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Newsweek Has A Very Pointed Post-Election Message For The GOP

head of joaquin said:
Yeah, so let's avoid enslaving 5 million whites and killing, torturing and raping them for several centuries, and after that imposig Jim Crow for another century.

Unfortunately America did do that to blacks. Is it your position that doesn't matter?
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I will answer that question when you answer mine.

"So you don't think that whites can't be discriminated against? That other races can't be racist towards whites?"
 
Kal'Stang said:
Two wrongs do not make a right.

Now...want to actually answer my question? Or do you want to keep bringing up irrelevant things that have absolutely nothing to do with my question?
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So you're comparing centuries of slavery and Jim Crow, massive theft, rape, and torture with affirmative action?

This is why nobody but conservatives take conservatives seriously.
 
head of joaquin said:
So you're comparing centuries of slavery and Jim Crow, massive theft, rape, and torture with affirmative action?

This is why nobody but conservatives take conservatives seriously.
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He wants to be persecuted. Persecution would make him feel justified.
 
i voted for the president, but Newsweek has destroyed any credibility that it ever had. sorry to see it. no publication or network should sell its soul for ratings.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I will answer that question when you answer mine.

"So you don't think that whites can't be discriminated against? That other races can't be racist towards whites?"
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Racism is an ideology of superiority created to excuse slavery and colonization. It has nothing to do with affirmative action. So the answer is nope. Rich white people created the discourse of racism. They own it.

I think you're confusing racism (an ideology) with bigotry. Anybody can be a bigot (not liking other races and ethnic groups) Bigotry isn't racism, just an ugly personal belief.

Finally you seem to be equating affirmative action with racism, which is so bizarre, I'll just let you explain your weirdness.
 
Helix said:
i voted for the president, but Newsweek has destroyed any credibility that it ever had. sorry to see it. no publication or network should sell its soul for ratings.
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if the alternative if going off the air due to a lack of ad revenue? that's a lot of unemployed people, hard to blame them for grandstanding.
 
head of joaquin said:
No, this is just a ugly conservative meme. 5 million blacks were enslaved for centuries, about 15 million were killed during the Atlantic passage. After the Civil War, a century of Jim Crow dispossessed the blacks in the US, all the benefit of whites.

Stop pretending this doesn't matter or that a few indentured servants who where white means it was blatant genocidal racism.
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Now this is just hilarious. Here you are trying to use history to back you up but when it is pointed out to you that whites were once slaves also you just try and dismiss it.

Why am I not surprised?
 
Kal'Stang said:
Now this is just hilarious. Here you are trying to use history to back you up but when it is pointed out to you that whites were once slaves also you just try and dismiss it.

Why am I not surprised?
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Psssst: noboby believes your neoconfederate memes but you and other conservatives. Indentured servitude wasn't plantation slavery.

But no point in arguing, you've drunk the racist koolaid.

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head of joaquin said:
Psssst: noboby believes your neoconfederate memes but you and other conservatives. Indentured servitude wasn't plantation slavery.

But no point in arguing, you've drunk the racist koolaid.

kool-aid-man.jpg
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are you denying that whites, and every other color, had enslaved eachother for thousands of years before the 'modern' black slave trade of a few centuries prior to now ever started?
 
roflpublican said:
are you denying that whites, and every other color, had enslaved eachother for thousands of years before the 'modern' black slave trade of a few centuries prior to now ever started?
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I'm denying any of that is relevant to plantation slavery, which is our history and which involved tens of millions of blacks who were raped, tortured, killed and dispossessed, followed by a century of theft and oppression and lynching via Jim Crow.

Did that happen anywhere else among white folk? Nope. Planation slavery was the creation of the diabolical southern slave owners, as was Jim Crow.

Whether the Greeks had a few Thracian house slaves has nothing to do with that.
 
head of joaquin said:
I'm denying any of that is relevant to plantation slavery, which is our history and which involved tens of millions of blacks who were raped, tortured, killed and dispossessed, followed by a century of theft and oppression and lynching via Jim Crow.

Did that happen anywhere else among white folk? Nope. Planation slavery was the creation of the diabolical souther slave owners.
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no plantation slavery had been used for thousands of years, look up how the romans manned their gigantic aristocratic farms in the 1st century BC.
 
roflpublican said:
if the alternative if going off the air due to a lack of ad revenue? that's a lot of unemployed people, hard to blame them for grandstanding.
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honestly, in my opinion, they should have rebranded before becoming a purely partisan rag. Newsweek used to mean something.
 
head of joaquin said:
Racism is an ideology of superiority created to excuse slavery and colonization. It has nothing to do with affirmative action. So the answer is nope. Rich white people created the discourse of racism. They own it.

I think you're confusing racism (an ideology) with bigotry. Anybody can be a bigot (not liking other races and ethnic groups) Bigotry isn't racism, just an ugly personal belief.

Finally you seem to be equating affirmative action with racism, which is so bizarre, I'll just let you explain your weirdness.
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I've not once mentioned or even hinted at affirmative action. And racisism encompasses far more than a supiority complex. That should be evident in these videos... for just one example...





Funny how this guy took such offense at something that was a scientific term. A term that isn't even negative in any way shape or form. And even he called it racist. There was no show of supiority when that white guy said "black hole". Yet he was still considered a racist for saying it.

Now to answer your question,

Yes what happened matters. History always matters. But as I said before you should learn from history, learn from the mistakes made, not live it. You do not have to perpetrate hatred and negativity across generations of peoples just because of something that happened over a century ago or more.
 
head of joaquin said:
I'm denying any of that is relevant to plantation slavery, which is our history and which involved tens of millions of blacks who were raped, tortured, killed and dispossessed, followed by a century of theft and oppression and lynching via Jim Crow.

Did that happen anywhere else among white folk? Nope. Planation slavery was the creation of the diabolical southern slave owners, as was Jim Crow.

Whether the Greeks had a few Thracian house slaves has nothing to do with that.
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And just for my edification of which party were these ‘diabolical southern slave owners’?
 
Helix said:
honestly, in my opinion, they should have rebranded before becoming a purely partisan rag. Newsweek used to mean something.
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LOL well good luck with that, the truth doesnt make good ratings.
 
roflpublican said:
no plantation slavery had been used for thousands of years, look up how the romans manned their gigantic aristocratic farms in the 1st century BC.
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Please dont interupt his pathetic, race-baiting, trolling posts with facts.
 
head of joaquin said:
Psssst: noboby believes your neoconfederate memes but you and other conservatives. Indentured servitude wasn't plantation slavery.

But no point in arguing, you've drunk the racist koolaid.

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1: Plantation slavery has been around for thousands of years.

2: I'm not a conservative. Indeed i've taken several tests that put me more on the liberal side than conservative.

3: Learn history before you try and dismiss it. Recent history has its roots ya know.
 
The cover is overly triumphalist, but the articles themselves are not beyond reasonable discussion.
 
roflpublican said:
LOL well good luck with that, the truth doesnt make good ratings.
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and good ratings isn't necessarily journalism. the pool is already polluted with fox and msnbc's fecal material. at some point, I'd rather not swim.
 
Helix said:
and good ratings isn't necessarily journalism. the pool is already polluted with fox and msnbc's fecal material. at some point, I'd rather not swim.
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LOL msnbc and fox. newsweek is still holding itself to a high standard of journalism, then. :lamo
 
head of joaquin said:
No, this is just a ugly conservative meme. 5 million blacks were enslaved for centuries, about 15 million were killed during the Atlantic passage. After the Civil War, a century of Jim Crow dispossessed the blacks in the US, all the benefit of whites.

Stop pretending this doesn't matter or that a few indentured servants who where white means it was blatant genocidal racism.
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Lots of whites died freeing blacks

if blacks had not been warring against each other in africa how the hell could white guys with single shot muskets and one thousandth the number of Africans manage to enslave 5 million people?
 
head of joaquin said:
Can whites be enslaved for several hundred years during our history, killed, tortured, raped, their culture destroyed, and then denied oppurtunities for 100 years under Jim Crow while some other race benefited from discrimination?

No, whites can't. That history has already been imposed on blacks by white. For you to pretend it doesn't matter shows why conservatism is intellectually bankrupt.
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White America comes from all over and has no identifiable culture, certainly not like the people of color have.. not that I am saying that the cultures they have are good, or bad for the people who do have them.
 
roflpublican said:
no plantation slavery had been used for thousands of years, look up how the romans manned their gigantic aristocratic farms in the 1st century BC.
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Romans had minor plantation slavery and most recieved education. The Romans had no ideology of racism so they didn't even claim to be racial superior to their thralls, just better at winning battles, where most slaves were obtained, not by raiding and destroying cultures. Many slaves won or purchased their freedom over time.

This simply had nothing to do with the torture chamber that was Southern plantation slavery and its ideology of racism. Blacks were the other -- a constant threat that had to be suppressed and destroyed. Read the ranting of George Mason (the guy who wrote the prototype of the Second Amendment for Virginia )-- there is nothing like the fear and loathing in Roman culture toward slaves.
 
UtahBill said:
White America comes from all over and has no identifiable culture, certainly not like the people of color have.. not that I am saying that the cultures they have are good, or bad for the people who do have them.
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Irrelevant to the issue And that is: several centuries of rape, torture and dispossesson of one race for the sole benefit of another. The accumulation of capital and education (and the deprivation of the same to blacks) adds up. It didn't go away with the end of de jure discrimination.

And that's the issue we face as a nation, whether we like it or not. The answer is difficult. But blacks understand the issue, as do most Democrats. And blacks now that conservatives are in deep denial about it. And that's why blacks vote Democrat, inter alia.
 
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