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Romney

iguanaman said:
LOL Bush was warned about 911 and told no one. His foreign policy is widely held to be the worst in modern history. 5000 dead in a useless war that he started under false pretenses. Don't get me started on Bush
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lol dont get me started on Bush he says. Ok so lets get started on what you said, first can we have some evidence that G.W.Bush was personally warned on the EXACT plans of 9/11. 2nd I could name you several worse foreign polcies in modern history starting with Hitler ending with Saddam. 3rd you can call it a useless war but the many people I dealt with and spoke with in southern Iraq would say different.

By the way you didnt still answer my question. How would any other adminstration of dealt with the aftermath of 9/11?
 
iguanaman said:
Romney's Neocon Foreign Policy: Written by Those Who Ignored al Qaeda Threat | Alternet
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This article contains such a high degree of FAIL I don't really know where to start. :lol:

I read through this entire, biased, piece of trash article......and it only specifically named ONE "advisor" that Romney has consulted...Eliot Cohen.....and Cohen WAS NOT on ANY of Bush's advisory panels.

Nice try but sadly........this article is nothing but partisan hackery and reveals nothing except bias and the writer's opinions regarding Romney. Heck.........90% of the article is nothing more than an attempt to show how Bush was "warned" about 911.
 
FluffyNinja said:
Dude, this article is from 2003. First off, how do we know that Romney is using all of these very same advisors or will be if he's elected president? Second, when are you dems gonna let the Bush era die? I think we're treading on historic ground here..........has ANY president in history ever run a campaign for REELECTION on a former presidents record........from over four years in the past? This is laughable really. Speaks volumes as to the failures of Obama's policies both foreign and domestic.

Say what you will.......we have Rahm on record saying"never let a good crisis go to waste...." all you have is a speculative article from 2003 and a few washed-up former Bush advisors that Romney may have consulted to help formulate at least part of his foreign policy approach......you are grasping at straws.........and not grabbing hold of very many. :lol:
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Dude, Bush was making the connection between 911 and Iraq in 2002-2003, so how does the fact that the article is from '03 support your argument?

Even the right wing Washington Times acknowledges that much of Romney's "brain trust" comes from the Shrub administration. Romney's team starts to look like Bush's - Washington Times
 
AdamT said:
Dude, Bush was making the connection between 911 and Iraq in 2002-2003, so how does the fact that the article is from '03 support your argument?

Even the right wing Washington Times acknowledges that much of Romney's "brain trust" comes from the Shrub administration. Romney's team starts to look like Bush's - Washington Times
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we get it, adam. your nose is permanently attached to obama's butt.. you are the biggest partisan hack on this forum.
 
Bobcat said:
we get it, adam. your nose is permanently attached to obama's butt.. you are the biggest partisan hack on this forum.
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Yes, Bobcat, we understand that lash out with unoriginal personal attacks when you have nothing of substance to add (virtually all the time).
 
Hairytic said:
I worry about Romney on FP also, but what I worry about is he is using former Bush advisers. We don't need any FP adivers from the Bush administration.
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Funny how Dems wrote off Obama's FP experience (or lack there of) in 2008, but now FP experience is suddenly a "big ****ing deal."
 
AdamT said:
Yes, Bobcat, we understand that lash out with unoriginal personal attacks when you have nothing of substance to add (virtually all the time).
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the "subtance" is that obama has failed in every way that presidents are measured. You continue to defend failure making you nothing but an empty shell and puppet of the administration. How can you look yourself in the mirror?
 
ReformCollege said:
Funny how Dems wrote off Obama's FP experience (or lack there of) in 2008, but now FP experience is suddenly a "big ****ing deal."
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I can't speak for Dems, but I didn't like McCain's forgeign policy. McCain had the same amount FP experience as Obama. The differences in their solutions to foreign policies was that McCain came off as a war monger and Obama came off as a diplomat. When it comes to diplomat experiences, Obama has that in spades from his work prior to becoming a senator.
 
Bobcat said:
the "subtance" is that obama has failed in every way that presidents are measured. You continue to defend failure making you nothing but an empty shell and puppet of the administration. How can you look yourself in the mirror?
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Your point of view will not be what gets written in the history books. Obama has done many good things and is not a failure and will not go down in history as one.
 
Hairytic said:
Your point of view will not be what gets written in the history books. Obama has done many good things and is not a failure and will not go down in history as one.
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History books are written by Liberals ;P.
 
Higgins86 said:
Bush's advisors the same advisors that had to deal with the biggest attack on America soil since Pearl Harbour? Very easy to 2nd guess them but what would you have done in the same situation? I was a teenager in the UK during Bush's term but I respected his response to 9/11 and equally respected his stance on Iraq. Iraq a country that the west had to go to war with during the Gulf war and then continued to disobey UN protocol during Clintons term which resulted in heavy bombing. The 2nd war in Iraq was only a matter of time and it meant little that Bush was president, it was coming.
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Based on present experiences, the liberals would have hunted around for a bad movie trailer to blame it on, than lied their asses off about whose fault it was.
 
Hairytic said:
Your point of view will not be what gets written in the history books. Obama has done many good things and is not a failure and will not go down in history as one.
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LOL, yep lots of good things:

1. 4 straight years of 1 trillion $ deficits
2. increased the national debt by 6 trillion
3. 4 years of unemployment over 8%
4. fewer people working now than when he took office
5. more on food stamps
6, more in poverty
7 gas prices doubled
8. no budget for 4 years
9. dead ambassador
10. gitmo still open
11. more americans killed in Afghan than under bush
12. "corpseman"
13 "57 states"
14 " you didn't build that"
15. "I want to redistribute wealth"
16 "Iran is a tiny country"
17 bowed to saudi king

yep, hairy, lots to be proud of there. the historians will probably proclaim him right up there with Lincoln.
 
Bobcat said:
we get it, adam. your nose is permanently attached to obama's butt.. you are the biggest partisan hack on this forum.
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Liberals like Adam forgot how Iraq attacked us on September 11, 2001.
 
Hairytic said:
Bush was a business man and a good governor also. That didn't turn out so well.
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Bush was heavily subsidized by daddy' friends....no way he would have survived without help at every turn.
 
UtahBill said:
Bush was heavily subsidized by daddy' friends....no way he would have survived without help at every turn.
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I agree, and I think the same is true for Romney. Very few businessmen rise to the level Romney has without some help from family influsences.
 
How old are you? Serious question.

andrewf said:
While I think both presidential candidates work mostly for the business community I have to say that Obama is way way better than Romney I mean look at his policies
Not lowering taxes on the middle class link here Romney Tells Ohioans Not to Expect ‘Huge’ Tax Cuts / ideastream - Northeast Ohio Public Radio, Television and Multiple Media while decreasing domestic spending
Increasing military spending the American people get noting from that policy
More tax cuts for small business most small business people are wealthy
Drilling for more oil which is horrible for the environment and the economy in the long run
keeping the rich on welfare through super low taxes
and more vertical taxes on the poor
Him and his teenage running mate keep on insulting the Federal reserve probably trying to get Ron Paul voter's, sorry to say Ron Paul is an economic no nothing
I mean he's so crazy and so right wing it's unbelieveable.
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Bobcat said:
LOL, yep lots of good things:

1. 4 straight years of 1 trillion $ deficits
2. increased the national debt by 6 trillion
3. 4 years of unemployment over 8%
4. fewer people working now than when he took office
5. more on food stamps
6, more in poverty
7 gas prices doubled
8. no budget for 4 years
9. dead ambassador
10. gitmo still open
11. more americans killed in Afghan than under bush
12. "corpseman"
13 "57 states"
14 " you didn't build that"
15. "I want to redistribute wealth"
16 "Iran is a tiny country"
17 bowed to saudi king

yep, hairy, lots to be proud of there. the historians will probably proclaim him right up there with Lincoln.
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It's clear you don't like Obama, and that's cool with me. I could care less how you view his job performance. History won't be written with your list. The facts are that Romney is not a better alternative to Obama. If there had been a better alternative to Obama, I would be voting for that person. The GOP failed to deliver a better alternative and it has gone too far right for the good of this country. I will be voting against the GOP this election.
 
Hairytic said:
I agree, and I think the same is true for Romney. Very few businessmen rise to the level Romney has without some help from family influsences.
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you should do some research on google....Romney did law school and his MBA at the same time, and got very high grades.
He didn't need much help...
 
Hairytic said:
It's clear you don't like Obama, and that's cool with me. I could care less how you view his job performance. History won't be written with your list. The facts are that Romney is not a better alternative to Obama. If there had been a better alternative to Obama, I would be voting for that person. The GOP failed to deliver a better alternative and it has gone too far right for the good of this country. I will be voting against the GOP this election.
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The GOP failed when it favored Bush over McCain, and later when it favored McCain over Romney. We are 12 years deeper in the hole because GHWB wanted to repeat history and have father-son presidencies in the history books. If he had chosen Jeb, we would be far better off, but he pushed the shrub to the forefront and we got burned.
Romney only appears too far right because you are too far left. Nearly all presidents shift to the middle once elected.....
 
Bobcat said:
LOL, yep lots of good things:

1. 4 straight years of 1 trillion $ deficits Money spent trying to fix Bush's policies
2. increased the national debt by 6 trillion Ditto
3. 4 years of unemployment over 8% Unemployment decreasing
4. fewer people working now than when he took office number rising
5. more on food stamps Happens in a recession
6, more in poverty Happens in a recession
7 gas prices doubled Not controlled by the President, but I am sure you already know this.
8. no budget for 4 years Republican Obstructionism
9. dead ambassador People who killed hims fault. Pretty sure a couple of them have already been caught or killed
10. gitmo still open You really trying to use this as a negative when it was opened under Bush?
11. more americans killed in Afghan than under bush Osama's dead, Al Qaeda is greatly demolished
12. "corpseman" *Insert any Bushism you feel necessary*
13 "57 states" *Insert Bushism here*
14 " you didn't build that" *Bushism*
15. "I want to redistribute wealth" *Bushism*
16 "Iran is a tiny country" *Bushism*
17 bowed to saudi king *Bush couldn't find his way out of a pair of doors*

yep, hairy, lots to be proud of there. the historians will probably proclaim him right up there with Lincoln.
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No sense being too dishonest. I have asked before and I will ask again. Show me how things would be different under Romney rather than just putting down Obama. Lotta hate for Obama, not a lot of love for Romney.
 
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