The people who are going to vote for Romney are the same people that re-elected Bush

mbig · Oct 24, 2012

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BACotner said:
[SIZE= 4]Nice chart. The problem is that 60% of the jobs that were "created" during the past 2+ years are low wage jobs, while 60% of the jobs lost during the same time frame were medium wage jobs. To put it simply, people have lost jobs making over $50,000 per year and have taken jobs making under $40,000 per year. That has lowered the tax base for this country while at the same time the government is spending more and more. Bottom line is that when your income is reduced, the spending has to be reduced, not the opposite.
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And, AS I SAID, deleveraging will continue into the next Presidents term.
Probably the full 'dead decade' that followed the last (1929) Depression. This one was only mitigated, by the Fed/etc knowing what to do this time.

The rest of my answer/argument, Non-chart, is of course, Unaddressed.
and Easy on the FONTS, it doesn't make your Weak post any stronger.

OpportunityCost · Oct 25, 2012

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sharon said:
Mitt attended Cranbrook Prep school.. The current tuition is $37 to $44k a year.. In the early 1970s it was in the range of $13,000 a year.

So what are you talking about?

yeah....

Helix · Oct 25, 2012

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Romney is running on the same hawkish neoconservative platform that Bush ran on twice. it's not a surprise that Romney voters probably voted for Bush in '04.

Jarhead · Oct 25, 2012

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Liberals love to bring President Bush back into the argument every chance they get. They are still so angry at themselves for the 2000 election and the fact that the successor to "slick willy" couldn't defeat a dumb ole' hick from Texas. Their war cries always have "......Bush....." somewhere in them. It is ignorant and childish.

Romney is nothing like Bush (who in my estimate was a pretty good President). He is a businessman, his main concerns are to bring down the deficit and find a way to get people back to work. I for one do not believe that it is the job of the Government to "create" jobs for us, it is however a function of Government to foster an environment in which jobs can be created. Progressivism does not do that. Taxing the wealthy and giving to those who are not working is not the way things in this country are supposed to be.

Helping those who REALLY need help? Yes, by all means. Let's be 100% honest with ourselves though. There are many on the freebie rolls of this country who simply choose to be because that is the easiest thing to do. Are there as many as I might think? Probably not, but to say that there are not any is a flat out lie or simple ignorance.

Bobcat · Oct 25, 2012

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shiang said:
I figured some people are very puzzled and the title is the simplest way I can put it.

Go ahead, prove me wrong and tell me who here voting for Romney didn't vote for Bush the 2nd time. ...and no, it doesn't count if you didn't vote in 2004.

you are correct, smart people voted for Bush over Kerry and the smart people will vote for Romney over Obama. Not sure why you think that is worthy of a thread.

LowDown · Oct 25, 2012

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shiang said:
I figured some people are very puzzled and the title is the simplest way I can put it.

Go ahead, prove me wrong and tell me who here voting for Romney didn't vote for Bush the 2nd time. ...and no, it doesn't count if you didn't vote in 2004.

Apparently you think that voting for Bush is something to be ashamed of. Let me bust you out of your little cocoon and make it clear to you: I voted for Bush to be president twice, and I'm proud of it. And I'll be voting for Romney.

tres borrachos · Oct 25, 2012

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LowDown said:
Apparently you think that voting for Bush is something to be ashamed of. Let me bust you out of your little cocoon and make it clear to you: I voted for Bush to be president twice, and I'm proud of it. And I'll be voting for Romney.

You beat me to it. I also voted for Bush twice, and I'm proud of it. I also will vote for Romney, and I'm proud of that.

The desperate Obama drones just love to bring up Bush.

Conservative · Oct 25, 2012

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shiang said:
I figured some people are very puzzled and the title is the simplest way I can put it.

Go ahead, prove me wrong and tell me who here voting for Romney didn't vote for Bush the 2nd time. ...and no, it doesn't count if you didn't vote in 2004.

I will be voting for Romney because of his resume and results in the private and public sector. I didn't vote for Obama because of his resume and now won't vote for him because of his results. When I voted to re-elect Bush in 2004 Bush didn't have 22.7 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, 1.3% GDP growth, 5.6 trillion added to the debt, 47 million on food stamps. Romney cut the unemployment rate in MA and balanced the budget, good enough for me.

This country is extremely divided so based upon the last four years and the campaign rhetoric of Obama which candidate is more likely to reach accross the aisle and unite people? I don't know how anyone who truly cares about this country could support Obama.

hikari · Oct 25, 2012

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shiang said:
I figured some people are very puzzled and the title is the simplest way I can put it.

Go ahead, prove me wrong and tell me who here voting for Romney didn't vote for Bush the 2nd time. ...and no, it doesn't count if you didn't vote in 2004.

About 2/3 of people vote down party lines no matter what, so the majority will vote for the same parties they did in 2004. This is why despite Obama getting a huge turnout in 2008 he really didn't win the popular vote by much. Sure he won the electoral votes by a large margin, and he is likely to win again, but this is due more to the nature of states rather than a clear majority.

Kerry and Romney are way too similar to me though, they should run together, with thier flip flop powers they could be the most adaptable administration to ever solve problems in the white house.

Breitbart4Life · Oct 25, 2012

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hikari said:
About 2/3 of people vote down party lines no matter what, so the majority will vote for the same parties they did in 2004. This is why despite Obama getting a huge turnout in 2008 he really didn't win the popular vote by much. Sure he won the electoral votes by a large margin, and he is likely to win again, but this is due more to the nature of states rather than a clear majority.

Kerry and Romney are way too similar to me though, they should run together, with thier flip flop powers they could be the most adaptable administration to ever solve problems in the white house.

And Barack Hussein hasn't flip flopped? What about gay marriage? Three times to be exact. What about Gitmo? What about the Bush Tax Cuts? What about the time tables in Iraq and Afghanistan? I can go on, but hopefully you get the picture.

johnny_rebson · Oct 25, 2012

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hikari said:
Kerry and Romney are way too similar to me though, they should run together, with thier flip flop powers......

I was against Romney during the primaries for this very reason.

Conservative · Oct 25, 2012

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Has there ever been a more un-Presidential President than Obama? This country is severely divided so tell me which candidate Obama or Romney has the best opportunity to close the divide between people.

Μολὼν λαβέ · Oct 25, 2012

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shiang said:
But I would've voted for a monkey before I voted for Bush. .

So you did vote for Kerry...

Μολὼν λαβέ · Oct 25, 2012

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johnny_rebson said:
I was against Romney during the primaries for this very reason.

I guess I'm a flip-flopped too, then. I voted against Romney before I voted for him. And I cast my vote for POTuS last Tuesday. :thumbs:

Grim17 · Oct 25, 2012

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The people who are going to vote for Romney are the same people that re-elected Bush

Yup... But what choice did we have? Kerry was a) a freaking moron b) an asshat c) a joke d) all three previous choices.

I made it multiple choice in order to avoid the inevitable debate that would have broken out, about just how bad a choice Kerry actually was. :lol:

melons · Oct 25, 2012

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I am just thankful that all the same people who voted for Obama last time won't all vote for him this time.

upsideguy · Oct 25, 2012

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BACotner said:
Nice chart. The problem is that 60% of the jobs that were "created" during the past 2+ years are low wage jobs, while 60% of the jobs lost during the same time frame were medium wage jobs. To put it simply, people have lost jobs making over $50,000 per year and have taken jobs making under $40,000 per year. That has lowered the tax base for this country while at the same time the government is spending more and more. Bottom line is that when your income is reduced, the spending has to be reduced, not the opposite.

...and what is your cite for that? Just stating such does not make it so. Let's bring some evidence to support our allegations or stand down.

American · Oct 25, 2012

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shiang said:
I figured some people are very puzzled and the title is the simplest way I can put it.

Go ahead, prove me wrong and tell me who here voting for Romney didn't vote for Bush the 2nd time. ...and no, it doesn't count if you didn't vote in 2004.

Everyone reelecting Obama voted for him the first time.

Politicaladdict · Oct 25, 2012

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I was a life long Democrat.....I voted for Kerry......I will be voting for Romney.....so there ya go...you have been proven wrong

American · Oct 25, 2012

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Politicaladdict said:
I was a life long Democrat.....I voted for Kerry......I will be voting for Romney.....so there ya go...you have been proven wrong

Re-read my post, and you'll see I'm right.

Grim17 · Oct 25, 2012

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melons said:
I am just thankful that all the same people who voted for Obama last time won't all vote for him this time.

Speaking of which, I just saw the internals from a poll released this week (don't remember which one) that showed only 88% of likely black voters, were going to vote for Obama... The first though I had was "Gotta be a typo"... lol

Politicaladdict · Oct 25, 2012

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American said:
Re-read my post, and you'll see I'm right.

what post are you referring to? I was taking about the OP post :mrgreen:

Politicaladdict · Oct 25, 2012

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shiang said:
I guess a better question to Republicans would be. "Who would you vote for Bush or Obama?"

well in light of everything I would vote for a soup can over Obama.....and I was far from a Bush fan....and did not vote for Bush either time.

Grim17 · Oct 25, 2012

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American said:
Everyone reelecting Obama voted for him the first time.

I have my own thoughts and opinions about how this election will play out, but only one thing I believe with absolutely certainty...

That there will be far more people who voted for Obama in 2008, who will vote for Romney in this election, than there will be people who voted for someone besides Obama in 2008, that decide to vote for him this election.

The Man · Oct 25, 2012

I voted for Clinton in '96 (my first time voting at 18 years old), Gore in '00, Kerry in '04, Obama in '08, and I'm voting for Romney this year.

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