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Does Romney support more gun control or not?

haymarket said:
Keeping with your theme, can you also tell us where Jimmy Hoffa is buried and what happened to Judge Crater?
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Its absolutely amazing. YOu obviously don't even read the posts of people you disagree with. That is the only possible explanation for such a non responsive and silly post
 
Federalist said:
It is perfectly reasonable to oppose a politician based upon opposition to his policies.
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or because his biggest shills are dishonest and irrational
 
TurtleDude said:
especially when he lies about people like me and wants to take more from me and my family to buy the votes of the scummy parasites who support him.
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America, America God shed his grace on thee.......

or perhaps just 1% of us?

And the next line has that disturbing commie nonsense about "brotherhood" whatever the hell that is suppose to mean.
 
TurtleDude said:
Its absolutely amazing. YOu obviously don't even read the posts of people you disagree with. That is the only possible explanation for such a non responsive and silly post
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Oh I read the ramblings of extremist fantasy all right. I was simply trying to match you in the spirit of it all.

But then, you are too bright not to realize that.
 
haymarket said:
America, America God shed his grace on thee.......

or perhaps just 1% of us?
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I don't believe in God. your attempt to use a myth to justify taking the wealth of those who earned it to buy the votes of the parasites who think they are entitled to it is not convincing to me. I have no duty to fund the grace you seem to think you deserve
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't believe in God. your attempt to use a myth to justify taking the wealth of those who earned it to buy the votes of the parasites who think they are entitled to it is not convincing to me. I have no duty to fund the grace you seem to think you deserve
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What you believe in does not interest me. Never has. Never will. you can believe in 250 foot tall purple easter Bunnies dispensing rights to the freedom loving for all I care. It matters not.

Perhaps you did not recognize the words from the start of AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL?

And why am I not surprised? :roll:
 
Caine said:
That is why I shall be voting for Gary Johnson.

Regardless of whether he loses or not.
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Then you may as well sit this one out. Your vote won't count.
 
haymarket said:
Its all over this site. Look at your friend Turtle - he would not vote for anybody but Romney simply because of his abject absolute complete and total hate for Obama. And despite his love affair with all things firearms, nothing Romney says in a national debate will change that.

And our friend Turtle is but one very obvious example. It is evident here in spades. The right wing hates Obama with passion not seen in many presidents.
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You claimed that right wingers would vote for Romney "because Obama is Obama and that is an unforgivable sin in their extremist eyes". Please provide a quote of someone saying that Obama being Obama is an unforgivable sin, or retract your claim.
 
Einzige said:
I have no idea. It certainly sounded like it, but Romney's so bad at clarifying his ideas that I couldn't tell you either way. But the impression I had, and the libertarians I was watching the debate with had, is that Romney endorsed a nationwide Assault Weapons Ban.

I reject compromise on this issue.
Compromise is voting for a candidate who may get 1% of the popular vote.
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Einzige said:
It must be really upsetting to you to know you'll be voting for an arch-liberal in November.
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A noob like you obviously hasn't been around here long enough to know how I feel. I'll let you search that out for yourself, about who I wanted as a candidate. You're not nearly as smart as you think. There is more to politics than just ideology. Having conservative principles is great, but Johnson was irrelevent almost from the beginning. There were lots of Johnson lovers around here as I remember. It's doesn't matter if he can't get elected, or get any policies through. There are things I like about Ron Paul, but Paul doesn't bother to educate his audience so they never understand him.
 
haymarket said:
Keeping with your theme, can you also tell us where Jimmy Hoffa is buried and what happened to Judge Crater?
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Sorry....but I think I just got a glimpse of haymarket's face while making these posts......

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Μολὼν λαβέ;1061035505 said:
Then you may as well sit this one out. Your vote won't count.
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I am sorry... but..... my Governor, Judge, State Legislature, and U.S. House of Rep elections are now held on a different day?

I was not aware of that...... I'll have to go check...

/sarcasm

Oh, I forgot... County Commissioner and City Council as well.

Not to mention State Auditor, State Insurance Comissioner, etc,etc...
 
American said:
A noob like you obviously hasn't been around here long enough to know how I feel. I'll let you search that out for yourself, about who I wanted as a candidate. You're not nearly as smart as you think. There is more to politics than just ideology. Having conservative principles is great, but Johnson was irrelevent almost from the beginning. There were lots of Johnson lovers around here as I remember. It's doesn't matter if he can't get elected, or get any policies through. There are things I like about Ron Paul, but Paul doesn't bother to educate his audience so they never understand him.
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Im sorry.... but even when my local libertarian-conservative talk radio hosts are making fun of Romney for the insane amount of position changing he has been doing, I'll vote for someone I believe in who will lose before I will vote for some guy who changes his positions as often as I change socks...


Apparently you guys expect me to be the political equivalent of a Yankees bandwagon fan.
 
Caine said:
I am sorry... but..... my Governor, Judge, State Legislature, and U.S. House of Rep elections are now held on a different day?

I was not aware of that...... I'll have to go check...

/sarcasm

Oh, I forgot... County Commissioner and City Council as well.

Not to mention State Auditor, State Insurance Comissioner, etc,etc...
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God forbid you don't vote for your insurance commissioner. Are you pissing that vote away too?
 
haymarket said:
Just look a couple of posts up - #35 - from Turtle himself. Even Ray Charles could see it. And he is both blind and dead.

Of course, we also have the time tested wisdom that there are none so blind as he who will not see. So if you want to canoe down the river named Denial, enjoy your trip.
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Post #35 from Turtle says this:
TurtleDude said:
wrong again. Obama has in the past

1) supported a complete ban on handguns

2) voted against a law that prevents anti gun mayors from suing gun makers for "crime"

3) supported the clinton "assault weapon ban"

4) appointed a woman who was well established as a hard core gun rights hater to the USSC

5) appointed another woman whose background is almost guaranteed to lead her to anti gun decisions.

6) supported "fast and furious" , a scheme designed to manufacture evidence to be used against American gun rights.


many of his inner circle are hard core gun haters such as former consigliere Rahm Emanuel
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Where does it say that he will vote for Romney "because Obama is Obama and that is an unforgivable sin" in his eyes. Once again you have proven impotent to substantiate your claim. When are you going to do the decent thing and retract it?
 
Federalist said:
Post #35 from Turtle says this:


Where does it say that he will vote for Romney "because Obama is Obama and that is an unforgivable sin" in his eyes. Once again you have proven impotent to substantiate your claim. When are you going to do the decent thing and retract it?
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NOte: Haymarket doesn't even try to discuss or refute my points. So much for "Debate" that we always are lectured about
 
haymarket said:
Just look a couple of posts up - #35 - from Turtle himself. Even Ray Charles could see it. And he is both blind and dead.

Of course, we also have the time tested wisdom that there are none so blind as he who will not see. So if you want to canoe down the river named Denial, enjoy your trip.
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Joking about a blind man. Listen to the man of tolerance here.
 
Federalist said:
You claimed that right wingers would vote for Romney "because Obama is Obama and that is an unforgivable sin in their extremist eyes". Please provide a quote of someone saying that Obama being Obama is an unforgivable sin, or retract your claim.
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there are none so blind as they who WILL NOT see.

Ray Charles can see it by a simple review of this thread and others. And Ray is both dead and blind.

You can whine all you want about begging me to retract - it is not going to happen. Live with it or not, like it or not, it matters not to me in the slightest
 
American said:
Joking about a blind man. Listen to the man of tolerance here.
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Actually I do not think his feelings have been hurt as the died a bit ago.
 
TurtleDude said:
NOte: Haymarket doesn't even try to discuss or refute my points. So much for "Debate" that we always are lectured about
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You would first have to make some actual points before they can even begin to be refuted.

When that happens I will be glad to destroy them in the normal and usual manner.
 
Caine said:
Sorry....but I think I just got a glimpse of haymarket's face while making these posts......

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You lean says it all. Nothing more need to be added to your own confession.
 
haymarket said:
Its all over this site. Look at your friend Turtle - he would not vote for anybody but Romney simply because of his abject absolute complete and total hate for Obama. And despite his love affair with all things firearms, nothing Romney says in a national debate will change that.

And our friend Turtle is but one very obvious example. It is evident here in spades. The right wing hates Obama with passion not seen in many presidents.
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And look at yourself and others on the left … God could come down and run on the Republican ticket and you wouldn’t vote for him, your hatred shows just as strongly in your posts as any of those on the right. That makes you different from them how ???
 
haymarket said:
You would first have to make some actual points before they can even begin to be refuted.

When that happens I will be glad to destroy them in the normal and usual manner.
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lets see you would destroy them by making the apples to cinderblock analogy or pretend you never had taken a position in the past but would demand we search your 25,000 posts to find out what you believe.

No I don't think you have ever destroyed anyones points. Feel free to post some examples though
 
Federalist said:
Post #35 from Turtle says this:


Where does it say that he will vote for Romney "because Obama is Obama and that is an unforgivable sin" in his eyes. Once again you have proven impotent to substantiate your claim. When are you going to do the decent thing and retract it?
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look at the current thread - why conservatives hate Obama - where he posts many times.... the very title of the thread speaks to the feelings.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...46-why-do-conservatives-hate-president-9.html

one right winger attempts to gloss it over with this

I have, however, seen many say "I hate everything he stands for and everything he does.
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the first word of the Turtle reply standing alone on a line all by itself


exactly
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The frequent fifth grade name calling of adding silly juvenile words like turd and tard to the name of Obama show a level of hate that is palpable.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/120498-more-offensive-obama-rush-5.html

Obama's a turd pure and simple
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Not exactly a nuanced statement about a policy difference now is it?

The same thread gives us this intellectual brainstorm

Obama is AIDS
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Ah yes, Obama is a disease that kills. But he does not hate the man. Right. :roll:

One cannot separate hate for the man by saying they simply hate a whole bunch of things which make the man. They are one and the same.



He is careful to provide a false cover for himself by saying he does not hate Obama as a person - just his presidency, his administration, his party, his politics and his policies for the four years in thread after thread after thread.

As Elvis Presley might have once warbled - thats a whole lotta hatin going on.

there is much more if you simply care to open your eyes.
 
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I have given rational reasons why I want Obama to lose. Apparently some of his supporters ignore the reality
 
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