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Bad news for Team Romney

tres borrachos said:
Because not every citizen of this country would find him appealing. And not every citizen thinks as I do about Obama.
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Fair enough, thanks. I personally think the reason Romney doesn't appeal to more people is his ever-changing views over the years and seemingly wishy washy. Not saying Obama is necessarily better than Romney in that regard either.
 
TheNextEra said:
Actually I haven't seen the majority of Obama supporters on this board (or elsewhere) say he has NEVER done anything wrong.
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The response to any story about Obama's policies is 'but look what he inherited', or 'but this one other indicator is great!' ... it's ALWAYS excuse making. If you don't see it, it might have something to do with your lean.
 
AdamT said:
It's just math, peeps. If Romney is going to stand a chance he needs to improve his swing state numbers, but he isn't. Obama is starting to pull away.
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Except every media outlet is reporting the opposite of you. I think (even though most of them are biased) I'll believe them over a proven hack.
 
Arbo said:
The response to any story about Obama's policies is 'but look what he inherited', or 'but this one other indicator is great!' ... it's ALWAYS excuse making. If you don't see it, it might have something to do with your lean.
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Some people say that about ONE subject dealing with OBama, but I haven't seen someone say Obama has NEVER done anything wrong. Care you show that? I'm not the one claiming the MAJORITY have said something, you are.
 
Arbo said:
Except every media outlet is reporting the opposite of you. I think (even though most of them are biased) I'll believe them over a proven hack.
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I thought the media was all liberal bias and polls couldn't be trusted because they were in the bag for Obama? Or was that just when Romney was behind and now that he isn't they can be trusted again?
 
Boo Radley said:
Yes, numbers, but think for just a second, if it isn't race, and it is just numbers, then the numbers are American's don't favor Romney in large numbers, and that they don't think Obama is as bad as some try to paint him. If you say, yeah, but many are black, the only way to read that is the race card.
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Yes, if you're a paranoid Liberal, the only way to read my post is the race card. I agree with you.
 
TheNextEra said:
Some people say that about ONE subject dealing with OBama, but I haven't seen someone say Obama has NEVER done anything wrong. Care you show that? I'm not the one claiming the MAJORITY have said something, you are.
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Again, take a look at your own bias. I have seen those on the right talk about the 'bad' of Romney, but I haven't seen any of the normal partisan left EVER admit to Obama and his policies being anything but great.
 
TheNextEra said:
Fair enough, thanks. I personally think the reason Romney doesn't appeal to more people is his ever-changing views over the years and seemingly wishy washy. Not saying Obama is necessarily better than Romney in that regard either.
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That could be part of it. It could also be that some people don't like wealthy people. Or some people don't like Mormons. Or some people don't like guys from the Northeast. Or some people think "likeability" is more important than capacity to run a country. Or some people don't believe that private sector experience is more important than community organizing. That's why we have these elections. With over 300 million people, you're never going to get people to agree. For all the people who think "Jersey Shore" makes for great television, you'll find just as many who don't. For all the people who think NASCAR is interesting, you'll find just as many who don't. Neither side is right or wrong. It's what appeals to them.
 
Arbo said:
Again, take a look at your own bias. I have seen those on the right talk about the 'bad' of Romney, but I haven't seen any of the normal partisan left EVER admit to Obama and his policies being anything but great.
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My bias has nothing to do with it, I have never seen someone on this board say Obama has NEVER done anything wrong. You claim they have. I think it's YOUR bias getting in the way, not mine. If someone has said Obama has NEVER done anything wrong it shouldn't be hard to prove unless you are ASSUMING they think he has done no wrong. Which is it?
 
Man ... Tuesday cant come fast enough... this political bickering from both sides is getting old.
 
Of the 5 states you listed Adam, Florida and Virginia will go to Romney, and Michigan and Pennsylvania should go Obama... The only one in question is Ohio, and it's too close to call.

Six weeks ago Nevada, Colorado, Iowa and Wisconsin all looked as if they would go for Obama, and today all 4 of them are now toss ups, along with New Hampshire.

If you want to know how the states are leaning, just look at the actions of both campaigns... They tell you where things really stand.
 
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PeteEU said:
Man ... Tuesday cant come fast enough... this political bickering from both sides is getting old.
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I'm noticing that the rhetoric has been diminished here somewhat in the past week. I think people are hedging their bets so they don't have to eat their words next week.
 
AdamT said:
Well this can't be good if you're a Romney fan:

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Betting odds are as high as four to one for Obama....

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And time is running out.
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I have studied all these polls, and they are sampling democrats as if it is 2008. Under sampling Independents who very highly favor Romney. They have it D +8, while in reality it is R +2. Almost every single poll has been doing their sampling wrong, thus giving Obama the lead with the hope of discouraging the conservatives.

Oh btw Adam, you may want to remember that each Campaign goes by internal polls, not cheap shots by CBS and the NY times.
 
tres borrachos said:
I considered voting for Johnson at one point. I'm not going to now, because unfortunately he has no chance. I understand your vote however. I voted for Perot in 1992.

My preference at this point would actually have been Huntsman, even though I voted for Romney in my primary.
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Wow, so this is a confession that in one election period you will have voted twice for someone you didn't want to win simply because you want to say that you voted for who you thought would win.

Nice principles.
 
Boo Radley said:
Always nice to assume race means more than anything. That's why we've had president Jackson. His eight years were something to see.
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Don't forget the 8 years we had with President Rev Al Sharpton. Wait, do we still call him Reverand or just Da Prez?
 
poweRob said:
Wow, so this is a confession that in one election period you will have voted twice for someone you didn't want to win simply because you want to say that you voted for who you thought would win.

Nice principles.
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Where did I say I don't want Romney - or Perot for that matter - to win? Please find those posts. I'll wait.
 
If I awaken next Wednesday and Romney is not the winner, I will be very very surprised. I will also be very very elated.

One thing that could change the dynamics is the storm and its impact on the Florida vote. The strong response from the President and the praise from a republican governor like Christie may well impact some votes in the state that has more to lose from the weather than any other single state - FLORIDA. Some of the voters there just may be swayed by the strong Obama response and conclude rightfully that they need a man like that in the White House when it is Florida's turn in the barrel. And sooner or later it always is Florida's turn in the barrel.
 
Those poll samples are +8 and +9 D. Quite out of whack with reality.
 
tres borrachos said:
Where did I say I don't want Romney - or Perot for that matter - to win? Please find those posts. I'll wait.
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You said you preferred Huntsman but instead voted for Romney in the primary. Then you said you considered Johnson but won't because yout want to vote for Romney because he has a bigger chance to win. Do you not read your own posts or something?


tres borrachos said:
I considered voting for Johnson at one point. I'm not going to now, because unfortunately he has no chance. I understand your vote however. I voted for Perot in 1992.

My preference at this point would actually have been Huntsman, even though I voted for Romney in my primary.
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poweRob said:
You said you preferred Huntsman but instead voted for Romney in the primary. Then you said you considered Johnson but won't because yout want to vote for Romney because he has a bigger chance to win. Do you not read your own posts or something?
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That's great. So again, where did I say I don't want Romney to win? Where did I say I voted for Perot but didn't really want him to win?

I'll wait.
 
tres borrachos said:
That's great. So again, where did I say I don't want Romney to win? Where did I say I voted for Perot but didn't really want him to win?

I'll wait.
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I never claimed that you said that. So have fun with your straw man.

You said you preferred Huntsman over Romney and then eluded to preferring Johnson but won't vote for someone you don't think has a chance. That's what I said. I never said anything about Perot nor you not not wanting Romney.
 
poweRob said:
I never claimed that you said that. So have fun with your straw man.

You said you preferred Huntsman over Romney and then eluded to preferring Johnson but won't vote for someone you don't think has a chance. That's what I said. I never said anything about Perot nor you not not wanting Romney.
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Sure you did. Your words:

you will have voted twice for someone you didn't want to win

Your post #40.

Or did someone hack into your account and post that?
 
tres borrachos said:
Sure you did. Your words:

you will have voted twice for someone you didn't want to win

Your post #40.

Or did someone hack into your account and post that?
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Fair enough... I'll show you where you said it... yet AGAIN:

tres borrachos said:
My preference at this point would actually have been Huntsman, even though I voted for Romney in my primary.
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tres borrachos said:
I considered voting for Johnson at one point. I'm not going to now, because unfortunately he has no chance.
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Unless you want to try and do some word shuffling to differentiate how you prefer one person and then at the same time want someone else?
 
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