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Why you should vote 3rd party or not at all if you actually dislike Obama and Romney.

jamesrage

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I figure that since there is some why you shouldn't vote for 3rd parties threads and blog I shouldn't make a why you should vote for a 3rd party thread.

Voting for the lesser of two evils does not make the democrats and republicans prop up better candidates during the next presidential election. Voting for lousy candidates does not magically make them change into better candidates. When you vote for a lousy candidate you care encouraging those parties to continue to pick ****ty candidates, you are encouraging more of the same. Why would they have any motivation to change if their no real threat of those parties losing to a 3rd party candidate? You wouldn't continue to eat at a restaurant whose food made you sick to your stomach when there is a better options like eating at another restaurant or cooking at home. So why vote for a candidate you despise. Is it because die hard party-tards have convinced you to vote for their guy out of fear of the other winning? Do you believe the party-tard lie that if you vote for a 3rd party candidate or not all then it is really a vote for the democrat or republican you don't like? If you truly dislike Obama and Romney then you should dislike the idea of either one of those guys winning. The only way the democrats and republicans are going to stop propping up lousy candidates is if you quit voting for lousy candidates.The only way a 3rd party candidate is going to have any chance on winning in the future is you actually vote for those 3rd party presidential candidates or simply not vote for democrat and republican presidential candidates.
 
Re: Why you should vote 3rd party or not at all if you actually dislike Obama and Rom

Voting for the lesser of two evils leaves you with evil.

Currently about half of all registered voters vote. The elections come down to 50/50 + noise. That means the leaders of our Republic are chosen by 1/4 of the voting population, a beatable percentage. Furthermore, support of third parties raises their profile and while for the time being the Republocrats have stacked the deck such that third parties cannot fairly compete; it doesn't necessarily mean that must always be the case. Through support, activism, and voting we can raise the profile of third parties and try to install the proper and necessary political competition. It is the only way to keep the Republic. Continuing to vote Republocrat is the surest way to lose the Republic.
 
Re: Why you should vote 3rd party or not at all if you actually dislike Obama and Rom

Ikari said:
Voting for the lesser of two evils leaves you with evil.
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Well, in reality refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils ALSO leaves you with evil.

You'd be more correct to say that "Voting for the lesser of two evils still is casting a vote with evil".

You could vote for Mickey Mouse this election...if you think Romney and Obama are both "evils" you're going to be left with "evil" in the white house.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Well, in reality refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils ALSO leaves you with evil.

You'd be more correct to say that "Voting for the lesser of two evils still is casting a vote with evil".

You could vote for Mickey Mouse this election...if you think Romney and Obama are both "evils" you're going to be left with "evil" in the white house.
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Not through my support. And my vote is better utilized by third parties than by the main party.
 
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Hey.

So the problem with voting 3rd party is not the concept of voting third party. In fact, in Europe, people vote 3rd party, 4th party and nth party because there are more than 1 main parties, in general.

The problem is not the decision of whom to vote, the problem is the way the voting system works. The US works with the FIRST PAST THE POST system of voting which inevitably leads to a 2 party system, minority rule, strategic voting and a flawed perception.

There are videos which explains such problems in a very good way. I prefer this guy to explain things because its very friendly.

 
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Ikari said:
Not through my support. And my vote is better utilized by third parties than by the main party.
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Not through your support...but your statement was regarding what it "leaves" us with.

If you believe that both of the two major parties are "evils" you're going to be "left" with evil in this election regardless of what you do. If you're voting based on the hope your vote won't "Leave" us with "evils", then you're setting yourself up for failure.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Not through your support...but your statement was regarding what it "leaves" us with.

If you believe that both of the two major parties are "evils" you're going to be "left" with evil in this election regardless of what you do. If you're voting based on the hope your vote won't "Leave" us with "evils", then you're setting yourself up for failure.
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I'm voting based on who I believe is the best candidate regardless of political affiliation.
 
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Ikari said:
I'm voting based on who I believe is the best candidate regardless of political affiliation.
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Good for you. Reasonable method of deciding how one wishes to vote.

I was responding to this statement.

Ikari said:
Voting for the lesser of two evils leaves you with evil.
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If a third party ever has some success they will just get their platform hijacked by one of the other parties and subsequently thrown into the trash pile once they have destroyed your third party. It is like when movie studios buy "independent studios" under a guise they are helping and then shut them down. Nobody likes competition.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Good for you. Reasonable method of deciding how one wishes to vote.

I was responding to this statement.
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It's a general statement against the "you're throwing your vote away if you do not vote for the R or D" arguments. If I view them both as bad, there is no way in good conscious I could cast a vote for them. And it's not throwing my vote away, my vote represents my sovereignty and power that I am placing in government, and I cannot give that away haphazardly, I must use it only for the candidate I feel is best for the job and who best reflects my own political identification. That's the only way the system works.
 
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Sometimes you have to relate to these things in the vernacular for clarity. I quote a recent outhouse scholar as having stated that the election is a tossup between " a douchebag and a turd sandwich." I vote third party and that pretty much sums up "why?" Don't you think?
 
Re: Why you should vote 3rd party or not at all if you actually dislike Obama and Rom

jamesrage said:
I figure that since there is some why you shouldn't vote for 3rd parties threads and blog I shouldn't make a why you should vote for a 3rd party thread.

Voting for the lesser of two evils does not make the democrats and republicans prop up better candidates during the next presidential election. Voting for lousy candidates does not magically make them change into better candidates. When you vote for a lousy candidate you care encouraging those parties to continue to pick ****ty candidates, you are encouraging more of the same. Why would they have any motivation to change if their no real threat of those parties losing to a 3rd party candidate? You wouldn't continue to eat at a restaurant whose food made you sick to your stomach when there is a better options like eating at another restaurant or cooking at home. So why vote for a candidate you despise. Is it because die hard party-tards have convinced you to vote for their guy out of fear of the other winning? Do you believe the party-tard lie that if you vote for a 3rd party candidate or not all then it is really a vote for the democrat or republican you don't like? If you truly dislike Obama and Romney then you should dislike the idea of either one of those guys winning. The only way the democrats and republicans are going to stop propping up lousy candidates is if you quit voting for lousy candidates.The only way a 3rd party candidate is going to have any chance on winning in the future is you actually vote for those 3rd party presidential candidates or simply not vote for democrat and republican presidential candidates.
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I agree with most, but you should always vote. Always. Heck, write in none of the above if that's your preference, but always vote. Otherwise there's no difference between you and the low information, low interest voter.
 
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Mithros said:
I agree with most, but you should always vote. Always. Heck, write in none of the above if that's your preference, but always vote. Otherwise there's no difference between you and the low information, low interest voter.
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I agree. Not voting is exactly what the Republocrats want disgruntled voters to do.
 
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Mithros said:
I agree with most, but you should always vote. Always. Heck, write in none of the above if that's your preference, but always vote. Otherwise there's no difference between you and the low information, low interest voter.
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My state doesn't allow that and it screws 3rd parties,so I will leave that part of the ballot blank and vote in the rest of the elections and ballot issues.
 
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