Gallup: Obama's Job Approval Loses 7 points in 3 days

Outlier, or part of a general Romney momentum / Obama deflation?

In the most precipitous decline it has seen in more than a year, President Barack Obama's job approval rating has dropped 7 points in three days, according to Gallup.

In the three-day period ending on Oct. 23, says Gallup, 53 percent said they approved of the job Obama was doing and 42 percent said they did not.
On Oct. 24, that dropped to 51 percent who said they approved and 44 percent who said they do not.
On Oct. 25, it dropped again to 48 percent who said they approved and 47 percent who said they do not.
On Oct. 26, it dropped yet again to 46 percent who said they approved and 49 percent who said they did not....

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if you go to Gallup, it looks as though the President was under water in the lead up to the Sept 11 attack, and then above water until now.

why anyone would approve at all of the job he is doing is beyond me...

cpwill said:

Outlier, or part of a general Romney momentum / Obama deflation?




if you go to Gallup, it looks as though the President was under water in the lead up to the Sept 11 attack, and then above water until now.

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Gallup's approval has been pretty screwy over the past two months. There are like five different peaks of 52-54% in between valleys of 46-48%. It's only among registered voters and only a three day average, so I don't think it's a very reliable in predicting movement in the election.

cpwill said:

Outlier, or part of a general Romney momentum / Obama deflation?




if you go to Gallup, it looks as though the President was under water in the lead up to the Sept 11 attack, and then above water until now.

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How could it not with all the BILLIONAIRE republicans pumping hundreds of millions into negative ads...lol...in florida its incredible 10 gop mailers a day all lieing negative **** and phone calls up the gazoo

Presumably it's an outlier. 7 points is a major swing...it's highly unlikely that the president would lose 7 points in 3 days, especially during a time when there were no major news events. I wouldn't read too much into it unless other polls start reporting the same thing.

Kandahar said:

Presumably it's an outlier. 7 points is a major swing...it's highly unlikely that the president would lose 7 points in 3 days, especially during a time when there were no major news events. I wouldn't read too much into it unless other polls start reporting the same thing.

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There have been several major news stories... including 1) the post-debate reactions, 2) several different reports of warnings to the administration of the attacks in Bengazi, 3) several desperate ad's and appearances by Obama from the "BSer" comment to the Lena Durham ad, which have shown this president to be childish and petty, not presidential, 4) numerous poor Q3 economic reports of losses in profit, if not outright losses, which have spurred a huge drop in stock markets, and 5) news about how many trips and how much effort this president is doing to rush around to different states, in his most active effort of the entire four years, which shows where his real priority is, his own hide.

So, I think overall, the more people are seeing of this president when put under diress by Romney, and the better and more presidential and responsible that Romney looks in this crunch time... the more people are displeased with Obama, and considering it President Romney...

Anagram said:

Gallup's approval has been pretty screwy over the past two months. There are like five different peaks of 52-54% in between valleys of 46-48%. It's only among registered voters and only a three day average, so I don't think it's a very reliable in predicting movement in the election.

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I noticed that his job approval rating was consistently going up when Romney was erasing his gains after the first debate. :shrug:

lpast said:

How could it not with all the BILLIONAIRE republicans pumping hundreds of millions into negative ads...lol...in florida its incredible 10 gop mailers a day all lieing negative **** and phone calls up the gazoo

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yeah there are not any billionaire dems or billionaire unions spewing crap about Romney and the media isn't doing anything to help Obunny either

IndepCentristMA said:

There have been several major news stories... including 1) the post-debate reactions, 2) several different reports of warnings to the administration of the attacks in Bengazi, 3) several desperate ad's and appearances by Obama from the "BSer" comment to the Lena Durham ad, which have shown this president to be childish and petty, not presidential, 4) numerous poor Q3 economic reports of losses in profit, if not outright losses, which have spurred a huge drop in stock markets, and 5) news about how many trips and how much effort this president is doing to rush around to different states, in his most active effort of the entire four years, which shows where his real priority is, his own hide.

So, I think overall, the more people are seeing of this president when put under diress by Romney, and the better and more presidential and responsible that Romney looks in this crunch time... the more people are displeased with Obama, and considering it President Romney...

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I suspect that you're just seeing what you want to see. Most voters do not actively follow the day-to-day news of the campaign. For example, I have no idea who Lena Durham is or what ad you're talking about, so I highly doubt that the average voter does either. We are now at the point in the campaign where there needs to be a major news event to really change voters' minds, and IMO nothing on your list cuts it. Sure, there are some news stories...but nothing any more substantial than the typical week. We didn't have any major fiscal meltdowns, any major foreign policy crisis, any political bombshells, etc.

It's been a decidedly average campaign week. So when one polling firm reports a major change like this, I would just chalk it up to statistical noise. If lots of other polling firms start to show a major drop in Obama's approval, then that will be a different story. But until then, color me skeptical.

TurtleDude said:

yeah there are not any billionaire dems or billionaire unions spewing crap about Romney and the media isn't doing anything to help Obunny either

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Turtle thats true...but the amount of money being spent by billionaire teatard types is UNBELIEVABLE because they will get it all beack 4 fold if romney and ryan gets in off the skin of everyone elses ass.

lpast said:

Turtle thats true...but the amount of money being spent by billionaire teatard types is UNBELIEVABLE because they will get it all beack 4 fold if romney and ryan gets in off the skin of everyone elses ass.

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and you don't think Soros and the hollywood socialists are getting nothing if Obunny wins?

or the labor union bosses and the lawyers who sue doctors and manufacturers

lpast said:

Turtle thats true...but the amount of money being spent by billionaire teatard types is UNBELIEVABLE because they will get it all beack 4 fold if romney and ryan gets in off the skin of everyone elses ass.

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We need to start calling corporate and big money private contributions what they are.

Investments.

Hell, corporate officers can't spend money without an expectation of return.

They're required by law to maximize return for investors.

Which would preclude giving "gifts" to political campaigns or PACs.

TurtleDude said:

and you don't think Soros and the hollywood socialists are getting nothing if Obunny wins?

or the labor union bosses and the lawyers who sue doctors and manufacturers

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What they are spending pales to the hundreds up hundreds of millions the teatard superpacs are spending...and please dont insult me by trying to tell me they are spending it for the good of the country...they could give a **** less about the country its about their pockets

lpast said:

What they are spending pales to the hundreds up hundreds of millions the teatard superpacs are spending...and please dont insult me by trying to tell me they are spending it for the good of the country...they could give a **** less about the country its about their pockets

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cut the crap, Obama has as much money as the opposition does. and don't try to pretend that soros, and SEIU criminal enterprises and other union thugs and the hollyweird libertines care about the country either

lpast said:

What they are spending pales to the hundreds up hundreds of millions the teatard superpacs are spending...and please dont insult me by trying to tell me they are spending it for the good of the country...they could give a **** less about the country its about their pockets

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Of course, BOTH sides get a LOT of money from Wall St. types.

Thats why theyre the only sector that has been doing great since the bubble popped.

You know, the bubble they made billions from, then stuck us with the bill.

Catch "Inside Job".

That'll piss you off.

Kandahar said:

I suspect that you're just seeing what you want to see. Most voters do not actively follow the day-to-day news of the campaign. For example, I have no idea who Lena Durham is or what ad you're talking about, so I highly doubt that the average voter does either. We are now at the point in the campaign where there needs to be a major news event to really change voters' minds, and IMO nothing on your list cuts it. Sure, there are some news stories...but nothing any more substantial than the typical week. We didn't have any major fiscal meltdowns, any major foreign policy crisis, any political bombshells, etc.

It's been a decidedly average campaign week. So when one polling firm reports a major change like this, I would just chalk it up to statistical noise. If lots of other polling firms start to show a major drop in Obama's approval, then that will be a different story. But until then, color me skeptical.

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LMFAO... again... I have to repeat what I said earlier, since you apparently didn't listen...

There have been several major news stories... including;

1) the post-debate reactions

The Gallup 3-day tracking poll for Oct23 would include 21, 22, and 23... only the 23rd would have had results from people who had watched the debate on the evening of the 22nd... and it still would've taken a couple days for it to really have sunk in for all voters... So, it's safe to say, the polls starting on the 23rd, would start changing based on what was seen...

2) several different reports of warnings to the administration of the attacks in Bengazi,

This isn't me following the news, these are the lead news stories for many agencies, in a steady stream of bad news for the president, for his handling of the Bengazi attacks...

This very week stories came out that
- there were requests for additional security that were turned down by the state department
- there were requests for assistance with an attack that was underway that were turned down by the CIA
- that one of the men killed in the attack was disobeying orders leaving his post to assist those under attack, and was being ordered not to assist them
- that they had ariel pictures of the attack as it was going on, and still refused to send additional security
- that Gen Petraeus insists no one at the CIA turned down assistance, if there was such a call it would've come from the president
- people found out that militants have taken over northern Mali... in a sign that the continued violence is spreading...

Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus | The Weekly Standard
President Obama Begs Off Answering Whether Americans in Benghazi Were Denied Requests for Help - ABC News
Incompetence in Benghazi - BostonHerald.com
Report: U.S. Officials Denied Request for Military Back-Up During Benghazi Attack, Ordered Stand Down - Reason 24/7 : Reason.com


3) several desperate ad's and appearances by Obama from the "BSer" comment to the Lena Durham ad, which have shown this president to be childish and petty, not presidential,

The stories I spoke of are being reported across numerous news agencies... my girlfriend learned about a lot of them just from riding the elevator at her work...

Rolling Stone released an interview with the president which he called Romney a "BSer"... and saying they should lower the voting age so kids could vote...
The Obama campaign released an ad with Lena Dunham comparing voting for the first time to having sex for the first time, which has drawn the ire of many
There was also the posting of a picture of Mitt Romney on a stool wearing a dunce cap on the president's website...

It's desperate and petty times when the sitting president has to resort to childish tactics as these... most people have been put off by them... and a continued classlessness that this president and the vice president are displaying...

In fact, it's one of the things that seems to have backfired on them in the debates... Biden's rude hysterics were seen as unpresidential, and Obama's condescending childish battleship comments were seen as that, and the bayonet comment saw a reaction from manufacturers of them... it may have fired up his base a little, but it has been losing the middle ground voters...

Romney Hits the 50 Percent Mark, With a Clear Edge on the Economy - ABC News


4) numerous poor Q3 economic reports of losses in profit, if not outright losses, which have spurred a huge drop in stock markets,

I know you said there was no fiscal meltdowns, but the facts don't bear that out... there was quite a fiscal meltdown this week, with the Dow dropping over 500 points... based off of numerous poor Q3 earnings reports from companies that were lower than expected, reflect a loss in profits, or were reports of outright losses...

U.S. stocks finish flat; Dow drops 250 pts for week - NASDAQ.com
News Summary: Stocks stabilize, and Dow drops 25 - Yahoo! Finance

This is also following a week prior, where it also dropped 250 pts at the end of the week based on poor reports from several large companies...
Dow drops 200 on weak reports from Microsoft, G.E., McDonald’s Dow drops 200 on weak earnings reports - Business - The Boston Globe
"Financial analysts expect corporate earnings for July through September to be lower than the same period a year ago, which would be the first yearly decline in three years."

So the DOW has dropped 500pts in little over a week, based off of dismal Q3 reports...
(makes one wonder how the unemployment numbers were reported as a good sign of the economy... when everything else for Q3 is trending downward...)

and 5) news about how many trips and how much effort this president is doing to rush around to different states, in his most active effort of the entire four years, which shows where his real priority is, his own hide.

The president, fresh off his performances on Lettermen, the View, etc. then headed out west for Leno... releasing a tough schedule of flights across the country and back... (On Air Force One, on taxpayer dollars, campaigning, not doing anything) He complained about all the states he had to visit, and all the events he was doing.... The White House even put out a press release stating that he had done 200 something interviews this year, which was more than any president... which begs the questions of why is he doing so many interviews? who is being president while he's doing these celeb publicity tour events?


Then you want to talk about whether this is an outlier or not... the trouble is Gallup was the outlier on this, in suggesting people approved of the president's job by over 50% to begin with, when many others have already had it below 50%...

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

Romney Hits the 50 Percent Mark, With a Clear Edge on the Economy - ABC News

Simply compare the stump speeches of each candidate.

Seriously.

The contrast is stark.

Kandahar said:

I suspect that you're just seeing what you want to see. Most voters do not actively follow the day-to-day news of the campaign. For example, I have no idea who Lena Durham is or what ad you're talking about, so I highly doubt that the average voter does either. We are now at the point in the campaign where there needs to be a major news event to really change voters' minds, and IMO nothing on your list cuts it. Sure, there are some news stories...but nothing any more substantial than the typical week. We didn't have any major fiscal meltdowns, any major foreign policy crisis, any political bombshells, etc.

It's been a decidedly average campaign week. So when one polling firm reports a major change like this, I would just chalk it up to statistical noise. If lots of other polling firms start to show a major drop in Obama's approval, then that will be a different story. But until then, color me skeptical.

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You like to ignore the obvious, Obama's Libya coverup, or gross negligence and incompetence, tell me which is worse?

Then add in 6 trillion added to the national debt in just 4 yrs, an anemic 1.3% GDP, high unemployment, more people on food stamps, more on welfare, more poor. Shall I go on?

AdamT said:

I noticed that his job approval rating was consistently going up when Romney was erasing his gains after the first debate. :shrug:

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People were feeling sorry for Obama after he was a no show for the first debate.

Born Free said:

You like to ignore the obvious, Obama's Libya coverup, or gross negligence and incompetence, tell me which is worse?

Then add in 6 trillion added to the national debt in just 4 yrs, an anemic 1.3% GDP, high unemployment, more people on food stamps, more on welfare, more poor. Shall I go on?

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Please; the Obama Zombies still don't get it. His campaign slogan is "Forward" for one reason. He doesn't want to be judged on the past four years.

Kandahar said:

Presumably it's an outlier. 7 points is a major swing...it's highly unlikely that the president would lose 7 points in 3 days, especially during a time when there were no major news events.

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I wondered the same. This is why I wonder if you could place this into the context of a post-attack "rally round the President" effect, or into the general Romney momentum. As you noted, it's been a negative season, and much of the Obama campaigns' effort has gone into defining Romney. It's not implausible that Romney failed to appear a bloodthirsty capitalist vulture in the debates, and the result was that Obama's approval rating is sliding as people feel okay about "letting go" of him to shift to Romney.

Born Free said:

You like to ignore the obvious, Obama's Libya coverup, or gross negligence and incompetence, tell me which is worse?

Then add in 6 trillion added to the national debt in just 4 yrs, an anemic 1.3% GDP, high unemployment, more people on food stamps, more on welfare, more poor. Shall I go on?

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Those things are not "breaking news" stories in the past three days that could explain a sudden drop in approval. Whatever the merits of your claim, they've already been priced in to the polls. Random gripes that you have about Obama do not explain a SUDDEN drop.

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Those things are not "breaking news" stories in the past three days that could explain a sudden drop in approval. Whatever the merits of your claim, they've already been priced in to the polls. Random gripes that you have about Obama do not explain a SUDDEN drop.

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The Libya scandal is getting worse by the day. Obama's gross negligence and incompetence is a leader that leads from behind.