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Is Obama the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetime?

clownboy said:
I didn't vote for him because of his color, nor did anyone else I know who voted for him. I voted for him because the speeches he gave sounded much like the speeches my favorite president gave (that would be Ike). That and McCain is a flat-out crook. Unfortunately, his speeches did not inform the way he governed.
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Oh, so you shouldn't be held to account for the part you played in electing him?

Gotcha. :)
 
Travis007 said:
the point is if Cain wsa Obama and a liberal, his affairs etc would ahve been off limits and covered up... I think thats the OPs point..that since Obama was a radical liberal and FIRST, he was treated as a deity...
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Well put, Travis007!
 
Donahue said:
I think the 2008 election was clearly going Democrat no matter who the nominee was but it's hard for me to come up with any real arguments as to why then-Sen. Obama distinguished himself from the group, aside from race. He certainly didn't have a resume comparable to his opponents.
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He was a better campaigner. His race might've played a part in the primaries, but Obama ran a much better primary campaign than Hillary Clinton did.
 
No. He is not the last black president we will see.

No. This is not the last doofy thread we will see at DP.

(In before OP is banned)
 
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Dragonfly said:
Obama is half white.

Thread fail!!!!!!
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Tell that to all his Black sycophants and they will rip you a new a**hole.

Don't believe me?

Ask the Black actress who co-starred in the film, "Clueless" and who recently said she supported Romney and as a result has been threatened and insulted by Black Obamabots.
 
cAPSLOCK said:
No. He is not the last black president we will see.

No. This is not the last doofy thread we will see at DP.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen again. You might not last long enough to see it happen. But, then again, maybe you SHOULD hold your breath. As long as possible. Then do it again and again. And stop playing on the internet.
 
Anagram said:
He was a better campaigner. His race might've played a part in the primaries, but Obama ran a much better primary campaign than Hillary Clinton did.
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C'mon, now.

A guy who no one had ever really heard of who had virtually no accomplishments to his name beat out some of the biggest names in global politics ... because he was a better campaigner?

Doesn't that sound silly when it's said out loud?

I don't care about race one way or the other but I think people are really kidding themselves if they're insisting race wasn't a deciding factor in that primary.
 
Anagram said:
He was a better campaigner. His race might've played a part in the primaries, but Obama ran a much better primary campaign than Hillary Clinton did.
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And you know who orchestrated his campaign?

David Axelrod.

As disreputable a campaigner as there is.

David Axelrod - Discover the Networks

But, once he won the office, his performance has worked against the kind of America the majority of Americans want.

Wait and see.

Romney landslide on Nov. 6th.
 
Donahue said:
C'mon, now.

A guy who no one had ever really heard of who had virtually no accomplishments to his name beat out some of the biggest names in politics ... because he was a better campaigner?

Doesn't that sound silly when it's said out loud?
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No. Obama was one of the most well known Democrats after his speech at the 2004 convention. He had a huge power base in Chicago and a number of early important endorsements. Now those endorsements might've come because he was black, I don't know, but he used all of that very effectively to take down Clinton.
 
Anagram said:
No. Obama was one of the most well known Democrats after his speech at the 2004 convention. He had a huge power base in Chicago and a number of early important endorsements. Now those endorsements might've come because he was black, I don't know, but he used all of that very effectively to take down Clinton.
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No he wasn't.

It's one thing if you want to say you personally felt he was the best candidate available after reading up on his limited career but it's just simply not true that he was one of the most well known Democrats four years before he himself won the nomination.
 
Donahue said:
No he wasn't.

It's one thing if you want to say you personally felt he was the best candidate available after reading up on his limited career but it's just simply not true that he was one of the most well known Democrats four years before he himself won the nomination.
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He wasn't as well known as John Edwards or Hillary Clinton, but he wasn't as anonymous as Joe Biden or Bill Richardson either. And since 2004 he was looked at as a possible 2008 presidential candidate.
 
JRog said:
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've read lately. It's people like you that lend credence to the idea that a portion of the opposition to Obama's administration is from racism.
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Ask Toure and Dr. Cornel West and Tavis Smiley if there isn't still a racist majority in America and/or that racists could determine an election. (I don't believe there is, but find out what THEY'D SAY before you go any further here.)

It's people like those mentioned above who gave me the idea for this thread.
 
Anagram said:
He wasn't as well known as John Edwards or Hillary Clinton, but he wasn't as anonymous as Joe Biden or Bill Richardson either. And since 2004 he was looked at as a possible 2008 presidential candidate.
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It's just such a foolish statement I don't even know why you continue to defend it.

I mean, really, how popular could anyone possibly be because of a single speech they made 4 years earlier?

He was a no-name candidate given undue attention because suddenly it became hip to think of electing a black man and I think everyone realizes that deep down inside.
 
marsden said:
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.
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This post does not deserve an intelligent answer.
 
Donahue said:
It's just such a foolish statement I don't even know why you continue to defend it.

I mean, really, how popular could anyone be based off a single speech they made 4 years prior?
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I guess pretty popular since he was. Obama was polling 15-20% and more in Iowa at the end of 2006, long before he entered the race.
 
marsden said:
After the voters really get a good look at the damage he and his candidacy and administration have done to this country and the fallout that will come from his "rule" you will not see another Black POTUS in your lifetime.
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Like a said....a seriously flawed premise. Does that mean that we won't see another white male elected after the mess that GWB left this country in?
 
disneydude said:
Like a said....a seriously flawed premise. Does that mean that we won't see another white male elected after the mess that GWB left this country in?
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No. But, your inability to see the validity of the thread premise is kind of endearing in it's naivete.
 
marsden said:
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.
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I don't think it has anything to do with Obama being half-black.

I think it is all about him being a crappy president.


I don't think America as a whole is nearly so obsessed with race, whether pro-Obama or anti-Obama, as some people make out.
 
marsden said:
Oh, so you shouldn't be held to account for the part you played in electing him?

Gotcha. :)
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No gotcha, I freely admit I voted for him. He was the best candidate and I gave him a shot - he failed, so now the next reasonable guy gets a shot. Maybe Romney will fail just like Obama did, maybe he'll be the best thing since sliced bread.

I'll leave the race stuff to the racists on both sides of the fence. But I sure don't want to glorify them.
 
marsden said:
No. But, your inability to see the validity of the thread premise is kind of endearing in it's naivete.
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How is it valid. First off, you state info as "facts" that are based in fiction.Second, even if you accept your "facts" as true, your "theory" is flawed because why would GWB driving this country to the brink of economic and moral bankruptcy not have the same or greater effect on the ability of white males to get elected if you accept your theory?
 
marsden said:
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.
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I don't - and for obvious reasons:








I could easily get behind this Man for President, after he develops the required Foreign Policy experience necessary to be President.



marsden said:
Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office.
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That's a small minded hyper-affirmative action slant against President Obama, merely because he is black. It is a non-sequitur reply to his being elected as President of the United States and therefore, unworthy and unqualified for substantive rebuttal.


marsden said:
Because of what he has done and not done in office.
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That's an empty suit accusation without merit and without substantive facts to support the innuendo. Until you actually cite a substantive and factual failure by this President, you've done nothing more than re-spew the illogical Republican Platform Mantra, that was established on the day President Obama, took office - to deny, lie and modify to the negative, anything positive that this President has done, or will do.


marsden said:
Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid.
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Again, another empty suit Romney'esk statement, where no substantive causation for your dislike of the current President's performance is given, only utterances to the irrationally concluded without merit or intellectual honesty.

In other words, no one can debate with you, when you never really say anything beyond the all to familiar ad homenim attack without merit.


marsden said:
And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.
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You've jumped to an irrational conclusion from an underlying premise that does not exist and one that you just made-up out of thin air. Your entire post has been one Romney'ism after another. You feign a presupposition without any stipulation of fact, or anything even remotely congruent with reality. You assert a negative allegation and point it towards President Obama, but you never once took it upon yourself delineate a single fact that would provide even the thinnest support for your foundational declaratives.

Essentially, you've done exactly what Mitt Romney's Team has been doing for the past two (2) years on the campaign trail:

- Make false statements about what the President has done
- Make innuendo statements about what the President might due
- Score all things negative to the President's account
- Ignore all things positive [as if they do not exist]
- Make irrational utterances about new divisions within the country, despite an already previously divided country
- Make false claims about the lack of leadership, while providing none from your own party
- Make false claims about the lack of strategic plans, while having shared none from your own party
- Never take any responsibility for your party's role in creating problems, then blame the President for not solving them fast enough
- Pretend like your party had no role in the creation of any negative remnants left in the wake of eight (8) years of total domestic neglect
- Act Presidential by showing up for a debate and then lie about 90% of what you say during the debate
- Hit the campaign trail and pretend as if your lies were actually the truth and that no one on planet earth knows the difference
- Float through the elections and pray that an empty suit campaign will be enough to get you elected


marsden said:
So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.
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All the while, failing to realize that a house divided cannot stand.


marsden said:
He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.
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The racist undertones in your post are more than obvious. You have much to learn and a very short time to learn it.

Your paradigm is a dying breed and a dime a dozen. I doubt that anything is more Un-American to you than having a Black President of the United States of America. Your attitude is but one (1) of the primary reasons why I left the Republican Party at the age of 19, and never looked back. And, it is no wonder that the Republican Party is passing away into obscurity and irrelevance.

If the real truth be told, the Republican Party, has not put forth a genuine worthwhile candidate for the Presidency, since BEFORE 2000. With the election of George W. Bush, your party has abandoned all common sense and better judgment. Your poor electoral decisions in 2000, have set this country on a collision course with a loss of individual rights and the burning of our constitution as the bedrock of our existence as a nation. Your inept decision making in 2000, set this nation on a path of perpetual and unsustainable wars for natural resources, and the making of an alternative energy economy a four letter word. Your party has been co-opted and its members abused for the sake of profiteering and PSA contracts against the natural rights of the Iraqi People. Your party has been the causation for hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths, including those of defenseless Woman and Children.

The Gateway Drug was induced through your party and you've been hooked on that drug called War On Terror, ever since it was injected into your vein by the events of September 11th, 2001. Your blindness and your willful sheepleness has brought not only you to the point of reprobation, but and entire nation.

You have no idea, what's really happening in this world, do you?

While you fight the petty sub-wars of Race and Racism, unwilling to get over yourself and your failure at becoming a Master of the Universe, you can't see straight long enough to realize that the real war is between the Haves and the Have Nots. Unable to grasp the notion that you just might be getting used like a pawn in someone's game of life, moved about on an emotional roller-coaster until you are so unable to make sound decisions about your elected officials, that pushing horrific psychological operations right under your nose AND in broad daylight, became child's play for them and a total nightmare to you.

Yes, indeed. You have a lot to learn.

The issue is not race. The issue is whether or not you have the ability as a member of the voting electorate, to decipher when you are being taken to School.
 
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