Gallup: Mitt Romney debate win biggest ever

The left keeps denying it but the facts speak for themselves.

By KEVIN ROBILLARD | 10/8/12 6:12 AM EDT Updated: 10/8/12 3:36 PM EDT

Almost three-quarters of Americans who watched the debate believe Mitt Romney won, a record high in Gallup’s polling, driving the GOP nominee into a tie with President Barack Obama.
Only 20 percent of Americans who watched think Obama won, compared to 72 percent for Romney. Among independents, 71 percent believe Romney won. A near-majority of Democrats who saw the faceoff — 49 percent — also said that the Republican nominee bested Obama.




Read more: Gallup: Mitt Romney debate win biggest ever - Kevin Robillard - POLITICO.com

LOL... I'm not a big fan of gallup but seeing how you seem to like sourcing them then...

dupe post.

poweRob said:

LOL... I'm not a big fan of gallup but seeing how you seem to like sourcing them then...

GALLUP: Obama Bouncing Back Already To 5-Point Lead

President Barack Obama moved back to a 5-point lead over Mitt Romney, halting the Republican nominee's post-debate momentum. Obama now leads Romney 50 percent to 45 percent in Gallup's daily tracking poll.

Romney had seen a big three-day post-debate move in the Gallup daily tracking poll, but today's results signal that his debate bump is beginning to level off.
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Whew!

Looks like them phony unemployment numbers are doin' tha trick.

Sheik Yerbuti said:

Whew!

Looks like them phony unemployment numbers are doin' tha trick.

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Not only were the unemployment numbers not phony, they weren't part time jobs either.

Fact-check: Most new jobs are full-time ones - MarketWatch First Take - MarketWatch

Yep, Romney did a much better job than Obama in the debate. Kind of reminds me of another debate.

Polls: Kerry won debate - CNN

pbrauer said:

Not only were the unemployment numbers not phony, they weren't part time jobs either.

Fact-check: Most new jobs are full-time ones - MarketWatch First Take - MarketWatch

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Sorry but you are incorrect

If we were operating under the same LFPR assumptions that we had during 2008, Unemployment would be 11%

Most of the full time jobs added in the last few months were GOVERNMENT JOBS. That means Obama had to take money out of private wealth creation in the private economy to fund them. Finally most of the supposed "jobs" they magically found from "Household Surveys" which is volatile data at best were low income and part time hamburger flipping jobs.

U6 Unemployment is at 14.7% and didn't go down with this laughable propaganda of a Jobs Report

Black Unemployment is at 14.5%

Unemployment was higher than 8% under Obama for his entire presidency and you're celebrating like we're in a boom? Hilarious. 14.7% u6 unemployment with potentially 27 million americans out of work and wanting employment and it's party time? Liberal Policies haven't worked the last 4 years. Period. It's time for something new. We can't afford 4 more years of this fiscal insanity.

Sarcogito said:

Yep, Romney did a much better job than Obama in the debate. Kind of reminds me of another debate.

Polls: Kerry won debate - CNN

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Should tell you something about Obozo since he picked Kerry to be his debate couch

Just more proof that even George W Bush would have destroyed Obama in a debate hahahaha

Bronson said:

Sorry but you are incorrect

If we were operating under the same LFPR assumptions that we had during 2008, Unemployment would be 11%

Most of the full time jobs added in the last few months were GOVERNMENT JOBS. That means Obama had to take money out of private wealth creation in the private economy to fund them. Finally most of the supposed "jobs" they magically found from "Household Surveys" which is volatile data at best were low income and part time hamburger flipping jobs.

U6 Unemployment is at 14.7% and didn't go down with this laughable propaganda of a Jobs Report

Black Unemployment is at 14.5%

Unemployment was higher than 8% under Obama for his entire presidency and you're celebrating like we're in a boom? Hilarious. 14.7% u6 unemployment with potentially 27 million americans out of work and wanting employment and it's party time? Liberal Policies haven't worked the last 4 years. Period. It's time for something new. We can't afford 4 more years of this fiscal insanity.

Should tell you something about Obozo since he picked Kerry to be his debate couch

Just more proof that even George W Bush would have destroyed Obama in a debate hahahaha

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Where did your chart come from?

winston53660 said:

Where did your chart come from?

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What does it matter? Anyone trying to have a serious discussion that uses "Obozo" and can't see the connection about this debate and last few (basically being debates rarely matter) doesn't need to be given anymore thought.

poweRob said:

LOL... I'm not a big fan of gallup but seeing how you seem to like sourcing them then...

GALLUP: Obama Bouncing Back Already To 5-Point Lead

President Barack Obama moved back to a 5-point lead over Mitt Romney, halting the Republican nominee's post-debate momentum. Obama now leads Romney 50 percent to 45 percent in Gallup's daily tracking poll.

Romney had seen a big three-day post-debate move in the Gallup daily tracking poll, but today's results signal that his debate bump is beginning to level off.​

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That same trend showed up in social media a couple days before. Right after the debate an big majority thought Romney won but over the next few days, as it became apparent just how much of Mitt's performance was composed of outright lies, the numbers started swinging back toward Obama. Too bad for the GOP they can't schedule a debate the day before the election.

winston53660 said:

Where did your chart come from?

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Why do you need to ask?

You can refute the charts themselves without even looking at the source.

First, no one is saying the Bush tax cuts caused the recession. The Bush tax cuts are partially to blame for the deficit and debt. That chart is essentially fabricating a claim to attack its political opponents on (much like many poor debaters here). That should clue you in to how "trustworthy" the charts will be. How a reduction in taxes not met with a reduction in spending causes a recession is pretty looney.

As for the deficit, they are flat out lying:
Bruce Bartlett: Are the Bush Tax Cuts the Root of Our Fiscal Problem? - NYTimes.com

Furthermore, the criteria is retarded. Deficits are percent of GDP? What the **** does that mean? How does that even remotely prove that the tax cuts were irrelevant to the red ink? All it shows the deficits as a percent of the GDP. And 3% of a multi trillion dollar GDP is a damn HUGE deficit. You got to be pretty ignorant about economics to buy this set of graphs.

The third one is particularly dishonest. Annualizing GDP evenly projects out GDP among all months. This is no way accurate to how the economy actually works. It essentially is saying that all activity happens at an even rate. If we use a graph showing actual activity, we get a very different outcome.

Fourth one is largely a partisan hit. It ignores that financial crisises take a fairly long time to sort out at the same time completely absolving the Republican Congress of any responsibility. Sure growth is slow. But it is always slow after a financial recession regardless of who is in power, where they are in power and what tactics they try short of what China and South Korea did.

Fifth one same problems as the fourth and the fact that Obama essentially under-balled how bad it would be. Doesn't change the facts that growth is always slow, if there is any, after a financial recession in the years following.

We're seeing a lot of the sixth graph arguments running around. It's particularly dishonest because it assumes that a period of near financial economic collapse, world wide economic recession, and deleveraging at all levels of the economy didn't happen. That the economic conditions of 2008 to now were the same as the post war period of relative stability and relatively financial security. The S&L crisis is the only thing close to what happened in 2008 and it doesn't even register in terms of damage.

You have to pretty uneducated to buy into those charts.

poweRob said:

LOL... I'm not a big fan of gallup but seeing how you seem to like sourcing them then...

GALLUP: Obama Bouncing Back Already To 5-Point Lead

President Barack Obama moved back to a 5-point lead over Mitt Romney, halting the Republican nominee's post-debate momentum. Obama now leads Romney 50 percent to 45 percent in Gallup's daily tracking poll.

Romney had seen a big three-day post-debate move in the Gallup daily tracking poll, but today's results signal that his debate bump is beginning to level off.​

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You are comparing a three day poll with a seven day rolling poll. The seven day rolling poll that Gallup puts out only moved 1 point post-debate.

winston53660 said:

Where did your chart come from?

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I think it says right there at the bottom in small letters, what do you think?