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Ex-KKK leader David Duke says he plans to run for US Senate

I must be very easily confused. I thought this thread was about David Duke.

Until some guy (on YOUR side, mind you) mentioned Robert Byrd in a clumsy attempt to make a false equivalency. I answered him, and then you jumped into the conversation in comment #12...

...and now you're trying to get out of what you jumped into.

I guess that's par for the course.
 
Until some guy (on YOUR side, mind you) mentioned Robert Byrd in a clumsy attempt to make a false equivalency. I answered him, and then you jumped into the conversation in comment #12...

...and now you're trying to get out of what you jumped into.

I guess that's par for the course.

The first mention of Byrd was in Post #3. I'm just trying to be a good corporate citizen by guiding all of us back on task, and for that you go all snarky on me? I thought you were a gentleman.
 
Are you claiming that no politicians ever are truthful, or that they never, ever try to do the right thing?

Or is that only for the politicians who aren't on the side you personally like?

Hmm. An interesting statement about politicians being truthful from a staunch Hillary defender, if I recall.
I believe that statement then was 'all politicians lie, so what's the difference', or similar. Of course, I may have incorrect recollection.
 

What a racist douche, thinking those of European ancestry have any rights in this new century.

Everyone knows saying ALL LIVES MATTER is a racist slur.

Soon the PC Police will be editing out MLK's words when he said he envisioned ALL children playing together.

ALL children playing together & ALL lives matter = RACISM

We cannot tolerate HATE SPEECH like that in this new century.

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but seriously, friends, Every decade or so, the political pendulum swings one way then the other.

Until we can positively change the hearts of people, then it will continue to be this way.

Already in my life, I have seen great attitude changes on both sides, but we still have a long way to go.

The education will come when people start to realize MINORITIES are also capable of racism, hate, discrimination, and violence.

As long as we have those blinders on, we will NEVER see the true picture.

My buddies drywall business did not get a contract with the city of Vicksburg, MS because it was white owned. Contracts were only awarded to black owned businesses. Even Chinese and Hispanic businesses were thrown out the door. Only black were acceptable. Of course, nothing was written OFFICIALLY saying so, but that is the way it is.

Turns out later it was a blessing in disguise. The city was really, really slow to pay anyone.
 
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Louisiana hates Duke. He's a laughing stock around here. He probably won't get past the primary.

I'd say that this would be an instance of his getting his just deserts then.
 
The first mention of Byrd was in Post #3. I'm just trying to be a good corporate citizen by guiding all of us back on task, and for that you go all snarky on me? I thought you were a gentleman.

And that comment #3 was the exact one I referred to in my comment. I replied to his comment, and then you jumped in, and no you're trying to get out of it.

Really, guy, try to remember that maybe, just maybe the others here aren't stupid.
 
Hmm. An interesting statement about politicians being truthful from a staunch Hillary defender, if I recall.
I believe that statement then was 'all politicians lie, so what's the difference', or similar. Of course, I may have incorrect recollection.

Actually, yeah, if you're referring to Hillary's "what's the difference" line, your recollection is not only incorrect, but taken wildly out of context. If you were to take her quote in context, you'd see that no, it's not the callous, uncaring, arrogant quote that the Right wants you to believe.

That said, has Hillary been caught lying? Sure. Her lie about the sniper at the airport was really stupid. But you know what? MOST of the time, she doesn't appear to lie. MOST of the statistics she quotes are accurate and in context. Is she going to lie sometimes? Sure...and in all honesty, I know enough about diplomacy to know that I would never want a president who never lies - sometimes it's necessary...and sometimes it's crucial.

However, when it comes to Trump...comparing the lies of Hillary and Trump is really a molehill-to-mountain comparison. What would the Right have done if Hillary had said half the lies that Trump has so far? What would the Right have done if Hillary had been so insulting towards women ("she had blood coming out of her whatever"), towards those with disabilities, and even out-and-out threatened fellow candidates during a debate ("I'm going to spill the beans on your wife, Ted").

It's wrong to assume any politician lies all the time, and it's wrong to think that politicians never care about doing what they believe to be the right thing. However, while politicians (like the rest of us) do sometimes lie...some lie far, far more than the rest. And Trump's told more demonstrably false lies than any politician I've ever heard, with the exceptions of certain ones that I won't mention so I won't fall afoul of Godwin's rule.
 
And that comment #3 was the exact one I referred to in my comment. I replied to his comment, and then you jumped in, and no you're trying to get out of it.

Really, guy, try to remember that maybe, just maybe the others here aren't stupid.

OK, I'll play your silly little game.

ROBERT BYRD WAS A LOW LIFE SCUMSACK RACIST WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS TO HOLD ON TO HIS RACIST PRINCIPLES IN THE FACE OF SOCIO/POLITICAL CHANGE.

Don't be an idiot and ask me to prove it. I'll just ask you to prove me wrong.

Now, can we get back to David Duke. Say, you don't have the address of his Campaign Headquarters, do you? I want to make a contribution.
 
Where's the punch line?

We haven't heard that yet.

suttle political humor with a bite, coldjoint.

those that "say" they did not get it, but they did. They are just answering back in protest, and telling you it was not funny in their opinion.

See how human nature works. Most language is spoken between the lines.

They got it, but are just saying they did not think it was all that funny.

I am sure if you replaced Hillary with Trump they would have been rolling in the aisles.
 
Not surprising when you think about Trump's popularity. I can image many Trump supporters voting for Duke.

..and so the "Trump supporter" bashing begins, yet again.

Let's widen that divide between us all. Some feel it is not wide enough.

You voted for X, and I voted for Y, so therefore I am a racist pig, and the world should hate us and cast us into the eternal abyss.
 
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...and then there's Reaganomics: "If only we would cut the taxes on the rich, the poor would have more money!"

Glen, I reenlisted twice during that era. Once I made First Class, the money was good. Better than anything I could find on the outside. In fact, the only people that answered my resumes were worthless headhunters.
 
..and so the "Trump supporter" bashing begins, yet again.

Let's widen that divide between us all. Some feel it is not wide enough.

You voted for X, and I voted for Y, so therefore I am a racist pig, and the world should hate us and cast us into the eternal abyss.

David Duke is a racist as is Donald Trump. I'm damned glad to hear that the good people in Louisiana can't stand David Duke. To be honest, about 3 times a year I travel to Louisiana, but I don't talk race or David Duke for that matter.

Duke has become emboldened and encouraged by the racism that drips from Trump and his campaign. Trump is a bigot magnet. Racists and bigots have a national voice in Donald Trump. He encourages it. Racists, xenophobes and homophobes have rallied in support of Trump. If you want to vote to support that have at it.
 
Actually, yeah, if you're referring to Hillary's "what's the difference" line, your recollection is not only incorrect, but taken wildly out of context. If you were to take her quote in context, you'd see that no, it's not the callous, uncaring, arrogant quote that the Right wants you to believe.

That said, has Hillary been caught lying? Sure. Her lie about the sniper at the airport was really stupid. But you know what? MOST of the time, she doesn't appear to lie.

Well that's the trick isn't it? To lie and yet be believable in telling that lie? And yes, an art she's fully mastered. Jut think back as to how often she lied and repeated that there was never any classified emails in her email server. How often did she tell that whopper? 40, 50 times?

MOST of the statistics she quotes are accurate and in context. Is she going to lie sometimes? Sure...and in all honesty, I know enough about diplomacy to know that I would never want a president who never lies - sometimes it's necessary...and sometimes it's crucial.

You are equivocating a diplomatic 'white lie' which spare someone's feelings, or graciously skirt a situation with a self serving, self advancement lie. The two are very much different and not at all alike.

However, when it comes to Trump...comparing the lies of Hillary and Trump is really a molehill-to-mountain comparison. What would the Right have done if Hillary had said half the lies that Trump has so far? What would the Right have done if Hillary had been so insulting towards women ("she had blood coming out of her whatever"), towards those with disabilities, and even out-and-out threatened fellow candidates during a debate ("I'm going to spill the beans on your wife, Ted").

I think you're mixing up uncouth with lying here.

It's wrong to assume any politician lies all the time, and it's wrong to think that politicians never care about doing what they believe to be the right thing.

Lying all the time? Never cares about doing the right thing? I think that pretty well describes Hillary to a T. I think this the basis for her entire public (*cough* self) service career.

Next lie she's going to tell you is how much of the Clinton Foundation donations really do go to charities, when in fact, the vast majority goes to their own staff, admittedly who are doing charitable work. But you have to ask yourself why the Clinton Foundation adopted the obfuscating 'inverted' business model unique from all other charities? All the harder to track the money when you treat it like a slush fund.

However, while politicians (like the rest of us) do sometimes lie...some lie far, far more than the rest. And Trump's told more demonstrably false lies than any politician I've ever heard, with the exceptions of certain ones that I won't mention so I won't fall afoul of Godwin's rule.

I know, I know. This isn't our first rodeo on Hillary's honesty, you and I, and I have about as much chance as a snowball in hell of changing your mind.

But still. Why does she lie so much? When the straight truth would have cleared the air so much faster? What more is she hiding?
 
David Duke is a racist as is Donald Trump. I'm damned glad to hear that the good people in Louisiana can't stand David Duke. To be honest, about 3 times a year I travel to Louisiana, but I don't talk race or David Duke for that matter.

Duke has become emboldened and encouraged by the racism that drips from Trump and his campaign. Trump is a bigot magnet. Racists and bigots have a national voice in Donald Trump. He encourages it. Racists, xenophobes and homophobes have rallied in support of Trump. If you want to vote to support that have at it.

Yet, YOU are being even more RACIST and PREJUDICED than what you claim to despise.

YOU lump ALL Trump supporters in one great big basket with the label RACIST on its side.

Finding it hard to actually believe intelligent people with independent minds can have a different opinion than YOURS. Therefore YOU feel it is OK to insult them all.

Keep driving that wedge....pound it in as hard as you can. Go get a bigger hammer if you need to. We ALL loose with every swing of that hammer.

Of course, YOU can justify 100% of your hatred and vile attitude all you want. This makes YOU a winner...right?

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I see each and every insult to ANY choice a free American makes in their candidate as a verification of HATE.

DISAGREEMENT is healthy, but insults and hate for the other side will only drive that wedge between us even more.

As I said before....some people do not feel that wedge is deep and far away enough. Therefore they keep pounding away at our differences in candidate choice.

NEWS FLASH: After the election, regardless who wins, we will ALL still be here, and we will ALL still have to live together. Insulting your neighbors will not be very smart.

That inbred redneck illiterate person down the road may be the only one with a 21 inch chainsaw to cut up the tree that just crashed through your house. Get into an argument with him right now and tell him what a racist moron he is for being a " Trump supporter ". You can reap the benefits of your attitude later when he drives by your house and does not stop.

LESSON: You have NO IDEA whose help you might need one day. Therefore it is best to not insult strangers, but rather extend common respect to all you run into. They might be a Trump supporter with a LIFE STRAW when you are dying of thirst.

This is called "wisdom".
 
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David Duke is a racist as is Donald Trump. I'm damned glad to hear that the good people in Louisiana can't stand David Duke. To be honest, about 3 times a year I travel to Louisiana, but I don't talk race or David Duke for that matter.

Duke has become emboldened and encouraged by the racism that drips from Trump and his campaign. Trump is a bigot magnet. Racists and bigots have a national voice in Donald Trump. He encourages it. Racists, xenophobes and homophobes have rallied in support of Trump. If you want to vote to support that have at it.

Gosh, people, this thread is about DAVID DUKE. Why is it so hard to stay on the topic? By comparing him to Trump and by trying to draw equivalence between your heavily prejudiced and unproven notions about Trump, you are ignoring Duke. Are you that weak? Come in off the playground and give us a clearer picture of the target of this thread and convince us through logic why we should pick his democrat opponent.
 
Not surprising when you think about Trump's popularity. I can image many Trump supporters voting for Duke.
CNN reporter got rektfor pulling that silliness. Kinda funny to have it pointed out that racist groups support Obama...therefore...Obama must too be racist.



And thats the point where the CNN reported turned and ran like a bitch.
 
Lying all the time? Never cares about doing the right thing? I think that pretty well describes Hillary to a T. I think this the basis for her entire public (*cough* self) service career.

But still. Why does she lie so much? When the straight truth would have cleared the air so much faster? What more is she hiding?

Yeah, it does seem that you and I will never change the other's mind. But I will not accuse someone of lying unless I see proof that person's lying.

Does she lie more than Bush did? I don't think so.

Obama? He seems to have been pretty truthful, as far as presidents go (but he told a few of his own).

Bill Clinton? "I did not have sex with that woman." But if I had all the world's cameras taping me as I testified before Congress about whether I got a BJ, I'd lie my ass off too. There's an old French saying, "He who refuses to lie, does not love his wife." It wasn't meant for Bill's particular situation, but I'd say it applies there too anyway.

Bush 41? You know I earnestly hold him in high regard - he probably told a few, but I don't know what they were.

Reagan? "Welfare queen" - need I say more?

Carter? Seems to have been fairly truthful - but as we can see, truthfulness does not guarantee a good presidency.

Ford? I think he was a good and courageous individual - I've got nothing bad to say about him.

Nixon? Lied through his teeth. Committed what is by definition treason with his pre-election deals with the Vietnamese. Lied his ass off about Vietnam. And then there was Watergate But if he'd not done those things, he'd be seen as a very good president - opened up China, took us off the gold standard for the last time (after France had tried to manipulate our currency IIRC), and instituted the EPA. I specifically remember that it was during his presidency that our nation started to clean up and not leave so much trash along the sides of the road and in our public areas - and I give the credit to the public awareness campaign that I still remember today. If I thought Trump were half so courageous and gave half so much of a damn about the American people, I'd vote for him because of Nixon...but Trump's not a Nixon. To me, Nixon's one of the great tragic stories of our presidents - he really could have been one of the greats, but his own too-human failings ended his presidency too early, and forever ruined his reputation.

LBJ? Another who wasn't so truthful - let Nixon get away with treason even though he knew what Nixon did (!). Would have been considered great if not for Vietnam. Try getting today's seniors to let go of their Medicare - ain't gonna happen.

Kennedy? A womanizer like Clinton, but with a great deal more courage. An honest-to-goodness war hero.

Eisenhower? One of my personal favorites - and, interestingly enough, one of the most honest as far as I can tell.

For Truman and all the ones that came before, I don't have enough data to know their level of honesty.

But the point is, while we don't like people who lie, the fact that one lies doesn't mean that one would be a bad president. But one who lies so obviously, so disingenuously as Trump does...he couldn't hold a candle to any of the above, even Bush 43. Heck, concerning Dubya, as much of an epic disaster as his first term was, towards the end, he actually began standing up (and ignoring) Dick Cheney, and took the crucial first steps to keep the economy from completely melting down before the end of his second term. Bush 43 was not personally a bad guy...but I think he saw towards the end how he'd been used and abused by the Far Right for their own ends. And that's why he (and his dad) are not supporting the current GOP nominee one whit.

I guess what I'm getting to is that I do try to be objective about politicians in general and presidents in particular. Not a one of them was all bad, and none of them were all good; and that utter honesty was not a guarantee of a good or bad presidency. BUT each of them showed a level of character that I strongly, strongly doubt that a demagogue like Trump could ever hope to show. The guy has real issues...and I dare not trust him with the nuclear button. I live within two miles of a primary target of a nuclear strike - I can see the Navy's largest and most capable shipyard on the West Coast from where I live. If he were to pull the trigger, I and my family would die, and horribly so. I can't afford to trust the guy.
 
Glen, I reenlisted twice during that era. Once I made First Class, the money was good. Better than anything I could find on the outside. In fact, the only people that answered my resumes were worthless headhunters.

Yeah, I remember how much better the money was once we in the military started getting paid properly - I'll never argue with you on that. In fact, that's one of the things I'll always love Reagan for...because despite all the incredible long-lasting damage he did and is still doing to our economy (we're still in trickle-down Reaganomics today), he made us proud of being Americans once more, and greatly raised the morale of the military (with a bit of help from Hollywood, you must admit). He made it cool once more to serve our nation. What kind of price can you put on that? What's more, he won the Cold War - quite literally the most dangerous time in all recorded human history - without it turning hot. The importance of that achievement cannot be understated.

But he was far from perfect. He did a great deal that damaged our nation and our economy...but at the same time, he not only brought our military back, but also won the Cold War. If only he had not instituted Reaganomics and encouraged the racists (yes, he did), I would gladly say he was our fourth-best president behind Lincoln and Washington and FDR...and perhaps better than FDR. But the damage he did knocks him down a few pegs.

I hope you see that I really am trying to be objective.
 
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