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Numbers don't lie ...Election was stolen[W: 91,168]

Re: Numbers don't lie ...Election was stolen

Whats the point her?
That if I vote for a Democrat for president I MUST vote across party lines and vote democrat for everything else?
what - say what?

Flips that concept the middle finger.

What you're apparently flipping out over is that people don't' vote along party lines - I mean thank god - we actually have people who are informed at those booths. I love it!
 
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driftervii said:
....if your sure there was no fraud ...then why do care if people like me want an investigation
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I dont think anyone does, go ahead, knock yourself out & investigate. I think all people are saying is you really need something more than this to convince them to invest their time & money in an investigation.

Think about it carefully. What do you actually have? Some people voted for one party & then didnt vote, or voted differently in another ballot (as has happened before)?

Its not really proof of anything.

If you want to keep digging then its a free country, dig away, but dont be upset if others dont want to dig with you.
 
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driftervii said:
voting irregularities are the first step to investigation ....the numbers i present are correct .....what you call speculation i call the truth ....something isnt right about this election .....and i want some investigation into it.....if there was no fraud so be it ....if your sure there was no fraud ...then why do care if people like me want an investigation
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Bwaahaahaa!

Please feel free to get with Congress about that investigation, and let us know when it starts!

Bwaahaahaa.
 
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Paul Austin said:
I dont think anyone does, go ahead, knock yourself out & investigate. I think all people are saying is you really need something more than this to convince them to invest their time & money in an investigation.

Think about it carefully. What do you actually have? Some people voted for one party & then didnt vote, or voted differently in another ballot (as has happened before)?

Its not really proof of anything.

If you want to keep digging then its a free country, dig away, but dont be upset if others dont want to dig with you.
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I don't think he ever asked anyone to dig with him. He's making an observation and feels it should be looked into. What he observed are numbers that have not followed history, making for suspicion of voter fraud. And you say "think about it carefully" I think he is, but you on the other hand are speculating.
 
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Zyphlin said:
At best, and assuming the individual did the research to claim this has "NEVER HAPPENED" as if that's fact, it "proves" that the public acted differently in this election than in the past.
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The 2012 election had many 'firsts'.


The biggest one was one that a lot of folks wanted to hang their hats on....

First president since Great Depression to be reelected with unemployment rate above 7.2 percent: Barack Obama


2012 election was chock-full of firsts
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Born Free said:
I don't think he ever asked anyone to dig with him. He's making an observation and feels it should be looked into. What he observed are numbers that have not followed history, making for suspicion of voter fraud. And you say "think about it carefully" I think he is, but you on the other hand are speculating.
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So what, observation that some people didn't vote straight line Republican is evidence of fraud? Really?
 
Re: Numbers don't lie ...Election was stolen

I don't believe the election was "stolen" but Obama certainly wasn't hurt by receiving 100% of the vote in 59 PA voting divisions guarded by Black Panthers
 
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driftervii said:
and you think there are 300,000 other people that voted like you ? be honest
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Only if there are 300,000 sane people who don't vote vote straight party line.
 
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Bronson said:
I don't believe the election was "stolen" but Obama certainly wasn't hurt by receiving 100% of the vote in 59 PA voting divisions guarded by Black Panthers
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Were any of them guarded by the Black Panthers or are you taking two things that happened and deciding they must be connected?

Was the Obamaphone lady there too?
 
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Born Free said:
I don't think he ever asked anyone to dig with him.
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If you actually read what he says he's asking why no one is with him, its quite clear & I answered why.

He's making an observation and feels it should be looked into.
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I know & acknowledge that in my post

What he observed are numbers that have not followed history, making for suspicion of voter fraud.
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See my previous posts

And you say "think about it carefully" I think he is, but you on the other hand are speculating.
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I am speculating, yes, everyone in this thread is, afterall no one knows the thoughts & views of everyone who voted, however Im also relaying an opinion based on thinking about things, in an effort to explain to him why others are not as enthusiastic as he is.

Was there anything actually wrong in my post?
 
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If those states were anything like mine there were Republicans running for every office on the ballot but often no Democrats.....in most of the cases the only opposition was a Libertarian rep. So yes.....based on this there could have been more Republican votes for a state rep than for Obama.
 
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rocket88 said:
Were any of them guarded by the Black Panthers or are you taking two things that happened and deciding they must be connected?

Was the Obamaphone lady there too?
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I sense some mad on your part

All I'm saying is it certainly didn't hurt Obama that his supporters engaged in voter fraud and voter suppression

Do you disagree? If voter fraud happens in a forest does nobody see and it doesn't matter or something? What are you whining about.
 
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Bronson said:
I sense some mad on your part

All I'm saying is it certainly didn't hurt Obama that his supporters engaged in voter fraud and voter suppression

Do you disagree? If voter fraud happens in a forest does nobody see and it doesn't matter or something? What are you whining about.
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Romney got his candy ass handed to him despite the the most wide spread, concerted voter suppression effort by Republicans since the Civil Rights Act. That's all I'm saying. :shrug:
 
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*move this thread to conspiracy section of forum*

this kind of crap is funny - but sad -no, it's funny - yep - funny :lamo:lamo
 
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Bronson said:
I sense some mad on your part

All I'm saying is it certainly didn't hurt Obama that his supporters engaged in voter fraud and voter suppression

Do you disagree? If voter fraud happens in a forest does nobody see and it doesn't matter or something? What are you whining about.
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You said there were 59 precincts in PA guarded by the Black Panthers. We've seen the video of them at a polling place, but no evidence that they were at any of these precincts a week ago.
 
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straykatz said:
If those states were anything like mine there were Republicans running for every office on the ballot but often no Democrats.....in most of the cases the only opposition was a Libertarian rep. So yes.....based on this there could have been more Republican votes for a state rep than for Obama.
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No, that's not possible...it's got to be fraud. That's the only possible explanation.
 
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AdamT said:
Romney got his candy ass handed to him despite the the most wide spread, concerted voter suppression effort by Republicans since the Civil Rights Act. That's all I'm saying. :shrug:
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So did the voter fraud and suppression by Obama Supporters help or hurt Obama's cause for re-election

I missed that part when you were gloating and I didn't care
 
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rocket88 said:
You said there were 59 precincts in PA guarded by the Black Panthers. We've seen the video of them at a polling place, but no evidence that they were at any of these precincts a week ago.
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I'll ask the same question to you that I asked AdamT

Did voter fraud and suppression help or hurt Obama's chances at re-election? Especially in areas where he received 100% of the vote and thugs were blocking polling stations like this:

"Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly - YouTube

Oh and don't forget

AG Holder Drops Charges On Black Panthers - YouTube
 
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my numbers are correct ..... and it should be enough to investigate ...maybe check the voting machines .....nothing funny about stealing elections
 
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I say we investigate. While we are at it, we can also investigate the GOP attempts at voter suppression. Oh, and also the GOP attempts at voter registration fraud. Or are you just upset that the Democrats won in a game where both sides weren't playing fairly?

driftervii said:
so far i have done the numbers for 4 of the swing states ...and the results are shocking.....

NEVER BEFORE HAS THERE BEEN MORE VOTES FOR CONGRESSMEN
THAN FOR PRESIDENT IN ANY PREVIOUS ELECTION....EVER!!!!


Florida vote tally for congressional seats by party

(there were 2 uncontested districts, these vote totals will be added to the final tally)

republican 3,805,855

democrat 3,494,131

Florida votes for president in the same districts

Romney 3,502,413

Obama 3,532,998

Are we supposed to believe that 303,442 people voted for

republican congressmen and not Mitt Romney?

so lets say that these people did vote for Romney

(which i find very likely),the final tally is as follows

Romney 4,465,616

Obama 4,236,032

` ROMNEY WINS !!!!!!

This is more proof ...stolen election


I used the vote Tally Data from Politico.com

on November 11, 2012

PENNSYLVANIA FRAUD UPDATE
NEVER BEFORE HAS THERE BEEN MORE VOTES FOR CONGRESSMEN
THAN FOR PRESIDENT IN ANY PREVIOUS ELECTION....EVER!!!

Pennsylvania vote tally for congressional seats by party



republican 2,850,537

democrat 2,722,560

Pennsylvania votes for president

Romney 2,619,583

Obama 2,907,448

Are we supposed to believe that 230,954 people voted for

republican congressmen and not Mitt Romney?




This is more proof ...stolen election


I used the vote Tally Data from Politico.com

on November 13, 2012


NEVER BEFORE HAS THERE BEEN MORE VOTES FOR CONGRESSMEN
THAN FOR PRESIDENT IN ANY PREVIOUS ELECTIONS....EVER!!!!


OHIO vote tally for congressional seats by party

(there were two uncontested districts)

republican 2,315,250

democrat 2,065,841

OHIO votes for president in the same districts

Romney 2,226,274

Obama 2,184,070

Are we supposed to believe that 88,976 people voted for

republican congressmen and not Mitt Romney?



This is more proof ...stolen election


I used the vote Tally Data from Politico.com

on November 11, 2012


IN PREVIOUS ELECTIONS THERE HAS NEVER BEEN MORE VOTES
FOR CONGRESSMEN THAN FOR PRESIDENT ......EVER


Virginia vote tally for congressional seats by party


republican 1,833,934

democrat 1,736,164

Virginia votes for president

Romney 1,789,618

Obama 1,905,528

Are we supposed to believe that 44,316 people voted for

republican congressmen and not Mitt Romney?

so lets say that these votes were switched through electronic

voter fraud ...thats a 88,632 vote swing ...Add in the absentee military vote and it is definitely enough to

warrant investigation and Recount..i have no doubt Virginia

should be a Romney win.....
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Bronson said:
I don't believe the election was "stolen" but Obama certainly wasn't hurt by receiving 100% of the vote in 59 PA voting divisions guarded by Black Panthers
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Well - while I'd like for them to just check and make sure that's not fishy (I don't think it is though given the % of democrats in the area) . . . that was about 19K votes - Obama took PA 2.9Million to 2.6Million . . . 19K wouldn't have made the difference. . . . 300K would have - There are 12M people living in PA and only 5.2M voted. Less than 50%.
 
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My my, how many years of "2000 was stolen" did we have to endure, because Al Gore tried to have certain districts favorable to him recounted, absentee military ballot counts suppressed before the Supreme Court said you cannnot apply election law unevenly? The Dems turned that Florida election into a fiasco.
 
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Bronson said:
Did voter fraud and suppression help or hurt Obama's chances at re-election?

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When Democrats did it, it helped, when Republicans did it, it hurt.

Probably not what you want to hear, but there it is.
 
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driftervii said:
Are we supposed to believe that 303,442 people voted for republican congressmen and not Mitt Romney?
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I voted for a Republican congressmen but not for Romney. I don't consider myself to be all that unusual.

You say numbers don't lie, but you seem to be arguing that since you find them "unlikely," they must be wrong ... that doesn't make much sense.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Well - while I'd like for them to just check and make sure that's not fishy (I don't think it is though given the % of democrats in the area) . . . that was about 19K votes - Obama took PA 2.9Million to 2.6Million . . . 19K wouldn't have made the difference. . . . 300K would have - There are 12M people living in PA and only 5.2M voted. Less than 50%.
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100% in 59 voting district

That fraud exists in a vacuum?
 
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