since half of the country are not paying any income tax by definition those who have to cover for them are net tax payers. Denying the existence of NET tax payers since an absolute formula is not feasible is idiotic. The fact is, those who are paying over 100K a year in FIT are without a doubt NTP. The only question is at what point does someone who pays FIT become a NTC
You very properly put together two terms in the same post: IDIOTIC and NET TAXPAYER.
The fact here is a simple one: it is indeed IDIOTIC to push the use of the term NET TAXPAYER without a proper definition of it, without a proper measurement of it, and without a proper formula to apply it to the American people to determine if they qualify for that sainted and revered label or if they are to be woefully cast into the eternal fires of right wing damnation because they are not.
So tell us if the Smith Family are net taxpayers Turtle? Do tell us and tell us what measurement scale and what formula you applied.
Here are the specifics for you - yet again
Let us take the case of a couple - the Smith family - who have an income of $300K per year. This is far more than average and places them in the desired class of the net taxpayer according to the logic of Turtle. However, any such determination that does not examine the actual government services used by the Smith family is extremely incomplete and flawed.
Let us say that the Smith's over all tax payments are in the range of 20%. That is almost double what Mitt Romney pays with an income of forty times more than they make. But lets go with that figure. This means they have paid about $60K in taxes to all levels of government in a year. Now let us say that the Smith's have four children ranging in ages from seven to sixteen years of age and are in the local public school. If they live in a state like New Jersey, where Governor Christie says it costs over $20K per year for one students education if they are in the Newark pubic school system, that is a cost of over $80K for the children of the Smith family. Now please keep in mind that I cannot find any source which says Christie is right. Sources I can locate say the expenditure is closer to $17K per pupil in his state. But let us assume that the governor of that state knows more than the rest of us and we will use his figure. If we use the lower figure it is still $68K for the Smith's education. And if they live in a lower cost state like where the per pupil cost is only half of that, the cost of education for the Smith children is still over $40K per year. Not even taking into account any other single government service, they already are tax vampires sucking up far more than they contribute. Despite their above average income and the taxes they pay on it and for other things, they are nowhere near being a net taxpayer.
And how much would that extra amount used by the Smith family constitute? What is their benefit from national defense costs? What is their benefit from local and state government costs from things like infrastructure and local services? That would have to be another considerable figure of at least five figures.
And this illustrates the absolute folly and impossibility of identifying who and who is not a net taxpayer. If you cannot accurately define it and identify the rubric being used, the methodology being used and the information necessary to make the judgment, how can you then apply this to anyone with any degree of accuracy at all? Obviously you cannot.
The Smith family would be different than a childless couple and both couples would be different than a couple with six children in school. Everyones situation is individual and different and that is a key point.
Now take all aspects of taxation and all aspects of government service and every American and come up with your determination of who is and who is not a net taxpayer and who is a tax vampire. it simply cannot be done with any accuracy or specificity.
The point here is indeed damning for you in that you really cannot tell us what you are talking about, cannot define it, cannot measure it nor can you tell others how to do any of those things based on their own income and expenses.
In short - you got nothing except hollow vitriol directed at people you think are not as worth as you are.
