Obama FINALLY has a plan for his second term... where are the threads? LOL...

[AdamT]

Obama has a plan and that is to destroy America. He only needs four more years to do it.

Right wing brilliance on parade....

 

[Tettsuo]

Obama has a plan and that is to destroy America. He only needs four more years to do it.

He's doing a terrible job at destroying America if that's his plan.

 

[AdamT]

It's a recipe for another four years like the last four years.

That's right, it is. It's a recipe to continue the recovery from last time Republicans wrecked the economy. The economy will continue to improve and unemployment will continue to fall. Y'all will have to wait until 2016 to knock it back down again.

 

[Fisher]

Basically this is just putting Obama's existing plan in a more accessible format ... for those who were too lazy to look it up on the interwebs.

And CNN has reported that they had to go fishing around in his proposed budget to distill what his plan might be at which point it became obvious that his plan to reduce the deficit will add an extra $3.5T than if we made no changes to anything so he his plans make the deficit worse, not better.

Add into that we are about 10 years out from Japan and China going from being lender nations to borrower nations due to their aging population, and we have a very narrow window to get this fixed, and the Obama deficit reduction plan that adds to the debt makes even less sense.

 

[Bamamom]

He's doing a terrible job at destroying America if that's his plan.

I respectfully disagree with you. I just hope and pray that we don't give him a chance to finish his plan.

 

[code1211]

That's right, it is. It's a recipe to continue the recovery from last time Republicans wrecked the economy. The economy will continue to improve and unemployment will continue to fall. Y'all will have to wait until 2016 to knock it back down again.

I'm looking forward to the next Household Survey to see if the 800,000 people who became self employed last month continue to run successful businesses.

 

[zimmer]

The rough draft of Obama's Secret Plan as penned by his Red Diaper baby buddy Axelrod came as an environmentally sensitive disposable version.

 

[frogloe]

I'm looking forward to the next Household Survey to see if the 800,000 people who became self employed last month continue to run successful businesses.

Do you always pull shocking statistics out of your rectum, or are you going to provide a high quality source?

 

[Kane]

The rough draft of Obama's Secret Plan as penned by his Red Diaper baby buddy Axelrod came as an environmentally sensitive disposable version.

Maybe its time to rig the election against you Tea Partiers just for being poor sports ... :2razz:

 

[CedarBear]

Libloons talk of Obama's 'Plan' like the little feller on Fantasy Island.

"Da plan, da plan...look boss...da plan!"

 

[PrometheusBound]

It reads like comedy:

The New Economic Patriotism: A Plan for Jobs & Middle-Class Security.

Oi vey...

It should read:
Fundamentally Changing the Nation
Four More Years of Marxism in Amerika: My Plan for Accelerated Middle-Class Insecurity and Economic Decay

After the debates... in the dying days of the election when it can't be debated openly he springs this crap?

So much for having confidence in the electorate.

Has anyone seen this covered anywhere? It seems the journ-O-lists are covering for him again... ROTFLOL...

When Baroke Oblamer talked about "shovel-ready," we should have asked, "What crap are you getting ready to shovel on top of us?"

 

[PrometheusBound]

You mean that 3-letter word that Biden talked about - JOBS?

The Demwits gave us two 3-letter words: SNOW JOBS.

 

[j-mac]

Obama FINALLY has a plan for his second term... where are the threads? LOL...?

They are in the '08 Presidential Election forum because it's all the same ****! :mrgreen:

 

[code1211]

Do you always pull shocking statistics out of your rectum, or are you going to provide a high quality source?

How about the BLS?

The figures for these reports come from surveys. There is no grand census of people who work or of the folks who are turning in money to the IRS or any particularly impressive and accurate method of counting folks who are working.

They just call guys up and ask if they are working or not. That is the "Household Survey". It's not much different than me calling guys up and asking who wants to watch the Colts today.

Then there is the Establishment Survey. Same thing, except that in this exercise, they are asking employers who hired and how many.

The difference is usually pretty small. In September, 2012, the difference was outrageous AND California did not report on time. Interesting.

Anyway, here are the approximate results:

Household survey: + 873,000 jobs
Establishment Survey: +114,000 jobs

Assuming that both numbers are perfect, a fantasy, then we must also assume that nobody hired the other 760,000 newly employed and the only other explanation is that they started their own businesses.

This should have been a big proclamation of the the Obama/Biden team, but i don't recall hearing anything about the unprecedented new start ups of small businesses.

Did you?

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

 

[frogloe]

How about the BLS?

The figures for these reports come from surveys. There is no grand census of people who work or of the folks who are turning in money to the IRS or any particularly impressive and accurate method of counting folks who are working.

They just call guys up and ask if they are working or not. That is the "Household Survey". It's not much different than me calling guys up and asking who wants to watch the Colts today.

Then there is the Establishment Survey. Same thing, except that in this exercise, they are asking employers who hired and how many.

The difference is usually pretty small. In September, 2012, the difference was outrageous AND California did not report on time. Interesting.

Anyway, here are the approximate results:

Household survey: + 873,000 jobs
Establishment Survey: +114,000 jobs

Assuming that both numbers are perfect, a fantasy, then we must also assume that nobody hired the other 760,000 newly employed and the only other explanation is that they started their own businesses.

This should have been a big proclamation of the the Obama/Biden team, but i don't recall hearing anything about the unprecedented new start ups of small businesses.

Did you?

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

Um... well the 114,000 was listed as "non-farm payroll" so that might account for several of the jobs you're talking about. I'm also a little confused by what the consider employment because they report a 600,000 increase in part time jobs. Do part time jobs count as employment... or what's going on there? The statistics there are confusing. I also think you may be oversimplifying them.

 

[Fisher]

Obama's To-Do List for his Second Term:

1. Invoke Executive Privilege;

2. Hire a team of lawyers;

3. Plead the 5th after that whole National Security protection thing fails.

 

[code1211]

Um... well the 114,000 was listed as "non-farm payroll" so that might account for several of the jobs you're talking about. I'm also a little confused by what the consider employment because they report a 600,000 increase in part time jobs. Do part time jobs count as employment... or what's going on there? The statistics there are confusing. I also think you may be oversimplifying them.

All of the figures in this report are confusing. The result of the confusing data is misleading. Even after all of the soft data has been collected, then it is adjusted and then it is released. Seems more like this kind of tripe would have escaped.

Because it is what it is, it is ripe for a corrupts push in one direction or another.

It strikes me as unusual that Obama needed to have the rate below 8% before the election and miraculously it got there. I'm not saying that the numbers are rigged. I'm only noticing that it seems to be very convenient to his purpose.

 

[frogloe]

All of the figures in this report are confusing. The result of the confusing data is misleading. Even after all of the soft data has been collected, then it is adjusted and then it is released. Seems more like this kind of tripe would have escaped.

Because it is what it is, it is ripe for a corrupts push in one direction or another.

It strikes me as unusual that Obama needed to have the rate below 8% before the election and miraculously it got there. I'm not saying that the numbers are rigged. I'm only noticing that it seems to be very convenient to his purpose.

I seriously doubt the numbers are faked. I think most job reports look like this. I just don't really know what factors in where. :\

 

[poweRob]

Well you have to give Obama credit tho. I mean for 4 years he has no plan .. Flies by the seat of his pants … can’t even get one budget passed …. And two weeks before an election he comes out with this miracle plan that is going to save the world .. . Can’t be discussed .. Can’t be debated .. And has no merit to it … but hey he can now say he has a plan .

Just what we need .. 4 more years of the most “transparent” government that we have ever had .. *LOL*

You guys need to get your story straight. First Obama didn't do anything. Then you guys bitch about Obamacare and how he's done so much to destroy the country and all that jazz... now he didn't have a plan for the first four years.

Its funny that no matter how inconsistent slams on obama are, your post will get a sheepload of "likes" as long as it's still slams Obama.

 

[code1211]

I seriously doubt the numbers are faked. I think most job reports look like this. I just don't really know what factors in where. :\

I really hope that they are honest numbers, but I'm old enough to be cynical when things don't smell right.

I'm like you, though. I don't know enough about this to be able call it with certainty. However, I don't know why a fish rots, but I do know that when it stinks, it's not a good bet to start a fire for shore fry.

 

[tres borrachos]

Obama's To-Do List for his Second Term:

1. Invoke Executive Privilege;

2. Hire a team of lawyers;

3. Plead the 5th after that whole National Security protection thing fails.

Don't forget the weekly $40,000 a plate dinners with the cool Hollywood crowds, and at least 6 rounds of golf per week. Plus the monthly visit with the gals on The View.

 

[The Barbarian]

You guys need to get your story straight. First Obama didn't do anything. Then you guys bitch about Obamacare and how he's done so much to destroy the country and all that jazz... now he didn't have a plan for the first four years.

Its funny that no matter how inconsistent slams on obama are, your post will get a sheepload of "likes" as long as it's still slams Obama.

*LOL* much the same as yours when you slam Romney .. and the difference is ??