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Christie is effusive in his praise for Obama [W:56]

AdamT said:
I disagree. Four years is a long time in politics and Republicans must come to grips with the fact that they will have a very hard time taking back the WH if they don't stop primarying their candidates so hard from the far right.
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Agreed. And this is coming from a registered Republican. The far right just needs to go jump off a cliff, same as the far left.
 
Christie is finished... I dont know one person that worked for him and supported him that will next time..he proved to be a zero..he might as well go to the Dems
 
joko104 said:
No, I think the Democrats love affair of him is temporary and that he would be rejected by Iowa and subsequent primary Democrats to be their nominee.

Republicans sure as hell wouldn't go for him. That's be outright nuts. The man is fully unstable and unreliable.

Given that now two weeks later hundreds of thousands of people still do not have electricity and far more are homeless, broke, without transportation, water, jobs - - -
--- two weeks after Christie falsely declared that Obama was "doing a great job," when actually all Obama did was walk down the street, grab that election-winning quote from Christie and then abandon the entire area to travel to Las Vegas again. Stupidly, Christie gave reason why Obama should leave and do nothing, to not allow any other media coverage other than having that Christie-quote to use.
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Unreliable? Simply because he talked with Obama after "Sandy" and dared went sideways from the Tea Party way of thinking makes him unreliable? I'm old enough to remember when BIPARTISANSHIP worked. Why the hell are people so afraid of that anymore? And screw Grover Norquist just for the hell of it.
 
ReformCollege said:
Agreed. And this is coming from a registered Republican. The far right just needs to go jump off a cliff, same as the far left.
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Those who make the most noise get all the attention (and unfortunately news programs). I agree - this isn't the country for extremism.
 
Stuckinred said:
Those who make the most noise get all the attention (and unfortunately news programs). I agree - this isn't the country for extremism.
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I view extremism as a form of self-centered snobbery. The extreme left and right seem to think they are in a position to look down on everyone else. Meanwhile, they don't understand that they are the ones making fools out of themselves.
 
Stuckinred said:
Unreliable? Simply because he talked with Obama after "Sandy" and dared went sideways from the Tea Party way of thinking makes him unreliable? I'm old enough to remember when BIPARTISANSHIP worked. Why the hell are people so afraid of that anymore? And screw Grover Norquist just for the hell of it.
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There's no room in the Republican Party for people who tell the truth!!
 
AdamT said:
There's no room in the Republican Party for people who tell the truth!!
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I believe that was one of the bylaws(tell no truths) put in at the Reagan convention.
 
ReformCollege said:
This is the biggest straw-man argument I've ever heard in my life. Profits before people? Profits benefit PEOPLE. Who do you think they benefit, bears? Profit is what gets reinvested, and ultimately benefits society as a whole. Unless money gets stashed under a mattress, it is either being consumed, saved (and therefore given out in the form of a loan), or invested. All three of these end up benefiting the public as a whole some way some how.

The proof is in the pudding, even in third world countries where workers work 12 hours a day for less than a dollar an hour, globalization driven by the almighty dollar is responsible for decreasing global absolute poverty by 70 million PEOPLE a year. People.
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I don't CARE if a company makes a profit but yes they DO put profit before people. They couldn't care less if their investing helps someone somewhere in the world that is just a sidebar for them. And as far as who benefits? Those that do the investing. Your argument that 70 million people a year are pulled out of poverty due to outside investment is insane. Using that logic there would be no one IN poverty in 20 years simply because people invested and there would be far fewer than there are NOW due to the investing that has gone on previously. So please gather FACTS not right wing rhetoric and wishes. THAT doesn't help anyone including the right wing
 
Stuckinred said:
Unreliable? Simply because he talked with Obama after "Sandy" and dared went sideways from the Tea Party way of thinking makes him unreliable? I'm old enough to remember when BIPARTISANSHIP worked. Why the hell are people so afraid of that anymore? And screw Grover Norquist just for the hell of it.
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What does the TeaParty have to do with any of this?

What Christie did - after being keynote speaker for Romney - was declaring Obama was "doing a great job!" - when all Obama did was walk down the street with Christie.

What "great job" had Obama done? What great "bipartisan thing" had Obama actually done? Exactly nothing. Thus having this stupidity sound bite from the most influential pro-Romney Republican of all - Obama flew off to Las Vegas never to return to insure that was the only sound bite the media had to play - and they did over and over and over. However, when Romney came to a political rally nearby, Christie boycotted attending it.

And two weeks later we were still seeing people saying "we're dying! Someone help us!" as the great job Christie said the president had done.

Christie's sound endorsing Obama as a president was "doing a great job" was panicked stupidity at best. Within the next round of polls, Obama's overall approval rating jumped nearly 20% on Christie endorsing him as a president who was doing a great job. In fact, the president had done nothing.

Christie did NOT just walk down the street with the president. Your statement is FALSE. He openly endorsed Obama on camera. Sure, a few days later he said he still endorses Romney, but he only attached the "great" and "doing a great job" to Obama. And for days he said it over and over - what a "great job the President is doing," while boycotting Romney events.

With supporters like Christie, who needs enemies?
 
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WcBeasley said:
I don't CARE if a company makes a profit but yes they DO put profit before people. They couldn't care less if their investing helps someone somewhere in the world that is just a sidebar for them. And as far as who benefits? Those that do the investing. Your argument that 70 million people a year are pulled out of poverty due to outside investment is insane. Using that logic there would be no one IN poverty in 20 years simply because people invested and there would be far fewer than there are NOW due to the investing that has gone on previously. So please gather FACTS not right wing rhetoric and wishes. THAT doesn't help anyone including the right wing
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You should read this. Paul Krugman is about as far from "right wing" as you can get. And next time, if you want to attack me at least provide some credibility.

In Praise of Cheap Labor - Slate Magazine
 
ReformCollege said:
You should read this. Paul Krugman is about as far from "right wing" as you can get. And next time, if you want to attack me at least provide some credibility.

In Praise of Cheap Labor - Slate Magazine
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If you cll what I said 'attacking' you then perhaps I hit close to home and you need to grow some thicker skin. One example doesn't equate to an entire industry or demographic. So your premise is still flawed.
 
WcBeasley said:
Using that logic there would be no one IN poverty in 20 years simply because people invested and there would be far fewer than there are NOW due to the investing that has gone on previously. So please gather FACTS not right wing rhetoric and wishes. THAT doesn't help anyone including the right wing
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That's not logic. Over the past few years perhaps 70m per year were pulled out of abject developing world poverty, but that rate is not sustainable. We need more info.
 
WcBeasley said:
If you cll what I said 'attacking' you then perhaps I hit close to home and you need to grow some thicker skin. One example doesn't equate to an entire industry or demographic. So your premise is still flawed.
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I've actually provided you with two pieces of evidence, and have numerous other pieces to support my claim. But, since you never tried to look into the subject to provide evidence to the contrary and instead abused numerous logical fallacies such as ad hominem and hasty generalization on the basis of ignorance, providing you with more examples would be a waste of my time.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Great way to communicate with the people who never watch the news.
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First he's lauded as the perfect conservative for praising Obama's disaster management, then he's castigated for showing up on SNL. This is totally political to take him out of the 2016 race. That's all this is. Mark my words, they'll pull this SNL show up in 2016.
 
MaggieD said:
Proving once again that the right can like and respect the man, give credit where it's due, and still not agree with his policies. The left should take a lesson.
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sure, when the right stop calling our president a muslim, socialist, n-word then we'll consider taking lesson from them.
 
Travis007 said:
Put a fork in this pant load... he is becoming more disliked by the minute here in NJ...
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No, that is not why you don't like him. That is just an excuse. He was nice to Obama and said nice things about obama when obama was helping his state out of a disaster. I have a little news for you. Conservatives in Jersey are a bit different from conservatives in the south. You better watch what you say about him because you might be calling him republican potus one day.
 
ecofarm said:
That's not logic. Over the past few years perhaps 70m per year were pulled out of abject developing world poverty, but that rate is not sustainable. We need more info.
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Then again it depends on how you define poverty. I'd say living on anything less than 5$ a day (~$150 a month) qualifies as poverty but the World Bank considers $1.25 (~45$) to be the thresh hold for poverty worldwide. Also unaccounted for are living expenses. You can make what is considered decent money in some places and still have nothing to show for it due to high priced goods and living expenses such as rent. I think what is needed is a whole new reexamining of what we mean by 'poverty'. Only counting people living on a dollar and change a day makes it seem rather.... well.... dishonest.
 
Travis007 said:
Put a fork in this pant load... he is becoming more disliked by the minute here in NJ...
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Yeah, you're a real barometer of NJ's political mood -- he who predicted that Romney would take the state ... which Obama won by SEVENTEEN POINTS. :lamo
 
tererun said:
No, that is not why you don't like him. That is just an excuse. He was nice to Obama and said nice things about obama when obama was helping his state out of a disaster. I have a little news for you. Conservatives in Jersey are a bit different from conservatives in the south. You better watch what you say about him because you might be calling him republican potus one day.
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What's been amusing this whole election cycle is watching many on the right that called Romney a RINO in the Republican Primaries, all of a sudden backing him like he would be the next Ronald Reagan.
 
We now live in an America where patriotism means party first, country second. One party gets their marching orders from a media outlet owned by a Saudi Arabian government official, Australian and Communist Chinese nationals and if you don't see them as the guardians of truth and the protectors of freedom you're the one who has been hoodwinked. The political culture has defined political leaders of whatever party you're not a part of as the enemies of America including if the President himself is not a member of one's own party. I have nothing but respect for Gov. Christie for embracing unity in a time of crises in the service and best interest of the people of this country.
 
Conservative said:
What a bunch of bs! Why is it in your world that results don't matter? You believe in a one size fits all program forced on all communities around the country? What you seem to not understand is that when you delegate control to the Federal Bureaucracy you give up control of your own life and your own community.

What is amazing to me that inspite of all the documented results you still want to have a big central govt. providing for all that you need or want. I feel badly for our country when I hear people like promoting the Obama big govt. economy. That doesn't work anywhere else in the world especially with the foundation we have in this country.

I have not been instructed to do anything, I spent 35 years in the business world and know how it operates. What you and so many others fail to understand is that we don't have a fixed pie, it is a growing pie that even you can get a piece of. You have been brainwashed by a failed ideology and better wake up before it is too late.

By the way, I proudly cast my vote yesterday in early voting for Romney although it won't matter in my state which Obama will lose by 3 million votes.
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BTW... your Texas predictions were off by an order of magnitude. Obama lost Texas by 1.25 million votes, not 3 million.

https://team1.sos.state.tx.us/enr/results/nov06_164_state.htm
 
ReformCollege said:
I've actually provided you with two pieces of evidence, and have numerous other pieces to support my claim. But, since you never tried to look into the subject to provide evidence to the contrary and instead abused numerous logical fallacies such as ad hominem and hasty generalization on the basis of ignorance, providing you with more examples would be a waste of my time.
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I'm sorry did I hit a nerve? You have no idea what I have and have not done as far as looking into the subjects. I simply find it useless to post much of anything here because most people never bother to actually look at what is given nor do they even care if it doesnt align with their already formed beliefs.
 
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