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3rd Party Presidential Debate...

What I really enjoyed was that they would actually answer questions, unlike the big two that just repeat talking points and work around answering questions so they can later flop or deny.
 
What I really enjoyed was that they would actually answer questions, unlike the big two that just repeat talking points and work around answering questions so they can later flop or deny.

Me too. What pisses me off about third party debates is that they always start off the same way. Bitching about the two party system. Don't get me wrong, it is a MAJOR problem but if you come off always sounding like a victim from the get go, people are going to look at you like you are a victim and not a leader. That's gotta stop. Put your issues at the forefront and then bitch about the unfairness on a lesser scale. At least that's my opinion.

I would've done my bitching by calling the two parties out rather than saying they are oppressing me. I'd call them cowards for not debating me. Show up at their campaign rallys trying to confront them into an on camera explanation why they won't debate me. Stuff like that. Get press that way.
 
After watching the debate, I found I lean more towards the green party. Unfortunately our federalism only allows for a republican or a democrat to win.
 
Me too. What pisses me off about third party debates is that they always start off the same way. Bitching about the two party system. Don't get me wrong, it is a MAJOR problem but if you come off always sounding like a victim from the get go, people are going to look at you like you are a victim and not a leader. That's gotta stop. Put your issues at the forefront and then bitch about the unfairness on a lesser scale. At least that's my opinion.

I would've done my bitching by calling the two parties out rather than saying they are oppressing me. I'd call them cowards for not debating me. Show up at their campaign rallys trying to confront them into an on camera explanation why they won't debate me. Stuff like that. Get press that way.

I agree with this. It's also interesting to start with the debate on something they all agree on. Oh well, still a great debate.
 
I agree but I think the CP is more outward about their intent but the GOP's notions are based in the same evangelical roots when it comes to social policies.

What it is is that the Republican Party has the Religious Right as a faction within it.

The Constitution Party wants to cater to just the Religious Right, and not bother with libertarian Republicans or Rockefeller Republicans.
 
After watching the debate, I found I lean more towards the green party. Unfortunately our federalism only allows for a republican or a democrat to win.

I'm voting for Jill Stein anyways, even if I am in a swing state.
 
I'm voting for Jill Stein anyways, even if I am in a swing state.

I desperately want to vote for Jill Stein, but I don't want Romney to win. If we truly had a democracy, she would have my vote.
 
I desperately want to vote for Jill Stein, but I don't want Romney to win. If we truly had a democracy, she would have my vote.

The best way to get Democrats to listen to you is to let them know what happens when they stop representing you.

And if the only way for them to get that message is for them to lose, the fault is with them, not you.
 
The best way to get Democrats to listen to you is to let them know what happens when they stop representing you.

And if the only way for them to get that message is for them to lose, the fault is with them, not you.

True...true. It's sad that our political system is not created for the people. I'm still having second thoughts. It was refreshing watching politicians be themselves at a debate, regardless of what people would think of them.
 
I like how it was carried by Al Jazeera and not by any major US networks.

AJ isn't nearly as bad of a news agency as we would like to think them to be as far as I can tell. They just show the things we really do not want shown so we demonize them.
 
A 30 minute highlights and discussion from Aljazeera's Inside Story:

The other parties - excluded but not silenced - Inside Story: US 2012 - Al Jazeera English


"Our federal government today ... is on an absolute unsustainable path, the results of which are going to be a monetary collapse unless we actually bring this under control. And as a third party I've been given the opportunity here to make the case that's not being made by either of the two major candidates."

- Gary Johnson, Libertarian Party

Rocky Anderson, the Justice Party presidential candidate, pointed out how constricted the debate had been between the Republicans and the Democrats.

"They are arguing about who is going to spend more on the military budget .... They're both trying to outdo each other in terms of who is going to drill more both offshore and on public lands. And neither of them even dares to talk about getting rid of this disastrous failed war on drugs, neither of them talks about catastrophic climate change and neither of them talks about poverty," he said.

On the War on Drugs, Johnson, a former governor of New Mexico, said he'd drunk alcohol and smoked marijuana and "I can categorically state that marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol". Jill Stein of the Greens said, "Marijuana is not illegal because it's dangerous; it's dangerous because it's illegal." Rocky Anderson called for an amnesty on those jailed for drug offenses.

"It was no surprise that much of the mainstream media failed to show up for the event as these candidates came to present an alternative vision for US domestic and foreign policy. Polls show that most US voters have not even heard of the third party candidates."
 
The best way to get Democrats to listen to you is to let them know what happens when they stop representing you.

And if the only way for them to get that message is for them to lose, the fault is with them, not you.

It's that kind of thinking that bought us eight years of George W. Bush.
 
It's that kind of thinking that bought us eight years of George W. Bush.

No. It's the fault of the two-party establishment that suppress third-party candidates that brought us eight years of George W. Bush.

Especially when the only alternative we had to George W. Bush after 4 years was John Kerry.
 
They said that college education should be free like secondary education. Well free is not free as Johnson pointed out. Primary and secondary education is paid by taxes and other means.
I do not agree that college should be free or on the backs of the taxpayers. Only about 30% or so go to college. I think Johnson had a good point. Use Lottery money for those who can't afford it or need some help and get the colleges and universities to do a cost comparison study or whatever its called to see what the real cost of college is.
Don't get me wrong I am not against higher education. It made me what I am today, but I paid most of my college cost myself and only had a very small loan to pay off at the end. My wife and I have been saving since our kids were born to send them through college and if 2008 had not happened we would have made it. My son is not able now to go to college because of his behavioral downslide here in the south, so God willin and the river don't rise we will be able to send my daughter to a very good "state" school in Wisconsin.
1. Get schools to reduce unnecessary costs, lowering tuition
2. Get real low interest rate loans which have a longer drop dead date
3. Encourage parents to save for their kids education.
4. Use lottery money to help those that need help
5. Make all college bound seniors aware of all the great scholarships and other mechanisms to pay for college. Not near enough information being given by HS's.
6. Help college kids find summer jobs to help pay for college.

This is not an end all proposition but it is better than having everyone pay for the ones who go to college.

You keep talking like this, and the liberals are going to throw you out of their club. :lol:
 
The Constitution Party wants theocracy, which may be a bit further than the GOP.

Their platform overstates that a bit, but I doubt they could come close to instituting such a thing. Besides it would conflict with other points in their platform such as no religious test to hold office (as stated in the Constitution). They are definitely Christian, but I don't think you'd be persecuted.......too much. :lol:
 
You keep talking like this, and the liberals are going to throw you out of their club. :lol:

ONE MORE TIME WITH FEELING I AM NOT A LIBERAL. I AM A MODERATE WITH LIBERAL LEANINGS. If you have seen any of my posts on penology or government spending you would know that. So I have no club to be kicked out of.
 
ONE MORE TIME WITH FEELING I AM NOT A LIBERAL. I AM A MODERATE WITH LIBERAL LEANINGS. If you have seen any of my posts on penology or government spending you would know that. So I have no club to be kicked out of.

You study Pen's? Never heard of that one, but to each his own.
 
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