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Sanders Supporters, Do You Sincerely Believe He Will Be the Nominee?

Will Sanders Win the Nomination? The Election?

  • Yes, I sincerely believe he will win the nomination.

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • No, I do not believe he will win the nomination.

    Votes: 10 52.6%

  • Yes, I believe he will win the nomination and the general.

    Votes: 5 26.3%

  • No, I believe he will win the nomination but not the general.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    19
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I'm just curious if supporters of Senator Sanders sincerely think he will win the nomination, or if their really just hoping he manages a vigorous campaign. Furthermore if you think he will win the nomination do you sincerely believe he will win the general election?

Please try and keep this limited to actual supporters of the senator. It's more useful that way. Thanks for answering.
 
I like Bernie. I hope he wins, and I think his views will ultimately get passed. The bottom 90 percent, are losing money due to inflation while billions are made in the top 1 percent. Just look at the math.
 
He has the public support to win the nomination. We'll see about whether or not he has the party support to win the nomination, but unfortunately, I doubt it.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
He has the public support to win the nomination. We'll see about whether or not he has the party support to win the nomination, but unfortunately, I doubt it.
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How do you think a lack of party support will affect him?
 
Whether he wins the nomination is a secondary issue, which is dependent upon many factors. The real question that should be asked is, do the American people support the same positions that Bernie Sanders holds? If so, if he doesn't become the nominee or later the Prez, we need to ask what is broken in our political system? Oh, I know:

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MTAtech said:
Whether he wins the nomination is a secondary issue, which is dependent upon many factors. The real question that should be asked is, do the American people support the same positions that Bernie Sanders holds? If so, if he doesn't become the nominee or later the Prez, we need to ask what is broken in our political system? Oh, I know:

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That's a really awful graph.
 
75% sure he wont. But hey, who knows. :shrug: Ill try to stay optimistic
 
Does the idea of Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump actually becoming a US President scare the **** out of anyone other than myself?
 
voted too fast. meant to vote for him to win the primary and the general.
 
He is doing a hell of a lot better than I ever thought he would. He has my vote but if I were placing a bet in Vegas I would still probably bet on Hillary, though not too much. It is a bet I would be happy to lose, though.
 
I do not think there is a chance in the world of Bernie becoming president...and I suspect the Dems will never give him the opportunity to run by allowing him the nomination.

We who advocate for a progressive agenda...owe him, though. We owe him big time!

He has raised the issues some of us want raised in a way that has not been seen in recent times.

He will not get the nod, but I acknowledge a debt to him for speaking out so forcefully in an area where so many cower.


And there will come a day where the issues he is championing today...will become the moral attitude and law of this land.
 
Sherman123 said:
How do you think a lack of party support will affect him?
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Regardless of popular support, if the party machine chooses another candidate, that candidate is going to get the nomination. My heart's on Sanders, but my money's on Clinton.
 
no, i don't believe that he will win either the nomination or the general.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
Regardless of popular support, if the party machine chooses another candidate, that candidate is going to get the nomination. My heart's on Sanders, but my money's on Clinton.
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Really? How would they effect this?
 
Sherman123 said:
I'm just curious if supporters of Senator Sanders sincerely think he will win the nomination, or if their really just hoping he manages a vigorous campaign. Furthermore if you think he will win the nomination do you sincerely believe he will win the general election?

Please try and keep this limited to actual supporters of the senator. It's more useful that way. Thanks for answering.
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I don't think even Sanders thinks he has an actual shot. If he really wanted to beat Clinton, he would have tied her emails to her duplicitousness, to the fact that the Left can't trust her to stick to her new-found progressive nature once in office.

Instead, he gave her a pass. Because that kind of attack from him, if kept up, could cripple her in the General and give the election to the Republican nominee. He isn't there to be President, he's there to force Hillary to shift left.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
Regardless of popular support, if the party machine chooses another candidate, that candidate is going to get the nomination. My heart's on Sanders, but my money's on Clinton.
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It is quite apparent that the media has chosen Hillary.
 
That's kind of tough to answer. I do think he could become President, but I think if he were to become President that the Republican party would do everything in their power to thwart him at every turn. They hate that he has support from citizens from both sides of the aisle and therefore they'd throw their little tantrums and we'd have another 4-8 years of nothing getting done. The only difference is I think Bernie would actually be a vocal President that would stand by his words, and that's where I believe Obama has fallen short.
 
Captain America said:
It is quite apparent that the media has chosen Hillary.
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lol Or at least CNN.

But yes, I agree. The media has gone above and beyond trying to hide Bernie. It's backfiring on them though. Every rally he has more and more people show up.
 
Our politics has gotten so bizarre that perhaps we need a wack-a-doo left v. wack-a-doo right election just to knock sense into us....

Say Sanders v. Carson

Once we have that absurd proposition maybe our electorate will finally grow up and demand leaders that know how to get things done through compromise.

The average elementary school playground has more adults in the room then there are in the average republican or democratic debate.
 
I will be voting for him, but if Hillary wins, like a lot of people I have spoken to, will have decide between voting for Hillary, a Republican, or for a third party candidate, or not at all.

Not saying that the Republicans will win, but there will be much more of a political price for snubbing Bernie Sanders, and that Hillary Clinton supporters should be careful where they tread - or Hillary won't get enough votes from progressives or independents to get elected President.
 
FlyingHippos said:
I will be voting for him, but if Hillary wins, like a lot of people I have spoken to, will have decide between voting for Hillary, a Republican, or for a third party candidate, or not at all.

Not saying that the Republicans will win, but there will be much more of a political price for snubbing Bernie Sanders, and that Hillary Clinton supporters should be careful where they tread - or Hillary won't get enough votes from progressives or independents to get elected President.
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I understand your feelings...and the emotional content.

But if Hillary Clinton is selected as the presidential nominee by the Democrats...that WILL NOT BE a snub of Bernie Sanders.

He will have lost...just as the 15 or so who are not the GOP nominee will have lost.

No snubbing involved.

If your vote matters...if your state is not solidly RED or BLUE...you should vote for the candidate who will keep the Republicans out of the White House and get the Democrats in. The presidency is not at stake. The Supreme Court is...and that is a much, much bigger prize.

I lament that the SCOTUS has become as politicized as it has...but it has...and the cost of losing it is much greater and longer lasting than losing the White House.
 
There is of course a definite possibility he will not win the nomination, but he's looking better than Obama did at around the same time, and he appears to be regaining momentum.

If he does win the nomination, I feel there is no question that he will win the General; in this all the data are is in his favour, contrary to the tired, rote, above all entirely baseless claims a seeming majority of pundits mindlessly parrot about his unelectability or risk vis a vis Clinton (claims that are unfortunately repeated all too often on this forum, likewise without basis); someone who polls at significantly lower margins vs every prominent Republican opponent than Bernie and is facing an as of yet unresolved FBI investigation.
 
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Korimyr the Rat said:
He has the public support to win the nomination. We'll see about whether or not he has the party support to win the nomination, but unfortunately, I doubt it.
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That's what primaries are all about.

If the "Democrat" electorate vote him successively as their preference in the primaries, then Bernie will win the nomination. It is not a question of "nationwide manipulation" by some Dem Committee in LaLaLand on the Potomac.

The candidate will be designated by those primary-campaign electors who go to the Dem Convention and vote their leader. Then the National Campaign begins.

And, whilst we are on the subject - note that the National Campaign of both parties is reckoned to could cost as much as $5B.

Now, isn't there some better way to spend that money - like on good schools with good teachers. Instead of the hoopla of a presidential campaign every four years?
 
About Social Democracy

A SOCIAL DEMOCRACY

You may know that Bernie is the only Senator who is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. What you may not know is the Congressional Progressive Promise.

The number of progressives (see the list here) in the HofR does not amount to more than about 15% of the total. Which is not miniscule, but neither is it dismissable.

If we want any real democratic change towards Progressive Values, it is in enlarging this caucus that we, the people, will be able to brinng it about. What are those values?

May I suggest, as much as America seems to confuse Socialism for Communism, that you inform yourself regarding Social Democracy - that is the major current of most countries that constitute the European Union.

At the heart of that concept is a notion called Social Justice.

Now contrast it with legal system prevalent in the US, based upon Common Law, called Civil Justice.

Now it's up to we, the people, to decide how to blend the two to obtain more fairness and equitability in the nation. Because, clearly, Civil Justice is orientated towards protecting individual property rights whereas Social Justice protects the collective rights in which we all share.

Both must be made to coexist in any well-functioning market-economy, or what results is the sort of societal unfairness that we see all too often in our collective "homeland" ...
 
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