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269-269 EV Tie

Why not? He won didn't he? Are you saying we shouldn't adhere to the will of the people?
He didn't win and then was elected, winning was the act of being elected. He shouldn't have been elected because he shouldn't have won because he shouldn't have made it past the primaries because The People should be smarter than that.
 
He didn't win and then was elected, winning was the act of being elected. He shouldn't have been elected because he shouldn't have won because he shouldn't have made it past the primaries because The People should be smarter than that.

Smarter? Didn't Clinton and Bush the jr win? Didn't Romney make it through the primaries? Seriously, think about it.
 
Yeah, most elections are already plurality popular vote...
I don' think I'd go that far - most elections, I'd say, produce a majority vote for one side or the other.
I think I'd question the legitimacy of a person so elected having more people vote agianst him than for him - especially if he took, say, 20% of the vote and 8 other guys each took 10%.
 
Those examples kinda prove my point...

Then your problem is with the American public and a lack of faith in the democratic process. You should check out what the Texas GOP put in their platform concerning critical thinking. ;)
 
Was discussing this w/ some friends...

It's not out of the question that Romney will significantly win the popular vote and Obama, the EV by a small margin.
Say Obama wins 271-267.
Say two of "His" electors see that the people overwhelmingly voted for Romney and decide to switch their vote to Romney.

Imagine the uproar.
 
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Was discussing this w/ some friends...

It's not out of the question that Romney will significantly win the popular vote and Obama, the EV by a small margin.
Say Obama wins 271-267.
Say two of "His" electors see that the people overwhelmingly voted for Romney and decisde to switch their vote to Romney.

Imagine the uproar.

That, more than anything else, would probably bring about an end to the electoral college. If electors don't adhere to the pledged votes from the states, then why bother voting at all? Our votes would literally mean nothing.
 
That, more than anything else, would probably bring about an end to the electoral college. If electors don't adhere to the pledged votes from the states, then why bother voting at all? Our votes would literally mean nothing.
Some state law mandates thay the electors vote as per the election. Some do not.
In all reality, your vote already means nothing :shrug:
 
Some state law mandates thay the electors vote as per the election. Some do not.
In all reality, your vote already means nothing :shrug:

Unless you live in Ohio.
 
Some state law mandates thay the electors vote as per the election. Some do not.
In all reality, your vote already means nothing :shrug:

I live in Washington DC, so this is doubly true. My presidential vote doesn't matter, since DC is close to 80% blue. I don't HAVE representation in congress, and every act by my local government is subject to being overruled by the congress (that I have no vote in). Nobody gets more shafted in the electoral or representative process than the residents of DC.
 
a tie would mean Romney / Biden. i doubt that it will happen.

and though i find that outcome undesirable, of course it's fair. that's the way that it was mapped out. if we want to change it, we can.
 
I live in Washington DC, so this is doubly true. My presidential vote doesn't matter, since DC is close to 80% blue. I don't HAVE representation in congress, and every act by my local government is subject to being overruled by the congress (that I have no vote in). Nobody gets more shafted in the electoral or representative process than the residents of DC.

It's intended that way.
 
I live in Washington DC, so this is doubly true. My presidential vote doesn't matter, since DC is close to 80% blue. I don't HAVE representation in congress, and every act by my local government is subject to being overruled by the congress (that I have no vote in). Nobody gets more shafted in the electoral or representative process than the residents of DC.

The Orange line will take you where you need to go. If your lament is that Blue always carries DC then I am going to go out on a limb and say that Congress seldom overrides DC's government to make it even more blue of a policy.
 
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