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A telling sign: Sunday morning pundits - Dems unsure, think tie; Reps excited for win

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I watched a good deal of the Sunday morning talk shows just over a week away from election day... and maybe you saw what I did, too...

Most of these shows are liberal leaning, and have become more so over the course of my lifetime, which includes even the addition of the Chris Matthews Show. Still, at least "This Week", and "Meet the Press" do make the attempt to bring on pundits from the other side to appear objective. So with this in mind, when things seem even on those shows, it's a strong indicator that things are in trouble for the Democrats.

From what I saw this weekend, across all the shows, is a general theme.

Right now the Democratic pundits are worried. The few who predicted a win for Obama said it would come down to Ohio, where Obama might win based on the auto bailout, and would lose the popular vote, but eek out a electoral vote win... However, the overwhelming majority of them wanted to say "it's tied", or "I'm not sure what's going to happen"... They're very critical about the direction the president's campaign is taking, critical of all the different messages catered to too many small target audiences... and critical of the lack of enthusiasm that's there because the president's negative outlook on campaigning... trying to scare voters into voting for him rather than the 2008 positive message...

In a sharp contrast, all the Republican pundits were clear and confident of a win. They pointed to internal numbers in OH which show a Romney win, they were invigorated by the groundswell of support, they were excited about the positive message. There were some who were passively optomistic, that weren't as confident in the OH or CO numbers, that also brought up the possibility of a popular vote victory but an electoral college loss... stil the overwhelming majority of them were there arguing Mitt Romney's case, as better on the economy, creating jobs, having the experience of doing so, and being able to do so, by working with both sides to break the partisan gridlock...


Now, these are paid analysts. I doubt anyone votes based off of what any of them say. They're wrong a lot, but they're right often enough to be able to keep their jobs. One thing you can count on is that they're well versed in the game, have seen internal polling numbers, and have a general idea of what's going on.


The other thing that struck me, the visiting guests, the different Governors, and how the Republican governors were knowledgeable about what they had done to cause success in their states, and what Romney would to to build on and expand that success... What the Democratic governors did instead was just speak to the Democrat Party general talking points, and no specifics they had done in their states to become successful.

That's part of the bigger divide that needs to occur. Currently, the locations where the major recoveries are taking place are the parts of the country where Republican governors have cut taxes, cut spending, and put in reform policies. Oddly, that's what the Dems say won't work, what Romney did successfully as Governor of MA and has said he would do as president...

So why aren't we using this proven model of success more?

I think we are going to see it after the election, I think people see the groundswell of support for Romney and the positive initiatives of Republican governors to create better fiscal environments and are going to vote their wallets...

and I think the normally liberal leaning pundits were even weary of it this weekend, and are steadying and preparing themselves to analyze the presidency of Mitt Romney...
 
Re: A telling sign: Sunday morning pundits - Dems unsure, think tie; Reps excited for

Good summary. I watched them as well and saw pretty much the same thing you did.

Stephanie Cutter looked like she wanted to take gas.
 
Re: A telling sign: Sunday morning pundits - Dems unsure, think tie; Reps excited for

But...but...Romney momentum is an illusion. :lamo

Rasmussen just put out that Romney is up 2 in Ohio. While I know he's dismissed by the left as a rightwing pollster, ignoring his track record in previous general elections, especially with just days to go is just silly.
 
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