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Conservatives hypocrites on Lybia attack.

j-mac said:
He did? All by himself?
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Yeah, that's what mak2 said. You haven't changed. Still looking to make people look the other way when you are 100% wrong. As I said once before, that was a whitty reply . . . whether it was half-whit or nit-whit, we will let the readers decide. Shame on you still fighting this way. After all this time you would have thought you would have learned something.
 
As much as you guys hate it, I am sure you guys were secretly rooting for OBL, but yes, Obama was CIC, It was his decision and his alone and the responsiblity was his and his alone. Had it went wrong it would still be the lead story on Fox news every night. The military did its job, and he is at the top of the chain of command. That is simply the facts.
j-mac said:
He did? All by himself?
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
Yeah, that's what mak2 said. You haven't changed. Still looking to make people look the other way when you are 100% wrong. As I said once before, that was a whitty reply . . . whether it was half-whit or nit-whit, we will let the readers decide. Shame on you still fighting this way. After all this time you would have thought you would have learned something.
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Nor have you old friend, when you have nothing, reply with personal attack....have fun with that...
 
AdamT said:
You are nuts. There is no question that he was referring to Benghazi. That's what he was speaking about -- not 9/11. :lol:

On September 12: "Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe. No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

Can you point out the 9/11 reference?

"On September 13, at a campaign event in Las Vegas, Obama vowed to bring the killers to justice. He then added, "No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America."
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If he was referring to it as a terror attack 2 days after the attack then the question remains why administration people were out spreading the meme that it was a spontaneous uprising due to a video tape for 12 more days. I submit that the most reasonable conclusion is that he was not referring to Benghazi as an act of terrorism in that speech because he was still clinging to the spin about it being a popular uprising at that point. Instead, he was just referring to terrorism in general.
 
James D Hill said:
I seem to remember a certen war that cost us thousands of American dead started on the lie that Saddam had nerve gas and radioactive material to make a dirty bomb. When called out on it the President said it was bad intellegence. Now the conservatives are going nutty over an attack that maybe or maybe not was caused by bad intellegence. I heard the President call it a terror attack the next day and the conservatives are screaming bloody murder. 4 dead is bad 4500 dead is much worse. Stop making political hay on a bad situation you conservative hypocrites. We stood by Bush during 9-11 so why not stand by this president during this mess?
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Actually, conservatives are not "going nutty" over an attack that maybe was or maybe not caused by bad intelligence. They are "going nutty" over a President who, along with his Sec. State, ignored intelligence and ignored requests from their own Ambassador for increased security.

I don't know about you, but to me that's a darn sight worse than acting on faulty intelligence.

Now, when you add to that the obvious and intentional acts to cover up the true nature of events and acts to avoid responsibility, what you have is a man who doesn't deserve, nor has the ability, to be a President.

That is who we have in Obama.
 
mak2 said:
As much as you guys hate it, I am sure you guys were secretly rooting for OBL, but yes, Obama was CIC, It was his decision and his alone and the responsiblity was his and his alone. Had it went wrong it would still be the lead story on Fox news every night. The military did its job, and he is at the top of the chain of command. That is simply the facts.
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Yep, he did give the order, one in which I don't think that ANY President, past, future, or real or imagined would have not given....Congradulations, Obama made the call that anyone would have made....You must be proud...
 
Bush lost thousands of lives on 9/11/01. Still unclear what intelligence he had beforehand, but if there was anything actionable, he shouldn't be sheltered.

On a completely unrelated topic, I don't think the concern should be whether or not the president used the word terrorism, but whether they knew it had nothing to do with the video during the two weeks it took them to come up with Clinton and then the president taking responsibility. I've sure heard the right claim that there is proof, but in googling and looking around, I'm having trouble coming up with anything reliable.

All that said, selling the video thing for weeks afterward was a bad move. The guys had rpgs, it happened on the anniversary of 9/11, and I have yet to see any information showing that there was ever a reliable basis for linking it to the video in the first place.

Even if the video thing had a basis, killing ambassadors and everything else going on was clearly terrorism. It doesn't matter what provoked it. Of course he said it was an act of terror. It was a bad move to focus on one word. It would be better to focus on showing how much info was available when.
 
AdamT said:
Can you point out the 9/11 reference?
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Can you point out the Benghazi reference? And can you then square that with the YouTube video he blamed for the attack over the next two weeks?
 
j-mac said:
Nor have you old friend, when you have nothing, reply with personal attack....have fun with that...
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It is no fun seeing your hypocrisy front and center. I have a long memory and remember much, but I won't hold you to your past. You do what Romney does everyday . . . government sucks until you need it. Personal attack? Now you are politically correct . . . that's funny.
 
Yes, I am proud of you for being able to say it. Good job.
j-mac said:
Yep, he did give the order, one in which I don't think that ANY President, past, future, or real or imagined would have not given....Congradulations, Obama made the call that anyone would have made....You must be proud...
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James D Hill said:
I seem to remember a certen war that cost us thousands of American dead started on the lie that Saddam had nerve gas and radioactive material to make a dirty bomb. When called out on it the President said it was bad intellegence. Now the conservatives are going nutty over an attack that maybe or maybe not was caused by bad intellegence. I heard the President call it a terror attack the next day and the conservatives are screaming bloody murder. 4 dead is bad 4500 dead is much worse. Stop making political hay on a bad situation you conservative hypocrites. We stood by Bush during 9-11 so why not stand by this president during this mess?
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You stood by Bush during 9/11? Hahahaah, let's see what did you all say about him when he didn't fly back into Washington, DC like an F-15 fighter jet guns-a-blazin'??? Yeah, I remember that kind of support.

Feinstein: Intelligence Mistake, Inadequate Security To Blame For Libyan Terror Attack « CBS San Francisco

When Feinstein says you're basically a ****-up, you must be pretty bad.
 
j-mac said:
Yep, he did give the order, one in which I don't think that ANY President, past, future, or real or imagined would have not given....Congradulations, Obama made the call that anyone would have made....You must be proud...
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Yep, even though he was advised by some in the room not too chance it, he pulled the trigger anyway. By your judgment, ALL presidents would have risked it. Just like ALL presidents would have invaded Iraq. Hindsight is 20:20 and you never need glasses.
 
mak2 said:
I hate to minimize lose of any life, but...Al Qaeda killed 4 people. Not exactly a demonstration of worldwide organizational strength. Some nut job in a theater can do worse than that. I think AQ is on the run. Insisting Obama did not say terror with the right tone in his voice is more of the RW outrage of the day sillyiness.
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It's not a question of the tone of his voice. It's a question of his refusal to acknowledge that his worldwide apology tour has failed to bring peace, love and flowers to the savages of the world. The jackals have seen the old bull stumble, and they are now looking for another chance.
 
mak2 said:
:roll: OK fine. Did you hear Obama got Osama?
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No, but I did hear that the SEALs got Osama when Obama's nervous nellie advisers couldn't find him on the golf course...
 
Diogenes said:
It's not a question of the tone of his voice. It's a question of his refusal to acknowledge that his worldwide apology tour has failed to bring peace, love and flowers to the savages of the world. The jackals have seen the old bull stumble, and they are now looking for another chance.
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Apology tour? Oh my . . . somethings never change. Just because the right-wing (not Republican) media says so it is. Lovely . . . it is so easy debating with this mind set . . . NOT!
 
In any major event the first reports are always wrong. Two weeks is not an unacceptable period of time to find the truth. The mindless outrage about this if from the right is pointless. If Obama had climbed to the top of the white house and screamed terrror attack until his voice failed there would still be 4 dead. So the raving is meaningless. By the way, he did call it a terror attack, kinda makes these ravings even sillier.
Diogenes said:
It's not a question of the tone of his voice. It's a question of his refusal to acknowledge that his worldwide apology tour has failed to bring peace, love and flowers to the savages of the world. The jackals have seen the old bull stumble, and they are now looking for another chance.
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Diogenes said:
No, but I did hear that the SEALs got Osama when Obama's nervous nellie advisers couldn't find him on the golf course...
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No matter how many times you guys are proven wrong you stick to your guns . . . it would be admirable if it wasn't so dysfunctional.
 
Do you know what a chain of command is? And I dont beleive he was on the golf course. IF you guys had any creditablity these kind of things would completely take it away. Nerveous Nellie, great debate techniques. :(
Diogenes said:
No, but I did hear that the SEALs got Osama when Obama's nervous nellie advisers couldn't find him on the golf course...
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
Lovely . . . it is so easy debating with this mind set . . . NOT!
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Since you have nothing to bring to the discussion, I agree that it is a waste of your time to post and a waste of my time to read your posts. Goodbye.
 
Diogenes said:
Since you have nothing to bring to the discussion, I agree that it is a waste of your time to post and a waste of my time to read your posts. Goodbye.
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Yes, because your responses are filled with an unending supply of knowledge. Do you even read your own words? I swear, not one of you have changed since 2003, despite all the evidence that has proven you wrong. It is as if you all never posted on the Stopper.
 
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mak2 said:
In any major event the first reports are always wrong. Two weeks is not an unacceptable period of time to find the truth.
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You do realize, don't you, that State Dept. execs claimed - under oath - that they watched and listened in real time as the attack progressed? That they knew there was no demonstration? That Obama sent his flying monkeys out to spread a rumor about a video that none of them believed?

It is acceptable to withhold comment until the facts are known. It is not acceptable to deliberately spread lies.
 
DiavoTheMiavo said:
Yep, even though he was advised by some in the room not too chance it, he pulled the trigger anyway. By your judgment, ALL presidents would have risked it. Just like ALL presidents would have invaded Iraq. Hindsight is 20:20 and you never need glasses.
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Your right...Gore or Kerry probably wouldn't have pulled the trigger. Obama deserves SOME credit for killing bin Laden.
 
mak2 said:
And I dont beleive he was on the golf course.
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Your beliefs do not interest me. You are entitled to your own religion.
 
Why do you get to babble on and I am not allowed my points? Do you have any evidence Obama was on the golf course ignoring his duties as POTUS, or is this another mindless outrage?
Diogenes said:
Your beliefs do not interest me. You are entitled to your own religion.
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