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Does Romney support more gun control or not?

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He said that he "didn't support new legislation", but then said that the Massachusetts AWB was "legislation we need".

I hope Gary Johnson nails him on this.
 
Yeah, I wasn't satisfied with his response either.

He bombed - no pun intended.

I'm very disappointed, especially with his position on "gun control."
 
Gary Johnson needs to tear into Romney on this subject.

JOHNSON 2012
 
Apparently Romney doesn't grasp the concept of the Second Amendment..

Not going to change my vote, but I thought his position and understanding on the issue was absurd. If I was in his shoes I would have attempted to briefly explain the Second Amendment.
 
typical ronmney answer he is for and against it depending on the adience. When he doesn't have a specific audience he has to be both for and against it at the same time and hope people don't realize he completely avoided giving any definitive answer.
 
How about pointing out the utter failure of the "assault rifle ban" when confronted with it?

To be frank, I think Romney doesn't agree with the pro-second amendment position and so I don't think he understood how to argue the point. He is probably not far off from Obama. Unfortunately for him, he gets the stigma attached to the conservative position on gun without the info to refute it.
 
Republic Now! said:
How about pointing out the utter failure of the "assault rifle ban" when confronted with it?

To be frank, I think Romney doesn't agree with the pro-second amendment position and so I don't think he understood how to argue the point. He is probably not far off from Obama. Unfortunately for him, he gets the stigma attached to the conservative position on gun without the info to refute it.
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This is a pathetic position for pro-Second Amendment voters to be in.
 
Well Romney at least thinks it's a bad idea to ship thousands of assault weapons to Mexican drug lords whereas Obama won't even address it.
 
Strucky said:
Well Romney at least thinks it's a bad idea to ship thousands of assault weapons to Mexican drug lords whereas Obama won't even address it.
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Nice dodge.

What will Romney do on domestic gun control?
 
Einzige said:
Nice dodge.

What will Romney do on domestic gun control?
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I think he addressed it in the debate....I'm more interested in knowing why Obama won't address Fast & Furious.
 
obunny lost this exchange. Obunny has tried very hard to hide and run away from his anti gun record before he became president. He has now endorsed the idiotic Clinton gun ban and admitted that this gun ban he wants to reimpose does not deal with most criminal misuse of weapons. But the fact that he endorsed one of the most moronic and ineffective laws ever passed-a law that most likely would be now struck down as unconstitutional is one that is going to haunt him

the NRA has been blasting obama tangentially-such as his record 10 years ago or his Supreme Court appointments but there was almost nothing he has said or done in the last four years that really gave them ammunition

now there is-he wants the idiotic clinton scary looking gun ban back
 
Again: I don't care what Obama's going to do on guns. I'm not voting for the man.

Romney's trying to appeal to me, as a pro-gun rights voter. So I want to know if he backs a ban, like he said tonight, or if he opposes one, like he said tonight.
 
I'd like to see this, too.
 
Einzige said:
He said that he "didn't support new legislation", but then said that the Massachusetts AWB was "legislation we need".

I hope Gary Johnson nails him on this.
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Gary Johnson is irrelevent. Get over it.
 
American said:
Gary Johnson is irrelevent. Get over it.
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It must be really upsetting to you to know you'll be voting for an arch-liberal in November.
 
Einzige said:
Again: I don't care what Obama's going to do on guns. I'm not voting for the man.

Romney's trying to appeal to me, as a pro-gun rights voter. So I want to know if he backs a ban, like he said tonight, or if he opposes one, like he said tonight.
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Yes, according to him.

He was dancing around the MA AWB, and it was total BS,
He exclaimed that he had both pro and anti gunners on board, so it was OK to sign.
He can't have his feet in both camps at the same time.
 
SMTA said:
Yes, according to him.

He was dancing around the MA AWB, and it was total BS,
He exclaimed that he had both pro and anti gunners on board, so it was OK to sign.
He can't have his feet in both camps at the same time.
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It would be lovely to get a clarification from (ostensibly pro-gun) Romney supporters.
 
Romney said he is not in favor of new federal legislation on guns or taking guns away and does not want to make certain guns illegal. Obama wants to bring back the so-called "assault weapons" ban.
 
Porchev said:
Romney said he is not in favor of new federal legislation on guns or taking guns away and does not want to make certain guns illegal.
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Then why did Romney say, and I quote, that the Assault Weapons Ban is the "legislation we need"?
 
Einzige said:
Then why did Romney say, and I quote, that the Assault Weapons Ban is the "legislation we need"?
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Was he talking about the federal assault weapons ban at the time? Romney is not for bringing back the federal assault weapons ban like Obama is (as Obama clearly said last night). Back as Gov, Romney was for some restrictions at the state level...a state not known for conservatism and I think as a businessman, he knows the art of compromise so he signed into law something that was a compromise that could be passed. Which is good, because it shows he will not shut out the other party, that way things can perhaps get done.

Some info on that:
During Romney’s term he signed several pieces of firearms regulation. A look at that regulation does not reveal an anti-gun Romney. Those bills are characterized as “net gains” for gun owners in a state where opinioned is weighed against them.

During his tenure, Gov. Romney was credited with several improvements to state laws, including protections for shooting clubs, restoration of the Inland Fish and Game Fund, and requirements that all new hunters pass a hunter safety course. He is also credited with relaxing manufacturing testing for some models of pistols.

In 2004, Gov. Romney signed a firearms reform bill that made permanent the ban on assault weapons as well as clarified and insured other rights and responsibilities for gun owners. It was a hard-fought compromise between interest groups on both sides of the issue. The NRA Gun Owners’ Action League, law enforcement, and Massachusetts gun owners endorsed the bill.
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Porchev said:
Was he talking about the federal assault weapons ban at the time? Romney is not for bringing back the federal assault weapons ban like Obama is (as Obama clearly said last night).
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I have no idea. It certainly sounded like it, but Romney's so bad at clarifying his ideas that I couldn't tell you either way. But the impression I had, and the libertarians I was watching the debate with had, is that Romney endorsed a nationwide Assault Weapons Ban.

I reject compromise on this issue.
 
Strucky said:
Well Romney at least thinks it's a bad idea to ship thousands of assault weapons to Mexican drug lords whereas Obama won't even address it.
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FYI, for those konservatives who still lack a kindergardener-level (Limbaughesque) knowledge of the world. . .El Chapo Guzman has enough connections around the whole planet to buy automatic guns illegally any time he wants, so Fast-and-Furious wouldn't have made 1 billionth of a difference.
 
Einzige said:
I have no idea. It certainly sounded like it, but Romney's so bad at clarifying his ideas that I couldn't tell you either way. But the impression I had, and the libertarians I was watching the debate with had, is that Romney endorsed a nationwide Assault Weapons Ban.

I reject compromise on this issue.
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Believe it or not, I like libertarians because I am not a social conservative, but I am not voting for a third party in Presidential elections. Whether it is Perot or Nader or whoever, it just doesn't help. Like it or not, the system is set-up for two major parties, and that works pretty good, because it forces both parties not to get extreme.

Anyway, I went back and watched part of the gun area of the debate again, and it seems clear Obama wants the assault weapons ban back and Romney doesn't want new legislation, he just wants to stick with the current federal laws.
 
Einzige said:
Again: I don't care what Obama's going to do on guns. I'm not voting for the man.

Romney's trying to appeal to me, as a pro-gun rights voter. So I want to know if he backs a ban, like he said tonight, or if he opposes one, like he said tonight.
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What is your concern about the Massachusetts law? Which specific provisions of the Massachusetts law concerns you?
 
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