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This is Priceless

Build physical barriers around critical coastal cities and create a no flood insurance zone along coastal areas to put market pressure on people to back off the coast.
 
hurricanes sometimes happen in October, cold fronts happen often in October, a full moon happens roughly every 29 days, high tide happens every 12 hours.......put all four together at the same time and mix well you have a recipe for a good storm.......I'm sure it has happened before...probably even worse...nothing "man-made" about it, its called nature.
 
This was definitely caused by man.

Just like the last one that hit there was caused by prohibition and women's sufferage, and the one before that by too much dinosaur dung.
 
There's no mystery about what we do about it. We reduce GHG emissions and pressure nations like China to do the same.
 
I'm making a sign. It's raining and the wind is blowing and it's all because of "climate". Bush's fault.
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
I'm making a sign. It's raining and the wind is blowing and it's all because of "climate". Bush's fault.
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Nonsense.

Bush was only responsible for Hurricanes, and even then only because he hates black people (I know this because Kanye West said so).

Cheney is responsible for the rain and wind. It's all to make Halliburton profitable.
 
If only evolution worked faster.... :roll:
 
joko104 said:
Obama PROMISED if was elected the "oceans would stop rising." Its Obama's fault and still another broken promise of his.
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Actually he didn't, but this is expected....
 
joko104 said:
Obama PROMISED if was elected the "oceans would stop rising." Its Obama's fault and still another broken promise of his.
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He was too busy cutting the deficit in half and closing Gitmo to get around to that.
 
AdamT said:
If only evolution worked faster.... :roll:
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So you are all for evolution, natural selection, and the thinning of the herd then? Awesome to know. You are officially advocating for allowing the weakest of the weak...the crippled and dependent pets to die off so we dont have to waste resource caring for them.
 
If only the president had signed Kyoto...
 
VanceMack said:
So you are all for evolution, natural selection, and the thinning of the herd then? Awesome to know. You are officially advocating for allowing the weakest of the weak...the crippled and dependent pets to die off so we dont have to waste resource caring for them.
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I'm not advocating for evolution. That would be like advocating for gravity. It just is.
 
AdamT said:
I'm not advocating for evolution. That would be like advocating for gravity. It just is.
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You ARE advocating for it to hurry along its natural path, which means ending all those ridiculous social programs that prolong the inevitable and hinder the natural course of evolution. Well played.
 
VanceMack said:
You ARE advocating for it to hurry along its natural path, which means ending all those ridiculous social programs that prolong the inevitable and hinder the natural course of evolution. Well played.
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Ending social programs isn't going to make stupid people smarter.
 
VanceMack said:
So you are all for evolution, natural selection, and the thinning of the herd then? Awesome to know. You are officially advocating for allowing the weakest of the weak...the crippled and dependent pets to die off so we dont have to waste resource caring for them.
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Once again a Darwinian Evolution Guy. Sorry but no sensible evolutionary theorist even looks at Darwin any more. Adam is talking about MODERN evolutionary science. Your view is over 100 years behind the times. There are plenty of thread on it maybe you should read some. The anti evolutionary conservative mongers need to get a new script this one is outdated, stupid and boring.
 
fishinRod said:
hurricanes sometimes happen in October, cold fronts happen often in October, a full moon happens roughly every 29 days, high tide happens every 12 hours.......put all four together at the same time and mix well you have a recipe for a good storm.......I'm sure it has happened before...probably even worse...nothing "man-made" about it, its called nature.
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Hurricanes don't just "sometimes happen"... Hurricanes routinely happen all along the East Coast... and the Gulf Coast... The General Mid-Atlantic NYC Area gets hit with a major hurricane (usually catergory 2-3) every 60-80 years...

Katrina was in 2006... now this CATEGORY 1 hurricane occured in 2012... please name me another destructive hurricane in the 5 years in between...
 
Continuing on with the post that accidentally posted...

Here are the lists of the frequent hurricanes that hit this region

List of New York hurricanes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of New Jersey hurricanes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A lot has been made of the flooding in NJ by this recent storm... as if it was unprecidented...

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That picture is a hellicopter fly over of the damage in Cape May from Hurricane Gloria, from back in 1985...

Oops... guess Obama is going to have to change his meme to say Romney wants to take the weather back to the 1980s... wonder why the climate reverted... must be all those "green cars" on the road... :roll:



A hurricane... aimed at the NYC area could cause damage... who knew...


Oh, wait several people do...

This is an excellent article that puts it into perspective...

A History of Hurricanes in New York

"Statistically, the New York area is hit y one of these monster storms every 75 years or so; “it’s just a matter of time,” says Lee. After Hog Island [1893], the next big one came a little ahead of schedule, the “Long Island Express” of 1938, with 183-mile-per-hour winds. [Sandy was 90mph] At the time, Long Island wasn’t a densely populated suburban sprawl. The same hurricane today would cause incredible havoc. Hurricane Carol, a Category 3 storm that hit eastern Long Island and came ashore in Connecticut in 1954, mostly missed the city (even as it inundated downtown Providence, Rhode Island, under twelve feet of water).

Were another Long Island Express to barrel in, AIR Worldwide Corporation, an insurance-industry analyst, estimates $11.6 billion in New York losses alone. On AIR’s list of “the top ten worst places for an extreme hurricane to strike,” New York City is No. 2, behind only Miami. New Orleans is ranked fifth. "


So let's see...

1821 - (72 yrs) - 1893 - (45 yrs) - 1938 - (16 yrs) 1954 - (58 yrs) - 2012 (which was actually a category 1)...

If you count from the Long Island Express of 1938 to 2012 that's 74 years... statistically it's supposed to come once every 75 yrs...

Oh no... we must change the climate immediately... :roll:


BTW, after Hurricane Carol, New Bedford, MA built a sea wall as a barrier to hurricanes... New Bedford saw the 90 mph wins that other places did... but the sea wall they built held fine, and the inner harbor saw mild chop only... See what a little advanced preparation can do? It boggles the mind that boardwalks and ferris wheels along the water getting downed by a large hurrican is shocking to some people... it was stupid to have them there to begin with... NJ is a swamp... everyone knows that...
 
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