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CNN playing the race card

Samhain said:
Its called building a narrative. Its always hard to admit that you lost because of your own actions, so its nice to have a few scapegoats lined up just in case.
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What are Romney's excuses then?
The article references the first black Senator elected in 1870. His election along with other black politicians causes a backlash that resulted in 100 more years of discrimination and segregation.
There is a similar backlash now due to Obama's election. The proliferation of new voting laws, the depiction of Obama as foreign or "not one of us" mirror the Jim Crow laws and racial segregation of those times.

Some of the biggest controversies of the 2012 contest could have been ripped from the headlines of that late 19th-century era, they say: Debates erupt over voting rights restrictions and racial preferences, a new federal health care act divides the country, an economic crisis sparks a small government movement. And then there's a vocal minority accusing a national black political leader of not being a "legitimate" U.S. citizen.

All were major issues during Reconstruction, an attempt to bring the former Confederate states back into the national fold and create a new era of racial justice. And many of the same forces that destroyed Reconstruction may be converging again, some scholars and historians say.
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Fisher said:
The people black with coal dust after the end of a hard day's work will not be voting for Obama since he wants to kill their good-paying jobs since he cannot send them overseas to bolster GM's profits to pay the UAW more than they are worth. Just sayin.....
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You've graduated to the next level above drone. You have demonstrated the ability to mash different pieces of propaganda together to almost form a coherent idea. Keep working hard and soon you will almost be able to make sense, unfortunately your current achievement doesn't.
 
Verax said:
You've graduated to the next level above drone. You have demonstrated the ability to mash different pieces of propaganda together to almost form a coherent idea. Keep working hard and soon you will almost be able to make sense, unfortunately your current achievement doesn't.
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Perhaps it does not make sense to you, but you were not the target audience. "Libertarian"--I forget: is that code for post-modern confederate or college-educated redneck? I forget :)
 
rocket88 said:
I've noticed that too many people are literally unable to talk about race without it descending into "Who's more victimized."
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We have a duty to speak up to prevent more white people from becoming victims of racism.
 
Tucker Case said:
It's a phenomenal article, which is ironically being proven true by the very thread complaining about it.

In US history, there have only been 6 African-American Senators, and only 4 since reconstruction (3 of the 4 from the same state).

How pathetic is that?

Post-racial society my ass.
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who tried to run and had the qualifications to win
 
johnny_rebson said:
We have a duty to speak up to prevent more white people from becoming victims of racism.
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getting rid of affirmative action would help accomplish that
 
TurtleDude said:
getting rid of affirmative action would help accomplish that
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Yes, you're so victimized...if half of what you said about yourself is true, you haven't been victimized.
 
head of joaquin said:
The OP is a typical rightwing meme found on a hundred rightwing goon websites.
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You clearly don't know what a MEME is.

Here's how it works: take conservative racism, put it in a meme, project it on the "libral media", shake, and pretend you have an argument. The point is to detract from the fact that conservatives are the authors of the Wilie Horton ad, the welfare queen meme, and the rest of the dirty Southern Strategy politics used by every GOP presidential candidate since Nixon.
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So BASICALLY what you are saying is that it doesn't matter that I TOTALLY disagree with MANY of Obama's policies, I dislike how he has handled his presidency, and that I generally do not approve of his political actions? Because I live in the South...the only way to win my vote is to appeal to racism? Because of course...I live in the South. I must be racist. Do you understand how BACKWARDS that line of thought is? I want you to go ahead and let that sink in for a minute.

You want to cry foul at a small amount of idiots in the group making racial jokes for some political meme points. Do you REALLY want to get into the discussion of cheap shot politics...you know...with you being on the left? Have you ever turned on the Daily Show? Maybe Family Guy? Robin Williams? Bill Mahr? I can just keep going on with "edgy comedians" whose only real schtick is to be anti-republican. Come on man. Give it up.

The fact is there aren't Nazis in the street with swastikas. There are a few idiots on the internet. They aren't the shot for shot views of every republican voter. As a matter of fact: I am willing to bet my left and right....legs...that MOST Republicans (like most Democrats) don't actually care what color the President is. They just want to see the R next to his name (oh...also proven by the fact that we are running Romney...and not a better candidate this year...because he was the only one who had a prayer against Obama).

I don't know. I guess I can use your logic and say: "Romney is a Mormon. According to a few left wing meme's...all Liberals are anti-religion. All Liberals won't vote for Romney because he is a mormon."

Fortunately, educated people are on to you
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Tucker Case said:
Loaded question.ed Obviously in most states being white is considered a qualification for winning.
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what will be interesting for the Dems is watching the impending conflict between blacks who may see dem support as an entitlement versus growing numbers of hispanics who will argue they have more numbers
 
TurtleDude said:
what will be interesting for the Dems is watching the impending conflict between blacks who may see dem support as an entitlement versus growing numbers of hispanics who will argue they have more numbers
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What do the dems have to do with the issue I'm talking about?
 
iguanaman said:
What are Romney's excuses then?
The article references the first black Senator elected in 1870. His election along with other black politicians causes a backlash that resulted in 100 more years of discrimination and segregation.
There is a similar backlash now due to Obama's election. The proliferation of new voting laws, the depiction of Obama as foreign or "not one of us" mirror the Jim Crow laws and racial segregation of those times.
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What are we supposed to think when most of the Obama birth certificates we see have "Kenya" written at the top?

And why would we want a president who is anti-colonial like Obama is?
 
Krhazy said:
My definition of "playing a card" is ignoring an opponent's legitimate points in favor of attacking him for things others with similar characteristics have done in the past.

If you had bothered to read the entire article, you would have noticed that it presents arguments from both sides (including quotes from conservatives stating pretty much exactly what you wrote above). It also contains some polling data and interesting historical comparisons, whereas what you have posted is mostly vague whining. You saw a CNN piece about racism and immediately jumped to conclusions about "narrative building" because of pieces you've read in the past (after all, any piece on racism MUST have liberal propaganda and subtext attached to it. That's sarcasm, just so you know). That, to me, is the epitome of "playing a card."
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Balderdash! Tell me. What exactly is the point of bringing up this as newsworthy? Who benefits from bringing in racism? As WAS stated in this: "Republicans are afraid to even discuss race." It is hardly the point that this article discusses both sides of the issue. What if they did a story on the comparisons of Obama policies and Communism, but they still provide opposing arguments? Ulterior motive is important here in both questions. Both are brought up as a means of putting the idea in the minds. It doesn't NEED to MAKE the connection. Simply putting the thought into the mind will do. Mass hysteria works the same way. One argument would take the points and say Republicans are racists, while the other would make the assertion that Obama is a communist.

So now think about this. When the article is weighted to the side of making the connections, and not providing enough information/relevant information to detract from the premise that Republicans are bringing on a Reconstruction era racism/post reconstruction era racism....what do you think will happen? Certainly people will flock to the link, rather than the LESS interesting non link.

So let me ask you a simple question: Do you believe that Republicans are not voting for Obama based on the premise that he is black BEFORE and MORE OFTEN than because they dislike his policies?
 
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