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What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamacare)

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I looked back through the threads and didn't see a similar topic. Obviously, if there was one, I missed.

I am curious to know what it means when states reject Obamacare funds? What is the reasoning behind doing it? What could it cause to happen as a result, if anything?
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

melons said:
Thank you. Sure hope that it works.
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I suspect that Obamacare will be repealed by Romney ASAP if he wins and replaced with something more like a federally subsidized Indiana plan or with people being able to buy into medicaid.
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

Did you mean Medicare or Medicaid? Real question. I'm trying to learn something.

Fisher said:
I suspect that Obamacare will be repealed by Romney ASAP if he wins and replaced with something more like a federally subsidized Indiana plan or with people being able to buy into medicaid.
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Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

Fisher said:
I suspect that Obamacare will be repealed by Romney ASAP if he wins and replaced with something more like a federally subsidized Indiana plan or with people being able to buy into medicaid.
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Romney said he would keep the key parts of ObamaCare.

This is the reason Romney should not have been the GOP nominee.

Remember, Mitt created RomneyCare.
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

johnny_rebson said:
Romney said he would keep the key parts of ObamaCare.

This is the reason Romney should not have been the GOP nominee.

Remember, Mitt created RomneyCare.
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Mitt doesn't write the law, Congress does, and the Tea Party will kill it.
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

Fisher said:
Mitt doesn't write the law, Congress does, and the Tea Party will kill it.
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1. Not all Republicans in Congress are controlled by the Tea Party.

2. We would need to take control of the Senate for this to happen. I don't think the projections for a Senate takeover look good.

3. I think Romney likes parts of ObamaCare, especially the parts that are in RomneyCare.
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

johnny_rebson said:
Romney said he would keep the key parts of ObamaCare.

This is the reason Romney should not have been the GOP nominee.

Remember, Mitt created RomneyCare.
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Actually, then-MA Senate President Robert Travaglini created the concept of "Romneycare". The plan itself was crafted by Sal DiMasi who was then-MA House Speaker & his committee. Romney signed it into law but vetoed many sections of the plan they gave him.
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

melons said:
I looked back through the threads and didn't see a similar topic. Obviously, if there was one, I missed.

I am curious to know what it means when states reject Obamacare funds? What is the reasoning behind doing it? What could it cause to happen as a result, if anything?
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One of the provisions in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act said that states had to offer Medicaid coverage to anyone up to 133% of the poverty line or lose all their Medicaid funding...but the federal government would pay for most of the cost of the expansion. PPACA provides that the federal government will provide the states with 100% of the funding for the expansion for the first few years, and 90% of the funding thereafter. Any state that opted not to participate in the expansion would lose all its Medicaid funding.

When the Supreme Court ruled on PPACA, they declared that it was unconstitutional to coerce the states like this by threatening their existing funding. As a result, states now can choose to opt out of the expansion without losing their Medicaid funding. If they do, their Medicaid coverage will be limited to those at whatever level of income the state currently allows (in most cases well below 133% of the poverty line).

In the long term, it's not really sustainable for states to opt out. Having the federal government pick up 100% of the cost of expansion for the first few years, and 90% of the cost thereafter, is simply too good a deal for even the most Obama-hating states to opt out of. There might be a few red states that hold out for a few years, but I think they'll all be on board by the end of the decade (assuming Obama is reelected and PPACA is implemented on schedule).
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

specklebang said:
Did you mean Medicare or Medicaid? Real question. I'm trying to learn something.
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Either one could work. I suspect it would be Medicaid though before it would be Medicare since the former already have people who move in and out of it more readily than the latter and medicaid is more of a state service funded by the feds which seems to be Romney's inclination.
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

I should add that states are not able to opt out of PPACA except for the Medicaid expansion. It's federal law, so all other provisions supersede state law.
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

Congress will do what Congress does--they will attach so many little changes to every popular sounding piece of legislation and gut the thing a clause at a time if they cannot get it done any other way. Don't forget Federal ID law was attached by 1 person to a defense spending bill and signed that would have cost the states $5B in an unfunded mandate that got kicked back and delayed in subsequent legislation.
 
Re: What does it mean that states are rejecting Affordable Health Care Act? (Obamaca

what does it mean when states reject obamacare? It means that a majority of americans see it for what it is and do not want it.
 
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