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When will Abortion be Banned and Which State goes First?

11Bravo said:
lets see how many times praxas will repeat himself.

and go!
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My comments have been spot on. Your previous comments were personal attacks and red herrings.
 
Josie said:
Abortion will never be banned. Stop the hysteria.
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You are probably right. There will not be a total ban. Only convenience abortions will be criminal. Probably life and maybe health of the girl will still justify it.
 
joG said:
You are probably right. There will not be a total ban. Only convenience abortions will be criminal. Probably life and maybe health of the girl will still justify it.
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idk sounds like the states are ready to ban it completely
 
11Bravo said:
when abortion is banned, the us will save so much money
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How? The cost to raise a child is far more than the cost of an abortion. You can argue morality into it, but it is undeniable that abortion costs far less than the cost of raising a child.
 
Josie said:
Abortion will never be banned. Stop the hysteria.
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As pointed out, all it will take is a state like Texas, Indiana or Kansas to pass an abortion ban and then have it go up to the SCOTUS. Depending on the wording of the law, Roe v. Wade could be effectively "overturned". I suspect it will be low priority over other things, but I wouldn't say "never" in regards to it happening.
 
11Bravo said:
are you gonna whine like this when abortion is banned
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Serious question.


How do you see abortion being banned at the national level? Overturning RvW doesn't do that.



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joG said:
It will wait till there is a new Justice in the Court.
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A new Justice on the court doesn't change the balance of power. Simply replacing Scalia replaces one conservative Justice with another.


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WorldWatcher said:
A new Justice on the court doesn't change the balance of power. Simply replacing Scalia replaces one conservative Justice with another.


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That is, what I meant. One new one will change the present balance, but we will need two for the former balance to go. As a matter of fact, I believe Scalia tought that Roe vs Wade was a wrong decision.
 
WorldWatcher said:
Serious question.


How do you see abortion being banned at the national level? Overturning RvW doesn't do that.



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according to sources, all 50 states would agree to ban when trump tells them.
 
11Bravo said:
according to sources, all 50 states would agree to ban when trump tells them.
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So Trump will tell the states to ban abortion? What reputable sources?


You mean personally?

He'll issue an executive order?

He will ask Congress to pass a federal law banning abortion?



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WorldWatcher said:
So Trump will tell the states to ban abortion? What reputable sources?


You mean personally?

He'll issue an executive order?

He will ask Congress to pass a federal law banning abortion?



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imo he will write it in the law that abortion is illegalized
 
11Bravo said:
imo he will write it in the law that abortion is illegalized
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First of all, government 101 - the President doesn't write law. Congress writes law.


So you are going with option #1 in which Congress writes a law banning abortion, imposing such a ban on States where it would remain legal?




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WorldWatcher said:
First of all, government 101 - the President doesn't write law. Congress writes law.


So you are going with option #1 in which Congress writes a law banning abortion, imposing such a ban on States where it would remain legal?



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imo the states should just illegalize it and the taxpayers save billions.
 
11Bravo said:
imo the states should just illegalize it and the taxpayers save billions.
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Wait, I thought you said Trump would make it illegal. Opps, then it changed to "he will write it into law" - which of course he can't do. Now it should be up to the states.


But if it's up to the States then abortion won't be banned. It will exist in states that permit it. That means a patchwork of law across the nation. Some will ban it in all cases. Some will make it readily available. Some will use progressive strictions along a tri-mester system where they are easily available in the 1st Trimester, medium in the 2nd, and difficult in the 3rd.


So are you for big Federal government or not? Should Roe be overturned and returned to the States do you support Federal imposition in this area on the other side?


11Bravo said:
are you gonna whine like this when abortion is banned
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WorldWatcher said:
Wait, I thought you said Trump would make it illegal. Opps, then it changed to "he will write it into law" - which of course he can't do. Now it should be up to the states.


But if it's up to the States then abortion won't be banned. It will exist in states that permit it. That means a patchwork of law across the nation. Some will ban it in all cases. Some will make it readily available. Some will use progressive strictions along a tri-mester system where they are easily available in the 1st Trimester, medium in the 2nd, and difficult in the 3rd.


So are you for big Federal government or not? Should Roe be overturned and returned to the States do you support Federal imposition in this area on the other side?


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imo a big federal government under trump is the solution to the abortion ban
 
11Bravo said:
imo a big federal government under trump is the solution to the abortion ban
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So you don't mind a big federal government under Trump and support a big federal government under Dem's when they have the White House.


Are you consistent or partisan?


(Disclaimer: I have no problem with RvW being overturned the the question returned to the States. But States should realize that banning abortions will cost Taxpayers billions in additional welfare costs, decreased tax revenue (more dependents means more deductions), and increases costs for schools and other services.)


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WorldWatcher said:
So you don't mind a big federal government under Trump and support a big federal government under Dem's when they have the White House.


Are you consistent or partisan?


(Disclaimer: I have no problem with RvW being overturned the the question returned to the States. But States should realize that banning abortions will cost Taxpayers billions in additional welfare costs, decreased tax revenue (more dependents means more deductions), and increases costs for schools and other services.)


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imo having the dems in the government is bad for the country. big republican government is healthy for society. then the states will overturn abortion.
 
11Bravo said:
imo having the dems in the government is bad for the country. big republican government is healthy for society. then the states will overturn abortion.
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Good to know you are for big government.


There is no guarantee that States will overturn abortion. Some will, some won't. Meaning abortion won't be banned in the United States. It will be available geographically.

And States should realize that banning abortions will cost Taxpayers billions in additional welfare costs, decreased tax revenue (more dependents means more deductions), and increases costs for schools and other services.



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WorldWatcher said:
Good to know you are for big government.


There is no guarantee that States will overturn abortion. Some will, some won't. Meaning abortion won't be banned in the United States. It will be available geographically.

And States should realize that banning abortions will cost Taxpayers billions in additional welfare costs, decreased tax revenue (more dependents means more deductions), and increases costs for schools and other services.



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trump could force the states to ban them. hes president.
 
11Bravo said:
trump could force the states to ban them. hes president.
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We go full circle now.


Please specify how Trump is going to do this.


Executive Order? Magic Wand?


(Government 101 - Not Congress, Trump. Trump t write laws Congress writes laws. Trumps rule is then to approve or veto. But he can't approve of a law until passed by Congress.)



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