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Oil and Gas Production is Falling Under Obama

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Another Obama lie, debunked.

In reality, data shows that oil and gas production is actually falling on federal lands. Offshore oil production was the lowest since 2008, and natural gas production on federal lands was the lowest since 2003. Coal production on federal lands has fallen as well. Coal production was the lowest since 2006. Energy Information Administration also reports that 2011 had the highest average price for gasoline in U.S. history, and 2009-2011 has seen the highest average real electricity prices since the early 1990s.


Oil and Gas Production is Falling Under Obama - On Energy (usnews.com)
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Ah, an editorial by Daniel Kish, senior vice president at the Institute for Energy Research -- a right wing drill-baby-drill group funded by the Koch brothers and big oil! I'm sure he wouldn't lie.

The report he references is almost 350 pages long, but a quick glimpse shows that petroleum production on federal and indian lands in 2010 was the highest, by far, of any year going back to 2003. More to come....
 
AdamT said:
Ah, an editorial by Daniel Kish, senior vice president at the Institute for Energy Research -- a right wing drill-baby-drill group funded by the Koch brothers and big oil! I'm sure he wouldn't lie.

The report he references is almost 350 pages long, but a quick glimpse shows that petroleum production on federal and indian lands in 2010 was the highest, by far, of any year going back to 2003. More to come....
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Daniel Kish is a liar.......

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I think the issue is "on federal lands" not production as a whole.
 
Fisher said:
I think the issue is "on federal lands" not production as a whole.
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There are some 4-5,000 Federal Land permits waiting.

The safety regs are more demanding.
 
sharon said:
There are some 4-5,000 Federal Land permits waiting.

The safety regs are more demanding.
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Not taking sides, just trying to clarify the issue. If I wanted to criticize Obama on oil, I would do it on the mishandling of the BP oil spill by administration officials prohibiting the company from doing what they ultimately had to do to stop the thing (ripping out the well head) until every other scenario that could be dreamed up was tried and failed first.
 
Fisher said:
Not taking sides, just trying to clarify the issue. If I wanted to criticize Obama on oil, I would do it on the mishandling of the BP oil spill by administration officials prohibiting the company from doing what they ultimately had to do to stop the thing (ripping out the well head) until every other scenario that could be dreamed up was tried and failed first.
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What do you mean "ripping out the well head"?
 
There are sources out there on the web if you should desire that will recount that whole event from beginning to end.

But for the poiltics, even the LA Times has pointed out the Administration has been lacking post tragedy

2010 Deepwater Horizon tragedy: Missing the message - Los Angeles Times

"A year ago this week, the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling issued its final report, recommending sweeping changes in the way industry and government manage offshore oil drilling. The bipartisan panel made 30 broad recommendations aimed at improving the safety of offshore drilling, safeguarding the environment, strengthening oil spill response, advancing well containment capabilities and ensuring financial responsibility.

"But few of the recommendations have been implemented. Congress has taken no action at all. And after making only modest reforms, many of which were cosmetic (e.g. reshuffling and renaming the dysfunctional Minerals Management Service), the Obama administration is again charging forward with plans to expand offshore drilling. Given the Deepwater Horizon tragedy, and recent offshore spills by Chevron in Brazil, ConocoPhillips in China and Shell in Nigeria, you would expect the oil industry and U.S. government to take such risk much more seriously. Unfortunately, it seems that ignorance and wishful thinking are more politically convenient than honestly dealing with risk."
 
Fisher said:
There are sources out there on the web if you should desire that will recount that whole event from beginning to end.

But for the poiltics, even the LA Times has pointed out the Administration has been lacking post tragedy

2010 Deepwater Horizon tragedy: Missing the message - Los Angeles Times

"A year ago this week, the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling issued its final report, recommending sweeping changes in the way industry and government manage offshore oil drilling. The bipartisan panel made 30 broad recommendations aimed at improving the safety of offshore drilling, safeguarding the environment, strengthening oil spill response, advancing well containment capabilities and ensuring financial responsibility.

"But few of the recommendations have been implemented. Congress has taken no action at all. And after making only modest reforms, many of which were cosmetic (e.g. reshuffling and renaming the dysfunctional Minerals Management Service), the Obama administration is again charging forward with plans to expand offshore drilling. Given the Deepwater Horizon tragedy, and recent offshore spills by Chevron in Brazil, ConocoPhillips in China and Shell in Nigeria, you would expect the oil industry and U.S. government to take such risk much more seriously. Unfortunately, it seems that ignorance and wishful thinking are more politically convenient than honestly dealing with risk."
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How do you "rip out a well head" a mile underwater?

BTW.. my brother worked on that report.

Obama is not responsible for Deepwter Horizon or its aftermath.
 
AdamT said:
Ah, an editorial by Daniel Kish, senior vice president at the Institute for Energy Research -- a right wing drill-baby-drill group funded by the Koch brothers and big oil! I'm sure he wouldn't lie.

The report he references is almost 350 pages long, but a quick glimpse shows that petroleum production on federal and indian lands in 2010 was the highest, by far, of any year going back to 2003. More to come....
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Why do you include indiana lands which are not subject to Federal Law?

Fells a little slippery.
 
sharon said:
There are some 4-5,000 Federal Land permits waiting.

The safety regs are more demanding.
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And millions of dollars of uncollected fees, fines and violations.
 
sharon said:
Daniel Kish is a liar.......

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No, he's not lying. To falsely accuse people of lying is reckless and irresponsible.

Kish was talking about oil production on federal lands. The graph you put up is of all US production, federal lands and private lands.

Obama has no control of private lands, so it is in spite of his policies that US production of oil over all is up.
 
sharon said:
There are some 4-5,000 Federal Land permits waiting.

The safety regs are more demanding.
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Thank you for admitting that government regulations are slowing down drilling and exploration on Federal lands.
 
wolfman24 said:
And millions of dollars of uncollected fees, fines and violations.
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The fees aren't being collected, because the permits and leases aren't being released.
 
apdst said:
The fees aren't being collected, because the permits and leases aren't being released.
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UM Incorrect. Since the Reagan Admin and right up until now there are millions of dollars of uncollected land fees, resource fees, range fees, mineral fees, fines and penalties which have not been collected. By law they do not have an expiration date and simply continue to acrue.
Nor has Congress authorized the increase for range and grazing fees they agreed to during the Clinton administration which would have brought Millions more into the federal coffers. This is not a Dem/Rep issue. It is a matter or our Congress and leaders not have the backbone to do what the law says they must.
Believe what you like.
 
wolfman24 said:
UM Incorrect. Since the Reagan Admin and right up until now there are millions of dollars of uncollected land fees, resource fees, range fees, mineral fees, fines and penalties which have not been collected. By law they do not have an expiration date and simply continue to acrue.
Nor has Congress authorized the increase for range and grazing fees they agreed to during the Clinton administration which would have brought Millions more into the federal coffers. This is not a Dem/Rep issue. It is a matter or our Congress and leaders not have the backbone to do what the law says they must.
Believe what you like.
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Which basically has nothing to do with the topic. yes?

That being said, of course congress critters aren't going to go around beating up poor ol' livestock farmers for grazing fees. That would be political suicide.
 
apdst said:
Which basically has nothing to do with the topic. yes?

That being said, of course congress critters aren't going to go around beating up poor ol' livestock farmers for grazing fees. That would be political suicide.
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Yes and no. first point. Part of the discussion is about revenues yes?
Second. Although I agree that there are some "poor ole farmers/ranchers out there the majority basede on the USDOI are not. Whether collecting these monies would be poltical suicide is problematic. The IRS collects fines and fees after "negotiations" are done, this would be roughly the same. Save the mom and pops but make the big bad cheaters pay. Again I agree it is not going to happen but for different reasons.
 
wolfman24 said:
Yes and no. first point. Part of the discussion is about revenues yes?
Second. Although I agree that there are some "poor ole farmers/ranchers out there the majority basede on the USDOI are not. Whether collecting these monies would be poltical suicide is problematic. The IRS collects fines and fees after "negotiations" are done, this would be roughly the same. Save the mom and pops but make the big bad cheaters pay. Again I agree it is not going to happen but for different reasons.
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The topic is oil and gas production Federal dirt.
 
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