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Mainstream media is the enemy... [W:47]

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Trump's Inauguration Speech...here's what mainstream media had to say as they covered it live...


CNN--"I think it's fair to say that this was one of the most radical inaugural speeches we've ever heard." MSNBC--"When he said AMERICA FIRST, it's not just the racial, or I should say, the Hitlerian background to it..." NBC--I have to say it was surprisingly divisive for an inaugural address. It wasn't the kind of inaugural address that was intended to bring this country together..." ABC--"It carries with it overtimes from the 1930s when an anti-Semitic movement saying we don't want to get involved in Europe's war, it's the Jews fault in Germany, ..."
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Mainstream media is an enemy of truth.

I don't have a link for this. Saw and heard the individuals in an aggregate clip on Fox News.

I cannot believe the lies. Your thoughts?


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Who is behind Corporate News? Owners, investors, Advertisers, Politically connected, and documented by the Church Senate Committee, 400 CIA agents/assets in 1977. Owners want to print what makes money. Investors want to print what makes money. Advertisers want positive exposure to the consumer mass. Politically connected want biased news favoring their political agenda. The CIA/gov't wants to control the news cycle giving positive light to wars, hegemony, banking control, regime change, demonizing alleged enemies, creating enemies by demonization, giving positive press to colluding politicians that support these positions, exagerating threats as a tool to expand power, and you can certainly deduce by logic many more covert uses by this group. Does that leave any doubt that the MSM is not our, the people's, ally? The MSM colluded to maximize the Intelligence Agency's Russia hacking/golden shower dossier to attempt to gain the upper hand on Trump. Their big front page headline should read, The Russian hacking/golden shower dossier is absolutely bogus. I haven't seen that headline on the MSM. The other front page headline should read, USA Intelligence Agencies caught promoting bogus news in MSM.
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I don't know about "the enemy" but they definitely have proven to be nothing more than biased liberal shills campaigning for the Dems.
 
MaggieD said:
Trump's Inauguration Speech...here's what mainstream media had to say as they covered it live...
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Good morning Maggie,

I have to say, in my viewing/listening to President Trump's inaugural address, I found his perspective to be a little dark and aggressive and not in keeping with the traditional aspirational themes of past Presidents. I certainly would not cast it in the light of racism or Nazism or some of the outlandish comments you've posted here, but I do agree with Jack Tapper's comment that it was the "most radical" at least that I have heard in my lifetime. That doesn't necessarily make it a bad speech but it is in keeping with an election and a candidate that are both like no other that I've witnessed.

I, from a distance, don't see America as the cripple Trump portrayed yesterday. Absolutely, there's lots to improve upon and trying to limit government's reach into our lives is a good place to start, but I don't for a minute believe America has reached the depths of despair he pictured nor do I believe for a minute that President Trump is somehow going to control gangs and drugs, etc. as he claimed capacity to accomplish.

As a warning shot and a vehicle for shaking up the elites and Washington, it was a good speech - as a vehicle to unite and build from strength and cooperation, not so much.
 
MaggieD said:
Trump's Inauguration Speech...here's what mainstream media had to say as they covered it live...




Mainstream media is an enemy of truth.

I don't have a link for this. Saw and heard the individuals in an aggregate clip on Fox News.

I cannot believe the lies. Your thoughts?


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It seems Hillary applied the right concept to the wrong group. Irredeemably deplorable applies to many in the MSM.

How about this one I just learned of this morning. Seem the media picked up a pool report from when President Trump was working in the oval office, and claimed it proved President Trump was a racist. Unfortunately, it only proved the media is full of scumbags.

#FakeNews: Media Falsely Reports Trump Removed MLK Bust From Oval Office


The news media did it again. Friday night the Internet was ablaze over a false spread report by White House reporters that President Donald Trump had removed a bust of the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., from the Oval Office that had been placed there by his predecessor President Barack Obama. The controversy was fueled by the reappearance in the Oval Office of the Winston Churchill bust removed by Obama.​

One problem. The MLK bust was still there. An aide to President Trump had to correct their lie:

Correction from a White House aide: the MLK bust is still there, unseen by pool. https://twitter.com/philipindc/status/822603029950173187 …​


Just more BS from the press that appears hell-bent on permanent irrelevance.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Good morning Maggie,
As a warning shot and a vehicle for shaking up the elites and Washington, it was a good speech - as a vehicle to unite and build from strength and cooperation, not so much.
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It may take awhile to understand Trump. I suspect that this is part of his negotiating method, stating a position but understanding that it is subject to change. Obvious inconsistencies might support that view. How does one think America First and promise to end Islamic terrorism which is primarily outside the US.
It will be interesting. Trump fired a salvo across the bow of Congressional Democrats and Republicans and can not easily fall back on taking the matter to the people when the majority did not vote for him and many violently oppose him.
Don't all leaders put their own country first? One would hope so, with the understanding that sometimes overseas activities help one's own country.
 
MaggieD said:
Mainstream media is an enemy of truth.

I don't have a link for this. Saw and heard the individuals in an aggregate clip on Fox News.

I cannot believe the lies. Your thoughts?
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Cute picture... but worthless post.
Fake news.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Good morning Maggie,

I have to say, in my viewing/listening to President Trump's inaugural address, I found his perspective to be a little dark and aggressive and not in keeping with the traditional aspirational themes of past Presidents. I certainly would not cast it in the light of racism or Nazism or some of the outlandish comments you've posted here, but I do agree with Jack Tapper's comment that it was the "most radical" at least that I have heard in my lifetime. That doesn't necessarily make it a bad speech but it is in keeping with an election and a candidate that are both like no other that I've witnessed.

I, from a distance, don't see America as the cripple Trump portrayed yesterday. Absolutely, there's lots to improve upon and trying to limit government's reach into our lives is a good place to start, but I don't for a minute believe America has reached the depths of despair he pictured nor do I believe for a minute that President Trump is somehow going to control gangs and drugs, etc. as he claimed capacity to accomplish.

As a warning shot and a vehicle for shaking up the elites and Washington, it was a good speech - as a vehicle to unite and build from strength and cooperation, not so much.
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A very fair analysis IMO. Very well said.
 
Eric7216 said:
It may take awhile to understand Trump. I suspect that this is part of his negotiating method, stating a position but understanding that it is subject to change. Obvious inconsistencies might support that view. How does one think America First and promise to end Islamic terrorism which is primarily outside the US.
It will be interesting. Trump fired a salvo across the bow of Congressional Democrats and Republicans and can not easily fall back on taking the matter to the people when the majority did not vote for him and many violently oppose him.
Don't all leaders put their own country first? One would hope so, with the understanding that sometimes overseas activities help one's own country.
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I agree with most of what you've said - I'd only caution that being President isn't the same as being a Dictator - Obama found that out the hard way and Trump may be served up the same lessons. If the behind the scenes Trump is different from the Trump presented to the cameras, those in the political trenches in both houses of Congress will pretty soon get their backs up and be less cooperative or less willing to bend a little when Trump wants something. Congress is not going to do his dirty work while he's out on TV and social media dissing them.

As for putting country first, no problem - that has consequences, however, as well as perceived benefits. We'll see how that works in practice. I remember fully that GW Bush, during the 2000 election campaign, spoke about America first and bringing American troops and focus back home and taking a more country first posture. That lasted about 8 months as the world came to America's shores and forced them to re-engage. Life has a nasty habit of getting in the way of best laid plans.
 
I wouldn't say MSM is the enemy. They are more dramatic than I would like them to be, but aside from that I don't see any major issues with them. The problem I have with demonizing MSM is that if we look to the thousands of news sources online we would find that many of them are even more extreme and less truthful than MSM. When a primary source for news becomes Breitbart or the Huffington Post reality is stretched in a drastically inaccurate way. That is much more dangerous in the long term than a few stupid comments in MSM.
 
I watched the whole darn affair, and I will get the transcript just to make sure I didn't miss anything important. For a long time now I thought this entire MSM bias was a hoax. Not anymore. What a shame to have them mislead their viewers like that. What a shame. Whats even worse is that way too many people take this bs for granted and swallow it without to looking for the truth. How can anyone be ok with being manipulated like that?
 
MaggieD said:
Mainstream media is an enemy of truth.
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Oh what the **** ever.

Even if that were 100% true and it isn't, Trump is liarmcspackypants, he constantly lied and made stuff up out of thin air.

Stop drinking the kool aid maggie, please for gods sake.

You're better than this.
 
MaggieD said:
Trump's Inauguration Speech...here's what mainstream media had to say as they covered it live...




Mainstream media is an enemy of truth.

I don't have a link for this. Saw and heard the individuals in an aggregate clip on Fox News.

I cannot believe the lies. Your thoughts?


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Is this poster deluded or what? Sounds like one of them trumptards. It's the job of the media to tell the people what is really happening, not what the president wants them to know or not know.
 
Glowpun said:
Is this poster deluded or what? Sounds like one of them trumptards. It's the job of the media to tell the people what is really happening, not what the president wants them to know or not know.
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It is their job to report the news. Not create it. What is a Trumptard and why are you calling me one?
 
MaggieD said:
It is their job to report the news. Not create it. What is a Trumptard and why are you calling me one?
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Yes, they should report it, but then again we know that not only is the MSM biased but so is FOX and countless other "news" stations. Trump attacked the media, do you really think they will give hugs and kisses in return. What does concern me is that we are now being programmed to think anything Not from a "trusted" news source is Fake News, it is one of those steps that lead to dark paths.
As for his Speech, have not even heard all of yet, some transcripts, sounded like the same old trump to me, talking to his fan base for the most part.
That said, he is off to a busy start, we shall see which will do the Nation good in the long term and those that will bite us on the arse for generations to come. Ball is in the right side of the court, they better not miss.
 
If mainstream media is the enemy, why is he cutting off funding (a relatively small but meaningful portion of funding) to, by far, the most balanced and reliable media outlet in the country? NPR gives, and has given, Trump completely fair coverage - I listen every day and they are extremely fair in their coverage of him - and he'd rather spend $30-40 billion on a wall to Mexico with recurring costs for maintenance and constant guarding than 1% of that amount to keep actual fair and balanced news fully funded. What kind of war with the media involves eliminating the good guys?
 
MaggieD said:
It is their job to report the news. Not create it. What is a Trumptard and why are you calling me one?
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I firmly oppose anything that ends in "tard" but I think he's calling you one because you appear to support every single thing and word that comes from Trump. You even told me that he should surround himself with people who made the most noise/trouble but were the most loyal - a completely contradictory statement - and then failed to respond to me when I pointed that out. If you support a policy with logic that makes no sense, it makes you look like you've completely stopped trying to think for yourself. Remember, I said "stopped," that's because, like most on this forum, I used to assume your posts would be worth reading. Now you're basically E-Spicer.
 
Bias in journalism can be a good thing if it is based on facts and truth.

Edward R. Murrow voiced his own controversial opinions on the air quite frequently.

For example, his takedown of McCarthy by facts alone was journalism at its finest, and probably saved many good people from McCarthy's wrath.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Good morning Maggie,

I have to say, in my viewing/listening to President Trump's inaugural address, I found his perspective to be a little dark and aggressive and not in keeping with the traditional aspirational themes of past Presidents. I certainly would not cast it in the light of racism or Nazism or some of the outlandish comments you've posted here, but I do agree with Jack Tapper's comment that it was the "most radical" at least that I have heard in my lifetime. That doesn't necessarily make it a bad speech but it is in keeping with an election and a candidate that are both like no other that I've witnessed.

I, from a distance, don't see America as the cripple Trump portrayed yesterday. Absolutely, there's lots to improve upon and trying to limit government's reach into our lives is a good place to start, but I don't for a minute believe America has reached the depths of despair he pictured nor do I believe for a minute that President Trump is somehow going to control gangs and drugs, etc. as he claimed capacity to accomplish.

As a warning shot and a vehicle for shaking up the elites and Washington, it was a good speech - as a vehicle to unite and build from strength and cooperation, not so much.
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This is a fair assessment.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Oh what the **** ever.

Even if that were 100% true and it isn't, Trump is liarmcspackypants, he constantly lied and made stuff up out of thin air.

Stop drinking the kool aid maggie, please for gods sake.

You're better than this.
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It's been rather disorienting to watch the change, hasn't it.

I don't even know what to say anymore, to be honest.
 
It is weird seeing people who get 99% of their news from Limbaugh, Breitbart, Drudge, Fox, etc. now complain daily about other news sources.

And no I'm not just talking about here. I know people I see almost daily, my father in-law for example. He now complains daily about the MSM, all the while sitting there daily watching Fox and listening to Limbaugh. And his 'complaints' about the MSM are almost word for word what I read here from other Trumpsters and read other places on-line. It's like they are all in 'sync'. lol

If it wasn't so scary it would be comical. It's going to be an all-out war by Trump and his people on the media. Trump has put some people who worked for the Con media in his inner circle, so expect a full war by Trump against the opposition media sources.

They are going to try and shout down any and all liberal, moderate, and opposition voices and media.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
It's been rather disorienting to watch the change, hasn't it.

I don't even know what to say anymore, to be honest.
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There is certainly plenty of kool-aid out there from all sides, some of it mixed up in a more concentrated fashion than others. The media is, and was during the entire election cycle, manufacturing and combining kool-aid on steroids.

That is fountain from which your side has decided to drink by the gallon loads. Many have now awoken to the fact.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
It is weird seeing people who get 99% of their news from Limbaugh, Breitbart, Drudge, Fox, etc. now complain daily about other news sources.

And no I'm not just talking about here. I know people I see almost daily, my father in-law for example. He now complains daily about the MSM, all the while sitting there daily watching Fox and listening to Limbaugh. And his 'complaints' about the MSM are almost word for word what I read here from other Trumpsters and read other places on-line. It's like they are all in 'sync'. lol

If it wasn't so scary it would be comical. It's going to be an all-out war by Trump and his people on the media. Trump has put some people who worked for the Con media in his inner circle, so expect a full war by Trump against the opposition media sources.

They are going to try and shout down any and all liberal, moderate, and opposition voices and media.
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...Especially when it's the same people who used to get that those people are crazy a year ago.

That's been the weird part for me. Watching people just... forget everything they know about basic reason and logic.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
It is weird seeing people who get 99% of their news from Limbaugh, Breitbart, Drudge, Fox, etc. now complain daily about other news sources.

And no I'm not just talking about here. I know people I see almost daily, my father in-law for example. He now complains daily about the MSM, all the while sitting there daily watching Fox and listening to Limbaugh. And his 'complaints' about the MSM are almost word for word what I read here from other Trumpsters and read other places on-line. It's like they are all in 'sync'. lol

If it wasn't so scary it would be comical. It's going to be an all-out war by Trump and his people on the media. Trump has put some people who worked for the Con media in his inner circle, so expect a full war by Trump against the opposition media sources.

They are going to try and shout down any and all liberal, moderate, and opposition voices and media.
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