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Why the Obama admin changed story on Benghazi to blame video 3 days after attack

I don't think the administration lied about the attack...I just think they were wrong.
( the movie had nothing to do with the attack, and there was no protest)

I think they should have simply stuck to a " we don't know yet, we'll investigate and find out the truth" stance.. instead of jumping the gun and blaming it on a protest over a movie.

I think they ran with the wrong story... probably with good intent... and I also think they were wrong to throw free speech under the bus.... but i won't argue they lied
 
American said:
You're wrong, and this is not going away. There will be congressional hearings.
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Yes, how many times have we heard this from the right over the last four years? Every half-assed, mostly manufactured "gate" is the worst ****up since Waterloo that will be investigated and ultimately result in Obama being drawn and quartered in the public square. Of course, since this is all delusion fed to the Koolaid drinkers, these witch hunts ultimately lead nowhere. Darrell Issa plods back to his lair to pull the wings off flies until the next false outrage fest.
 
obama did not want to admit to a terrorist attack on his watch this close to the election. Why?

1. he said that al qaeda had been virtually eliminated
2. he did not want to anger his muslim brouthers
3. he is totally naive and thinks that if we are nice to radical muslims they will begin to love us.
4. he and his administration are totally inept
5. he did not want to interfere with his visit to the View.
 
sharon said:
The movie had been sent to the ME about the first week in September.. It was a stink before the attack on the Consulate.
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any group of people that would murder others because of an amateur movie are truly sick. This is the real story here. The sickness that is radical islam
 
Bobcat said:
obama did not want to admit to a terrorist attack on his watch this close to the election. Why?

1. he said that al qaeda had been virtually eliminated
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No, he has never said that, although AQ's leadership in the Afghan/Pakistan region has been decimated, and there have been some major scores in Yemen and other outposts;

2. he did not want to anger his muslim brouthers
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Do you not see the jarring cognitive dissonance between your points No.1 and No.2?

3. he is totally naive and thinks that if we are nice to radical muslims they will begin to love us.
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Do you not see the jarring cognitive dissonance between your points No.3 and No.1?

4. he and his administration are totally inept

5. he did not want to interfere with his visit to the View.
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Partisan hackery in its most distilled form.
 
sharon said:
The 14 minute video clips were initially uploaded to YouTube in July 2012, under the titles The Real Life of Muhammad and Muhammad Movie Trailer.

Videos dubbed in the Arabic language were uploaded during early September 2012, and were promoted by Morris Sadek by email and on the blog of the National American Coptic Assembly.

On September 9, 2012, an excerpt of the YouTube video was broadcast on Al-Nas TV, an Egyptian Islamist television station.

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The objective was to demonize Muslims, blame the Israelis and incite the Egyptians.
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That's nice, but it has nothing to do with the fact that Obama was still blaming a movie 3 days after Intel knew it was a deliberate terrorist attack. Why?
 
AdamT said:
No, he has never said that, although AQ's leadership in the Afghan/Pakistan region has been decimated, and there have been some major scores in Yemen and other outposts;



Do you not see the jarring cognitive dissonance between your points No.1 and No.2?



Do you not see the jarring cognitive dissonance between your points No.3 and No.1?



Partisan hackery in its most distilled form.
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I think you're guilty of some partisan hackery yourself. What do you think?
 
AdamT said:
No, he has never said that, although AQ's leadership in the Afghan/Pakistan region has been decimated, and there have been some major scores in Yemen and other outposts;



Do you not see the jarring cognitive dissonance between your points No.1 and No.2?



Do you not see the jarring cognitive dissonance between your points No.3 and No.1?



Partisan hackery in its most distilled form.
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I get it Adam, you are a true supporter of obama no matter what he says or does, no matter how much of our money wastes, no matter how he screws up foreign policy, no matter that his priorities are the celebrity aspects of being president rather than the job of being president.

I get it, you will be in obama's corner until the end. Hopefully that is 3 weeks from now. What will you do then?
 
GhostlyJoe said:
The story certainly changed over time. How the intelligence developed isn't clear, but you seem to blithely leap to the most sinister possible interpretations. I think the attack was a tragedy. It's a dangerous time in a dangerous part of the world. But for some on the right, every story is about Obama. The narratives painted in this thread are symptomatic of that conservative contagion.

Let me add that an ideal administration would have ample security for any potential threat in any part of the world at any time, would have accurate and timely intelligence, and would communicate to the public openly as security allowed. This administration falls short of that ideal, as have all before it, to varying degrees. I can guarantee that a Romney administration will face similar crises, will not be able to prevent every tragedy and will have times when intelligence is murky and it's difficult to communicate with the public about complex political realities. And that administration -- should it come to pass -- will have gleeful detractors ready to pounce for every political advantage at each misstep, real or perceived. The Bush administration certainly faced such times.
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Its not a question of the lack of information that may exist right after such an incident. Its that Obama fabricated a ruse, a strawman, about the video. The truth, if they didn't know, would have been to just say so.

People died. Obama lied. To cover his ass.
 
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I know what you mean. Carney is saying one thing, Price another, Obama another, Hillary, another. Why all the confusion?
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Incompetence coupled with a refusal to acknowledge a terrorist attack this close to the election
 
Dusty Rhodes said:
Why all the confusion?
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because intelligence isn't perfect. remember, the previous administration sent us to war on incorrect intel, and it took the intelligence community ten years to find the most wanted and conspicuous man in the world.
 
Bobcat said:
Not according to obama, clinton, carney, rice, ABC, CBS. CNN, MSNBC, Biden, Pelosi, and the rest of the dems.
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they all changed their tune....not one of them still holds the position of the movie having anything to do with the attacks.
 
The Dems can't admit the obvious. Four Americans murdered in a terrorist attack on our consulate right before an election is bad. Blame it on a movie.

They're never going to admit this is what Obama did.
 
Bobcat said:
I get it Adam, you are a true supporter of obama no matter what he says or does, no matter how much of our money wastes, no matter how he screws up foreign policy, no matter that his priorities are the celebrity aspects of being president rather than the job of being president.

I get it, you will be in obama's corner until the end. Hopefully that is 3 weeks from now. What will you do then?
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What you don't seem to get is that you're supposed to respond to my post rather than falling back on pure ad hominem. Any comment on the total lack of internal consistency in the post I quoted?
 
Thrilla said:
they all changed their tune....not one of them still holds the position of the movie having anything to do with the attacks.
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true, they lied to the american people about it for 3 weeks or more.
 
Helix said:
because intelligence isn't perfect. remember, the previous administration sent us to war on incorrect intel, and it took the intelligence community ten years to find the most wanted and conspicuous man in the world.
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This has nothing to do with Bush. Why all the confusion in the administration with Carney, Rice, Obama, and Hillary all saying different things?
 
Bobcat said:
obama did not want to admit to a terrorist attack on his watch this close to the election. Why?

1. he said that al qaeda had been virtually eliminated
2. he did not want to anger his muslim brouthers
3. he is totally naive and thinks that if we are nice to radical muslims they will begin to love us.
4. he and his administration are totally inept
5. he did not want to interfere with his visit to the View.
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this should all emerge in the debate Mon. night, and more if The American people are to know the truth, I said Should,
 
AdamT said:
What you don't seem to get is that you're supposed to respond to my post rather than falling back on pure ad hominem. Any comment on the total lack of internal consistency in the post I quoted?
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No,, my comments were each stand-alone thoughts about why obama and his people either got it wrong or lied about it.
 
This President gambled on security with American lives and lost. He guards Valerie Jarret better than those who were murdered even after they begged for more security. This is a tragedy that could have been prevented and Obama is to blame.
 
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