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Romney - "a salesman and bull**** artist of the highest order"

AdamT said:
I can understand how conservatives can be opposed to Obama, but I cannot understand how they can actively support a con artist like Romney.
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Assuming the article is true (which I do not) the answer is in your statement above. If people were to support someone who lies instead of Obama, what does that tell you about Obama? BTW, the numbers do not add up (45% true/MT +28.8% false/MF leaves a pretty big gap. Shall we call that the Don't know what the heck Biden is talking about now %)
 
PeteEU said:
Hmm lets see. Check companies gutted by Romney and Bain, poverty in areas and unemployment.. and then crime rates.... could be quite a few. Not to mention his connections to south American death squads and their drug empires.... oh there are so many possibilities!
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LOL. That sounds like a good script for a Hollywood movie.
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
Obama is losing support and the reason is his handling of the attack and Libya. They were supposed to be our friends. Something is wrong and the American people know it.
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seems like obama's friends are the muslim brotherhood, ahmadinejad, chavez, Assad, and castro.
 
PeteEU said:
Hmm lets see. Check companies gutted by Romney and Bain, poverty in areas and unemployment.. and then crime rates.... could be quite a few. Not to mention his connections to south American death squads and their drug empires.... oh there are so many possibilities!
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Right Staples has done nothing but grow and hire more people. So have many other companies brought out of financial disaster by Bain, But the fact is that some companies were just not salvagable. Thats the way life works, not everyone wins, its not always fair.
 
Bobcat said:
seems like obama's friends are the muslim brotherhood, ahmadinejad, chavez, Assad, and castro.
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The muslim brotherhood are our friends. Al Queda is decimated and on the run. The economy is recovering. No one in the middle class is going to be taxed more. Gitmo is closed. Obama is smart. The Tea Party is racist.
 
Zyphlin said:
Yeah. One's badly dishonest and the other is really badly dishonest.

If thta was my only criteria in an election neither of them would get my vote. Thankfully, I don't live in an imaginary bubble where everything is clearly black and white with only one factor ever being present and thus that's not the singular decider for what my vote will be...nor will it be the singular honest deciding factor for hte majority of those that vote because almost NO ONE votes singularly on one factor and one factor alone.

Anyone claiming they support Obama due to him being honest is worthy of finger pointing and much laughing. Actually, that's the case with anyone making such a claim with the vast majority of politicians. When your politician is being dishonest more than 50% of the time and you're voting for him, forgive me if I roll my eyes when you start to complain about honesty issues of the other side.

Both sides are pretty ****ty when it comes to the issues of honesty. Shocker...who would've imagined that being the case in a political campaign
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The bottom line is that I have a pretty good idea who Obama is and what he stands for. He isn't going to change every time the wind shifts direction. In contrast, I have no idea who Romney really is or what he really stands for. Romney is a well-oiled weather vane.
 
AdamT said:
The bottom line is that I have a pretty good idea who Obama is and what he stands for. He isn't going to change every time the wind shifts direction. In contrast, I have no idea who Romney really is or what he really stands for. Romney is a well-oiled weather vane.
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Obama said he felt comfortable hanging with Marxist professors while at college.
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
Obama said he felt comfortable hanging with Marxist professors while at college.
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Even if that's true, so what? You want to elect someone who has no intellectual curiousity? Someone who isn't interested in learning about different viewpoints? No thanks.
 
AdamT said:
Even if that's true, so what? You want to elect someone who has no intellectual curiousity? Someone who isn't interested in learning about different viewpoints? No thanks.
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I want someone who is comfortable hanging around capitalists and learning how to create jobs.
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
I want someone who is comfortable hanging around capitalists and learning how to create jobs.
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I want someone who has a deeper understanding of the world than that. Someone who understands the pluses and minuses of each system and who can balance between them.
 
AdamT said:
I want someone who has a deeper understanding of the world than that. Someone who understands the pluses and minuses of each system and who can balance between them.
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Obama has a deeper understanding of the world than Romney?
 
Bobcat said:
it doesn't matter how you vote, hairy. Mississippi will give its electoral votes to Romney.
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yes, and California will give theirs to Obama.

That's why I'm not voting for either of the two bull(bleep!) artists. I'm voting for Gary Johnson.

who may also be a bull(bleep!) artist, but at least I can relate more to the platform of his party. Moreover, he has exactly zero chance of being elected, so when I begin to attack the new POTUS on this forum, no one can say, "but you voted for him!"
 
PeteEU said:
Hmm lets see. Check companies gutted by Romney and Bain, poverty in areas and unemployment.. and then crime rates.... could be quite a few. Not to mention his connections to south American death squads and their drug empires.... oh there are so many possibilities!
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Some of Bain successes on Romney's watch:

Staples -- Bain invested $600,000 in this new venture. In two years, they sold their stake for eight times their investment while helping to launch this successful company and provide tens of thousands of jobs.

Sports Authority -- Bain invested in this company when it had ten stores and was hungry for expansion. With Bain's help, they expanded, exponentially grew their number of stores and provided more than 14,000 jobs.

Steel Dynamics -- Bain invested $18 million, giving them the seed money they needed to raise the total $80 million they needed for expansion. Bain sold their stake for $104 million and left Steel Dynamics standing as the 5th largest producer of carbon steel products in the United States. They employ over 6,000 people at their manufacturing plants.

Bain Itself -- Over its 28-year history, Bain has boosted the income of the companies it backed by $105 billion creating thousands and thousands of jobs.

4 good things Bain Capital did on Mitt Romney's watch - The Week

To attack Bain, one must attack all private equity firms. Bain Capital isn't/wasn't a plunderer as has been portrayed. It was/is very successful at what it does. We know this to be fact, because, well, look who parks their cash there:

Government-worker pension funds are the chief beneficiaries of Bain’s economic stewardship. New York-based Preqin uses public documents, news accounts and Freedom of Information requests to track private-equity holdings. Since 2000, Preqin reports, the following funds have entrusted some $1.56 billion to Bain:

* Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund ($2.2 million)
* Indiana Public Retirement System ($39.3 million)
* Iowa Public Employees’ Retirement System ($177.1 million)
* The Los Angeles Fire and Police Pension System ($19.5 million)
* Maryland State Retirement and Pension System ($117.5 million)
* Public Employees’ Retirement System of Nevada ($20.3 million)
* State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio ($767.3 million)
* Pennsylvania State Employees’ Retirement System ($231.5 million)
* Employees’ Retirement System of Rhode Island ($25 million)
* San Diego County Employees Retirement Association ($23.5 million)
* Teacher Retirement System of Texas ($122.5 million)
* Tennessee Consolidated Retirement System ($15 million)

Look who parks their cash at Bain - NYPOST.com

As to your slur about Romney and South American death squads, please provide a credible link from major media.

More Bain successes: Clear Channel, Domino’s Pizza, Burger King, Sealy Corporation, Dunkin’ Donuts, Gymboree, Toys R Us, RJR Nabisco, Michael’s Craft Store, Burlington Coat Factory and Staples were among the companies supported or shored up by Bain: Familiar names to all of us who shop. Many more Bain companies were preserved (and/or strengthened) without taxpayer dollars. (Imagine THAT!!)

http://www.cleveland.com/sun/all/index.ssf/2012/08/bain_capital_success_stories_i.html
 
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Dittohead not! said:
yes, and California will give theirs to Obama.

That's why I'm not voting for either of the two bull(bleep!) artists. I'm voting for Gary Johnson.

who may also be a bull(bleep!) artist, but at least I can relate more to the platform of his party. Moreover, he has exactly zero chance of being elected, so when I begin to attack the new POTUS on this forum, no one can say, "but you voted for him!"
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You're a natural born politician.
 
AdamT said:
You seem to have missed a fairly obvious third option: if you can't support either candidate, support neither of them, or support a third candidate.

I don't care how much I hate the other guy -- I could never support a bull**** artist like Romney.
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Exactly how I think of Obama. But your rants about Romney are transparent and pretty weak. You've been stumping for Obama this whole time. Now you're calling in the third party sappers. Lame.
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
Obama has a deeper understanding of the world than Romney?
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I would think so. Romney has always been conventional. When students were protesting the Vietnam War, Romney protested the protesters.
 
AdamT said:
I want someone who has a deeper understanding of the world than that. Someone who understands the pluses and minuses of each system and who can balance between them.
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Well that isn't Obama, so are you honestly telling us you intend to vote third party and disappoint your idol?
 
clownboy said:
Exactly how I think of Obama. But your rants about Romney are transparent and pretty weak. You've been stumping for Obama this whole time. Now you're calling in the third party sappers. Lame.
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I support Obama -- no secret there. :shrug:
 
AdamT said:
I would think so. Romney has always been conventional. When students were protesting the Vietnam War, Romney protested the protesters.
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I don't see the connection. Sounds like BS to me.
 
AdamT said:
I support Obama -- no secret there. :shrug:
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You do more than that. You campaign for him, and that includes poisoning the other guy. Wouldn't have mattered if the other guy were Jesus Christ, you'd find a way to trash talk him. Just as you've been doing with Romney. Like I said, transparent, and lame.
 
Grim17 said:
Romney - "a salesman and bull**** artist of the highest order"

I think you mean Obama.... He's the one ho made all the promises he didn't keep.
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You and I both know that Romney just hasn't gotten the chance to not keep promises. His whole campaign is vague promises of "change" and "hope." Sound familiar?
 
Romney gets things done and has proven he gets things donen in govt also. Romney worked with a Democrat majority in Mass. Obama admitted he can't change Washington and everyone can see govt is deadlocked. The choice is obvious unless you're an idealogue.
 
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