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Why we vote for liars

ChrisL said:
Not naming names huh? :2razz: Now, you've piqued my curiosity!
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As i said. I do not what this part of the thread to degenerate into a no he didn't yes he did which I beleive is exactly what will happen. One guy was national and the other was very local and so nobody not from my home town would know him. He was mayor
 
wolfman24 said:
I don't understand your question. I said they were both were elected and held to their promises both during the campaign and while in office. ??????

Read the second sentence "they spoke regularly during their terms
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Well, you were trying to equate to the people you say you know personally, with Romney/Ryan as far as the metric of "lying" goes, then you threw in that based on their performance in the office of the people you know....That would mean that Romney/Ryan would have to be elected, and hold the office....Kind of like the position Obama/Biden are in now....Right?
 
j-mac said:
Well, you were trying to equate to the people you say you know personally, with Romney/Ryan as far as the metric of "lying" goes, then you threw in that based on their performance in the office of the people you know....That would mean that Romney/Ryan would have to be elected, and hold the office....Kind of like the position Obama/Biden are in now....Right?
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That was not your question and I did not equate it to anyone. Someone asked earlier if there was such a thing as an honest poltician and I answered. You are putting your own spin on something I did not say or intend.
Please respond to the comment at hand and not try and put something there that isn't
 
wolfman24 said:
That was not your question and I did not equate it to anyone. Someone asked earlier if there was such a thing as an honest poltician and I answered. You are putting your own spin on something I did not say or intend.
Please respond to the comment at hand and not try and put something there that isn't
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Ok, we are off on splitting hairs I guess...Let's make it simple, do you believe based on those you know in office, that Obama/Biden meet your standard of 'honesty'?
 
j-mac said:
Ok, we are off on splitting hairs I guess...Let's make it simple, do you believe based on those you know in office, that Obama/Biden meet your standard of 'honesty'?
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Not relevant to my posts and I will NOT get pulled into a poltical contest with you. You obviously have an agenda and I am not going to play your game.
 
tererun said:
Well, if you want fantasy Mittens is your guy. Obama only promised change for the better. Mittens will give you whatever you want. You want flying monkeys, mittens has a plan for that. You want to never pay taxes again while having a ton of social programs, Mitt has a plan for that. You want clean energy, Mitt has a plan for that. You want a coal burning plant on every street, Mitt has a plan for that. You want an abortion, Mitt is all for it. You want to stop people from having abortions, Mitt will stop them cold. Mitt will tax the rich while giving them tax breaks. Mitt will tax the poor while giving them tax breaks. Mitt guarantees you will have social security and he will get rid of it so we don't have to pay for it. Mitt will hire more teachers, firemen, and police and then fire them to save money. You want medical care, mitt has your back, and he will also cut medical care spending out of our government so we don't have to pay for your medical care.

I really wish the above was a joke, but that is pretty much exactly what mittens has said he is going to do. The only thing that amazes me is how many people fall for it. You can't debate the guy he is saving your life while stabbing you in the back.
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How in the world can you possibly attempt to turn this into a partisan issue? Pres Obama lies just as much as Gov Romney. They both "stretch the truth" or blatantly lie every chance they get. Pres Obama and his administration have lied numerous times. Libya, Fast and Furious, etc. ALL politicians lie. That is the point of this thread. The point absolutely is not so an Obamabot can come on here and try to sling partisan poo. Don't be naive. It's very unbecoming.
 
MarineTpartier said:
How in the world can you possibly attempt to turn this into a partisan issue? Pres Obama lies just as much as Gov Romney.
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No he doesn't. It isn't even close. Romney lies more than any politician I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot.
 
AdamT said:
You are mistaken. According to Rosen's study, under Romney's tax plan, with 3% growth, families making more than $100k would end up paying and additional $81 BILLION in taxes.
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No, what it actually says is that if you took away their deductions, there would be a surplus of $81 billion. The $81 billion counts against any tax expenditures - and why it's basically revenue-neutral.
 
wolfman24 said:
Not relevant to my posts and I will NOT get pulled into a poltical contest with you. You obviously have an agenda and I am not going to play your game.
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Nonsense....I just asked you a simple question. Since you have no interest in discussing politics on a political board, I will merely bid you good evening....
 
AdamT said:
No he doesn't. It isn't even close. Romney lies more than any politician I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot.
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How did I know the Pres Obama campaign worker would say that?
 
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