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Thank God the Polls are Wrong

late said:
That's what a good con artist does.
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Like I said, it was less Trump conning people to vote for him than it was Clinton failing to bring out votes in key states. She under-performed Obama, and that was unacceptable. She deserved to lose.
 
calamity said:
Like I said, it was less Trump conning people to vote for him than it was Clinton failing to bring out votes in key states. She under-performed Obama, and that was unacceptable. She deserved to lose.
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I think it's difficult for any candidate who is a corrupt fraudulent liar to bring out votes in their favor. Considering this fact, I'd suggest Hillary wildly over performed, which says much about her voter base.
 
longview said:
Actually Trump is an unknown, Liberal and Conservative do not mean the same thing they did even 50 years ago.
I call myself conservative, but I am a fiscal conservative, Social issues really do not concern me,
unless they limit mine or others freedoms.
My concern is that the Government preform their basic requirements as inexpensively as possible.
As to this threads title, I agree, "Thank God to polls were wrong"
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The people in key states chose the unknown, high risk candidate who inspired hope; they rejected the candidate promising more of the same. Pretty clear: hope sells, more of the same and fear of the big bad Orange guy did not.
 
ocean515 said:
I think it's difficult for any candidate who is a corrupt fraudulent liar to bring out votes in their favor. Considering this fact, I'd suggest Hillary wildly over performed, which says much about her voter base.
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Obviously 59 million people didn't buy the RW meme. She wasn't a corrupt fraudulent liar. She was just an uninspiring establishment candidate with a bland personality.
 
calamity said:
The people in key states chose the unknown, high risk candidate who inspired hope; they rejected the candidate promising more of the same. Pretty clear: hope sells, more of the same and fear of the big bad Orange guy did not.
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Actually we do not know if Trump is high risk, but he does represent a chance at improvement.
 
calamity said:
Obviously 59 million people didn't buy the RW meme. She wasn't a corrupt fraudulent liar. She was just an uninspiring establishment candidate with a bland personality.
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LOL

In light of your comments against the overwhelming evidence, I think my comment about her voting base is even more prescient.
 
ocean515 said:
LOL

In light of your comments against the overwhelming evidence, I think my comment about her voting base is even more prescient.
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You can believe all the lies you want. I stick to provable facts. What you wrote is not provable; what I wrote is.
 
calamity said:
You can believe all the lies you want. I stick to provable facts. What you wrote is not provable; what I wrote is.
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No, what you wrote is pure delusion. Facts are apparently subjective to you.

It's not necessary to prove my observation further.
 
ocean515 said:
No, what you wrote is pure delusion. Facts are apparently subjective to you.

It's not necessary to prove my observation further.
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the only delusion is thinking Trump won by some sort of landslide or great uprising of the people. He squeaked out a victory, mostly because the Obama coalition either no longer cared or didn't much like the white chick.
 
calamity said:
the only delusion is thinking Trump won by some sort of landslide or great uprising of the people. He squeaked out a victory, mostly because the Obama coalition either no longer cared or didn't much like the white chick.
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Where did you pull "landslide" from anything anyone has written? Injecting words that don't exist again?

Uprising? Absolutely. It's really rather silly to try and sell that it wasn't.
 
ocean515 said:
Where did you pull "landslide" from anything anyone has written? Injecting words that don't exist again?

Uprising? Absolutely. It's really rather silly to try and sell that it wasn't.
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My mistake. I thought you were the guy who said Trump's victory was yuge.

You were this guy

ocean515 said:
I think it's difficult for any candidate who is a corrupt fraudulent liar to bring out votes in their favor. Considering this fact, I'd suggest Hillary wildly over performed, which says much about her voter base.
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There is no proof that Hillary is a "corrupt fraudulent liar."

But, there certainly is proof that she is

calamity said:
The people in key states chose the unknown, high risk candidate who inspired hope; they rejected the candidate promising more of the same. Pretty clear: hope sells, more of the same and fear of the big bad Orange guy did not.
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So, I stated a fact. You posted a RW meme.
 
calamity said:
My mistake. I thought you were the guy who said Trump's victory was yuge.

You were this guy



There is no proof that Hillary is a "corrupt fraudulent liar."

But, there certainly is proof that she is



So, I stated a fact. You posted a RW meme.
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RW meme?

Well I suppose if one chooses to ignore the mountain of evidence of collusion, fraud, and deception Hillary and her Campaign machine was proven to have conducted, you could make that claim.

If one chooses to ignore the inexcusable insults and despicable accusations Hillary and her Campaign Machine hurled at 10's of millions of voters, you could cling to such a claim.

I chose not to ignore these facts, so I'm unable to see it as anything other than a desperate act.
 
longview said:
Actually Trump is an unknown, Liberal and Conservative do not mean the same thing they did even 50 years ago.
I call myself conservative, but I am a fiscal conservative, Social issues really do not concern me,
unless they limit mine or others freedoms.
My concern is that the Government preform their basic requirements as inexpensively as possible.
As to this threads title, I agree, "Thank God to polls were wrong"
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Trump has a history of supporting more liberal positions.
 
calamity said:
I guess it would not surprise me that Trump supporters are keyboard warriors spamming online polls and answering the phone on the first ring when the ID says "Research," but that they are not about to get off their lazy asses to actually cast any votes that count.
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LOL, No wonder I am not seeing many crows in Ohio today :mrgreen:
 
Puigb said:
Trump has a history of supporting more liberal positions.
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I am ok with Social liberals, as long as by liberal they mean protective of everyone's freedoms.
When Liberals start to do things the limit personal freedom, they are just as dangerous as the religious right.
 
longview said:
I am ok with Social liberals, as long as by liberal they mean protective of everyone's freedoms.
When Liberals start to do things the limit personal freedom, they are just as dangerous as the religious right.
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Trump supported Gun Control only 4 years ago. Now since he's pretending to be a conservative, he says different.
 
Puigb said:
Trump supported Gun Control only 4 years ago. Now since he's pretending to be a conservative, he says different.
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Since Gun control is a constitutional issue, the answer will be in the type of Judges he appoints to the Supreme court.
 
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