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Is Obama the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetime?

I guess pretty popular since he was. Obama was polling 15-20% and more in Iowa at the end of 2006, long before he entered the race.

I would love to see those polls.

The only thing I was able to find from Google is a blog reference to an Des Moines Register poll around June, 2006. The link to the actual poll is no longer available but Obama isn't even mentioned.

Thirty percent (30%) of their sample expressed an early preference for John Edwards, 26% for Hillary Clinton, 12% for John Kerry and 10% for Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack. The other five potential candidates received support in the low single digits.

Mystery Pollster: The First Iowa Caucus Poll
 
I could easily get behind this Man for President, after he develops the required Foreign Policy experience necessary to be President.

Cory Booker is the one Democrat, (besides maybe Jay Nixon), who I'd seriously consider voting for president at some point. I don't really agree with him as much as I'd agree with a generic Republican, but I believe that his attitude and his philosophy are something I could see myself getting behind.
 
I would love to see those polls.

The only thing I was able to find from Google is a blog reference to an Des Moines Register poll around June, 2006. The link to the actual poll is no longer available but Obama isn't even mentioned.



Mystery Pollster: The First Iowa Caucus Poll

Here you go. Obama first or second in the first series of polls in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Michigan.

Statewide opinion polling for the January Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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No gotcha, I freely admit I voted for him. He was the best candidate and I gave him a shot - he failed, so now the next reasonable guy gets a shot. Maybe Romney will fail just like Obama did, maybe he'll be the best thing since sliced bread.

I'll leave the race stuff to the racists on both sides of the fence. But I sure don't want to glorify them.

Do you see what Obama has done to you?

I wonder if you ever had reason to question your own decision making abilities, your own judgment before Obama.

You and the rest of the majority of voters took a chance on Obama, maybe against their better judgment, and hoping for the best and maybe thinking that he can't mess things up too terribly bad because they thought, 'if W can be POTUS then...'

But Obama has messed up your thinking or else you are pretending to have not been affected by the racial politics of electing a Black POTUS.

(And BTW, I should have said, "got it!" not gotcha. I wasn't playing the 'gotcha' game.)

One more thing to keep nin mind about Obama, and this is crucially important in assessing his performance...

If you ASSUME he has the same worldview and view of America as most Americans do, his performance in office may seem inept.

But if you look at him as a product of his upbringing around Muslims, anti-Colonialists, Communists, revolutionaries, third-world thinkers and criminals of every sort and level, much of what we've seen of his performance is totally in keeping with a desire to make America less powerful, less wealthy, less influential in the world and less reliably loyal to our traditional allies.
 
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.

I really, really don't understand that kind of thinking, but you definitely don't speak for me. I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 because his views are oppositional to mine. I am going to enthusiastically not vote for him this time because in addition to holding the wrong opinion, in my view, on the size and role of government, the right to bear arms, respect for life, and etc., I think he's been a lousy President.

But that doesn't have anything to do with his race... or his gender either.
 
Deval Patrick is another possibility. Most MA residents say that he's been a better governor than Romney was....
 
Do you see what Obama has done to you?

I wonder if you ever had reason to question your own decision making abilities, your own judgment before Obama.

You and the rest of the majority of voters took a chance on Obama, maybe against their better judgment, and hoping for the best and maybe thinking that he can't mess things up too terribly bad because they thought, 'if W can be POTUS then...'

But Obama has messed up your thinking or else you are pretending to have not been affected by the racial politics of electing a Black POTUS.

(And BTW, I should have said, "got it!" not gotcha. I wasn't playing the 'gotcha' game.)

One more thing to keep nin mind about Obama, and this is crucially important in assessing his performance...

If you ASSUME he has the same worldview and view of America as most Americans do, his performance in office may seem inept.

But if you look at him as a product of his upbringing around Muslims, anti-Colonialists, Communists, revolutionaries, third-world thinkers and criminals of every sort and level, much of what we've seen of his performance is totally in keeping with a desire to make America less powerful, less wealthy, less influential in the world and less reliably loyal to our traditional allies.

Go ahead and tell what Obama has done.
Try to stay away from meaningless generalizations and rhetoric+spin...
Stick to those things called facts
 
Go ahead and tell what Obama has done.
Try to stay away from meaningless generalizations and rhetoric+spin...
Stick to those things called facts


Easy, instead of getting America back to work, he focused on ramming an unpopular law down America's throat.
 
Easy, instead of getting America back to work, he focused on ramming an unpopular law down America's throat.

Fail..
First of all you lied-The law not unpopular
Second of all you answered how i told you not to-with meaningless generalizations
 
I don't - and for obvious reasons:








I could easily get behind this Man for President, after he develops the required Foreign Policy experience necessary to be President.






That's a small minded hyper-affirmative action slant against President Obama, merely because he is black. It is a non-sequitur reply to his being elected as President of the United States and therefore, unworthy and unqualified for substantive rebuttal.




That's an empty suit accusation without merit and without substantive facts to support the innuendo. Until you actually cite a substantive and factual failure by this President, you've done nothing more than re-spew the illogical Republican Platform Mantra, that was established on the day President Obama, took office - to deny, lie and modify to the negative, anything positive that this President has done, or will do.




Again, another empty suit Romney'esk statement, where no substantive causation for your dislike of the current President's performance is given, only utterances to the irrationally concluded without merit or intellectual honesty.

In other words, no one can debate with you, when you never really say anything beyond the all to familiar ad homenim attack without merit.




You've jumped to an irrational conclusion from an underlying premise that does not exist and one that you just made-up out of thin air. Your entire post has been one Romney'ism after another. You feign a presupposition without any stipulation of fact, or anything even remotely congruent with reality. You assert a negative allegation and point it towards President Obama, but you never once took it upon yourself delineate a single fact that would provide even the thinnest support for your foundational declaratives.

Essentially, you've done exactly what Mitt Romney's Team has been doing for the past two (2) years on the campaign trail:

- Make false statements about what the President has done
- Make innuendo statements about what the President might due
- Score all things negative to the President's account
- Ignore all things positive [as if they do not exist]
- Make irrational utterances about new divisions within the country, despite an already previously divided country
- Make false claims about the lack of leadership, while providing none from your own party
- Make false claims about the lack of strategic plans, while having shared none from your own party
- Never take any responsibility for your party's role in creating problems, then blame the President for not solving them fast enough
- Pretend like your party had no role in the creation of any negative remnants left in the wake of eight (8) years of total domestic neglect
- Act Presidential by showing up for a debate and then lie about 90% of what you say during the debate
- Hit the campaign trail and pretend as if your lies were actually the truth and that no one on planet earth knows the difference
- Float through the elections and pray that an empty suit campaign will be enough to get you elected





All the while, failing to realize that a house divided cannot stand.




The racist undertones in your post are more than obvious. You have much to learn and a very short time to learn it.

Your paradigm is a dying breed and a dime a dozen. I doubt that anything is more Un-American to you than having a Black President of the United States of America. Your attitude is but one (1) of the primary reasons why I left the Republican Party at the age of 19, and never looked back. And, it is no wonder that the Republican Party is passing away into obscurity and irrelevance.

If the real truth be told, the Republican Party, has not put forth a genuine worthwhile candidate for the Presidency, since BEFORE 2000. With the election of George W. Bush, your party has abandoned all common sense and better judgment. Your poor electoral decisions in 2000, have set this country on a collision course with a loss of individual rights and the burning of our constitution as the bedrock of our existence as a nation. Your inept decision making in 2000, set this nation on a path of perpetual and unsustainable wars for natural resources, and the making of an alternative energy economy a four letter word. Your party has been co-opted and its members abused for the sake of profiteering and PSA contracts against the natural rights of the Iraqi People. Your party has been the causation for hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths, including those of defenseless Woman and Children.

The Gateway Drug was induced through your party and you've been hooked on that drug called War On Terror, ever since it was injected into your vein by the events of September 11th, 2001. Your blindness and your willful sheepleness has brought not only you to the point of reprobation, but and entire nation.

You have no idea, what's really happening in this world, do you?

While you fight the petty sub-wars of Race and Racism, unwilling to get over yourself and your failure at becoming a Master of the Universe, you can't see straight long enough to realize that the real war is between the Haves and the Have Nots. Unable to grasp the notion that you just might be getting used like a pawn in someone's game of life, moved about on an emotional roller-coaster until you are so unable to make sound decisions about your elected officials, that pushing horrific psychological operations right under your nose AND in broad daylight, became child's play for them and a total nightmare to you.

Yes, indeed. You have a lot to learn.

The issue is not race. The issue is whether or not you have the ability as a member of the voting electorate, to decipher when you are being taken to School.


And the majority of voters did not have that ability in 2008 and many do not have that ability today, because it was hijacked by an over riding desire to right past wrongs by electing a Black candidate.
 
And the majority of voters did not have that ability in 2008 and many do not have that ability today, because it was hijacked by an over riding desire to right past wrongs by electing a Black candidate.

So, if Hillary Clinton or John Edwards (before the scandal broke out) were nominated would they have lost?
 
Fail..
First of all you lied-The law not unpopular
Second of all you answered how i told you not to-with meaningless generalizations

You can't disagree without calling someone a liar? Wow. From Rasmussen on June 28th:

A week after President Obama’s health care law was passed, 54% of voters nationwide wanted to see the law repealed. Now, as the Supreme Court is set to issue a ruling on the law’s constitutionality, the numbers are unchanged: 54% want to see the law repealed.

Health Care Law Has Already Lost in Court of Public Opinion - Rasmussen Reports™

Sorry, but 54% isn't "popular" by my definition.
 
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.

President Obama is going to save us all!

Slick Willie was the first black President.
Obama is 2nd.
 
Your presumption is that all major news media is engaged in a secret conspiracy to promote Democrats and harm Republicans. This doesn't seem very realistic to me since at least some of the news media is owned by right-leaning leadership.

Maybe - but highly unlikely.

the point is if Cain wsa Obama and a liberal, his affairs etc would ahve been off limits and covered up... I think thats the OPs point..that since Obama was a radical liberal and FIRST, he was treated as a deity...
 
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.

Well, considering how multicultural the younger generations are becoming, I think it will be much more difficult to define people according to their race in the future.

I mean we could have someone whose grandparents on their mother's side be Asian and African-American and grandparents on their father's side be of Caucasian and Latin descent. So how do you define the racial heritage of such a person?

So, yeah, I think we will have someone of African-American descent become President again in my lifetime. And if we don't, it won't be because of anything Obama has done.

After all, JFK was the first Catholic President, and we haven't had a Catholic President since, but that hasn't had anything to do with JFK's tenure as President.
 
Not sure.

Can Clinton run again?
 
Who...cares about his skin? I didn't think that was at all part of the discussion.

He's also a christian, does that mean he'll be the last christian POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes?

I do believe that Obama's malfeasance has cast a shadow over succeeding black candidates.

First, the only reason he was nominated, and certainly the only reason he was elected, is because he was black. There is no way a white candidate with his lack of experience - lack of achievement - lack of plans - lack of resume - lack of personal associations that can be allowed the light of day, would have ever been considered for a mayoral candidate, much less the POTUS.

He had never won a legitimate election. His other 'victories' came about by getting his opposition disqualified by releasing sealed records from divorce proceedings. To save their families the constant embarrassment from inquisitive 'journalists' and dirty political ads. Obama walked into office without significant opposition, aided and abetted by a dysfunctional press and a corrupt political machine.

He was proclaimed 'an articulate, good looking, clean' black man by Joe Biden. The college age kids went ape over the 'cool' image. The left leaning liberals saw a way to relieve themselves of their 'white guilt.' The national press felt a chill running up their leg at the sight of a black man running for office that they did absolutely no 'vetting' of his background - they didn't care about his communist leaning mentors, or his race-baiting mentors, or his lack of any sort of achievement. Not one of them ever tried a 'gotcha' question for Obama. In fact, they insulated him from ever having to face a real question.

McCain was a disaster as a candidate - he was cowered into being "nice" to the black man opposing him.

No - Obama is in office PRECISELY because he is (half) black.

Therefore, many of those who voted for him on this basis will no doubt be doubly suspicious of any other black who runs for POTUS.

This is a great shame. The GOP has a lot of really qualified blacks who would make great POTUS, but will probably not get the chance because of the disaster that is Barack Hussein Obama.

As for his being Christian, you are just being silly and that deserves nothing but derision.

Feel derided.
:peace
 
I believe there will be other black presidents.

I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.
 
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