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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    So it is not the Obama Administration but Saudi Arabia and Qatar, whom we support? And the arms SA and Qatar are getting is from us?

    The largest arms dealers in the world are the 5 permanent members of the UN.
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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    In a speech at the Virginia Military Institute last Monday, Mr. Romney said he would ensure that rebel groups “who share our values” would “obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters and fighter jets.” That suggests he would approve the transfer of weapons like antiaircraft and antitank systems that are much more potent than any the United States has been willing to put into rebel hands so far, precisely because American officials cannot be certain who will ultimately be using them.

    But Mr. Romney stopped short of saying that he would have the United States provide those arms directly, and his aides said he would instead rely on Arab allies to do it. That would leave him, like Mr. Obama, with little direct control over the distribution of the arms.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/wo...anted=all&_r=0
    So I disagree with both candidates on what we should be doing to aid countries in the midst of civil unrest.
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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    So it is not the Obama Administration but Saudi Arabia and Qatar, whom we support?
    Well, as the NYT article states, SA and Q are distributing the second hand small arms supplied by the US.....which are finding their way to jihadists....who are probably doing the main fighting against Assad.
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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So I disagree with both candidates on what we should be doing to aid countries in the midst of civil unrest.
    Since Assad is in charge still, we could not get the humanitarian supplies you want distributed to the forces opposing Assad with any certainty, much less so than small arms, since those items are generally tougher to smuggle in significant quantities......and if any ended up "in the wrong hands" we would still have the hardliners on your side going off the deep end about that...just as they are doing now.
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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Well, as the NYT article states, SA and Q are distributing the second hand small arms supplied by the US.....which are finding their way to jihadists....who are probably doing the main fighting against Assad.
    “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats,” the Times reports.
    That's about as damning as it gets

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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The article comes from an organisation set up by this guy.

    It's slightly amusing that Bronson and Hicup are taking it so seriously without knowing who's behind it.
    When you can't dispute the facts, try and attack the source /yawn

    “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats,” the Times reports.

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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Well, as the NYT article states, SA and Q are distributing the second hand small arms supplied by the US.....which are finding their way to jihadists....who are probably doing the main fighting against Assad.
    I had just edited to reflect that. Just to point out again, the largest arms dealers in the world are the 5 permanent members of the UN.
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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    That's about as damning as it gets
    Except, it isn't ....since it doesn't support your premise.

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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Since Assad is in charge still, we could not get the humanitarian supplies you want distributed to the forces opposing Assad with any certainty, much less so than small arms, since those items are generally tougher to smuggle in significant quantities......and if any ended up "in the wrong hands" we would still have the hardliners on your side going off the deep end about that...just as they are doing now.
    Yes, but food, medical supplies, and clothing will not kill people completely outside of the conflict. Weapons will.
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    Re: Fail: Obama Administration Provides Weapons to Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Yes, but food, medical supplies, and clothing will not kill people completely outside of the conflict. Weapons will.
    Well now you are talking about supporting the Assad regime. That is not what we want to do.
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