Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama [W:50]

Re: Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama

BACotner said:

1. He is going to radically cut defense spending resulting in another 9/11

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If we don't keep giving government handouts to private defense contractors, the terrorists will win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh NOEZ!!!! QUICK, shovel as much money as you can into Lockheed-Martin!!!!!! The security of the nation depends on billions in needless, unproven weapons technology that the military doesn't even really want!!!!!!!!!

Quick, call up Jim Jordan and have him order up another hundred M1 tanks!!!!!

Re: Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama

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Re: Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama

MarineTpartier said:

Specklebang started an excellent thread that actually stirs honest debate. Please keep this thread the same. So, same boundaries on this one. Three reasons why you believe President Obama should be reelected. No mention of Governor Romney. No mention of Republicans. And PLEASE, no mention of President friggin Bush. No comparing him to anyone else. We're all sick of hearing that. Just three solid, honest reasons you want to vote for President Obama. It can be what he's done or what he intends to do, doesn't matter. Also, for the other side. No hijacking the thread and saying ridiculous crap that we all know is hyperbole. Please, as in specklebang's thread, provide a link the source of your claims.
Good example (without link):
President Obama intends to appoint Supreme Court justices that will be in favor of SSM. Then you would put the link to the speech or story where he has promised to do it.
Bad example (without link):
President Obama has a better singing voice than Mitt Romney.
Debate as to the validity of his accomplishments or proposals are fine. I'm guessing this will last about 2 pages before its off the rails.

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Three seems so unfair I would prefer 30 but here's 3

The economy is better. Depression averted, stocks have almost doubled and are near pre-recession levels, employment has risen since 2010 for all but the last 3 months, unemployment fell by more than 2%, GDP has gone up 10%, our auto industry is back on it's feet, housing is once again stable.

Our standing in the world is better. We killed Osama Bin Laden the face of the 911 attacks, with the exception of Israel we're on better terms with every other country such as France and Germany, Russia and China. We withdrew most of our troops from Iraq, we are no longer at war with that nation. We are withdrawing from Afghanistan.

He supports the middle class, expanded medical coverage to college students, defends Roe V Wade, and pushes legislation for the equality and protection of homosexuals. Weather companies like Solyndra went bankrupt or not, he did fund alternative energy. Of course when you invest nearly a Trillion dollars not every company you invest in will thrive. Despite false attacks, Obama has lowered taxes every year for the past three years. Regarding Roe V. Wade it is the rational decision to leave abortion up to mothers and their doctors. It is bad for our society to force teenagers, rape victims, families who could not financially support a child, to have a the child. In 50 years we will look back at gay rights as we have now looked back on civil rights.

Short version

Economy is better
Our foreign relations are better and we are safer
We are pushing key social issues that are long overdue.

Re: Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama

MarineTpartier said:

Specklebang started an excellent thread that actually stirs honest debate. Please keep this thread the same. So, same boundaries on this one. Three reasons why you believe President Obama should be reelected. No mention of Governor Romney. No mention of Republicans. And PLEASE, no mention of President friggin Bush. No comparing him to anyone else. We're all sick of hearing that. Just three solid, honest reasons you want to vote for President Obama. It can be what he's done or what he intends to do, doesn't matter. Also, for the other side. No hijacking the thread and saying ridiculous crap that we all know is hyperbole. Please, as in specklebang's thread, provide a link the source of your claims.
Good example (without link):
President Obama intends to appoint Supreme Court justices that will be in favor of SSM. Then you would put the link to the speech or story where he has promised to do it.
Bad example (without link):
President Obama has a better singing voice than Mitt Romney.
Debate as to the validity of his accomplishments or proposals are fine.


I'm guessing this will last about 2 pages before its off the rails.

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Not quite that long... Try zero posts after.

Re: Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama

MarineTpartier said:

You have been watching the news lately haven't you?

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Demonstrations in ME are against a bigotry film not against Obama?

Re: Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama

1) I like Obama’s Affordable Health Care reforms. I would have liked single payor better, but at least people with pre-existing conditions aren't turned out on their ears.
2) The economy is improving. I'm very glad Obama helped the auto industry recover. That's a success. He, whom we aren't allowed to name, would have let it fail. Yes, the tax cuts need to be gone. You can't run a country on less and less revenue. And, yes, a lot of other government cuts need to happen also.
3) Most American women want pro-choice to stay. Conservatives, please stay out of people's family decisions.

Also...Sorry this is more than three. But, no, Medicare and Social Security (insurance programs) do not need have vouchers. They are separate from the rest of the federal budget. Wall Street should never get its greedy paws on those funds. They've stolen enough already. Lastly, P. Rye-n Budget Plan - no way - Slash and burn the gvmt...That's just nuts. It would devastate America, and if you think unemployment is a problem now....

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Jredbaron96 said:

Has come out for support for gay marriage, an issue that will be a great benefit to the American society.
Health Care Reform Bill, preventing Insurance companies from denying insurance coverage Because of a pre-existing condition.
Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when their bodies arrive in Dover AFB.

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After all the promises of hope and change, deliverance from the policies of GWB, ending tax cuts for the rich, decifit reduction, unemployment, and economic growth, this is all you have?

Well, yeah, I guess it is.

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H. Lee White said:

After all the promises of hope and change, deliverance from the policies of GWB, ending tax cuts for the rich, decifit reduction, unemployment, and economic growth, this is all you have?

Well, yeah, I guess it is.

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He said three reasons. I gave three reasons. Do you want more than three reasons?

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Jredbaron96 said:

He said three reasons. I gave three reasons. Do you want more than three reasons?

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Given you were limited to three reasons, I figured those you gave were the best you had - if this is indeed the case, additional reasons will only strenghthen my point.

So please - feel free to list as many as you'd like.

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H. Lee White said:

Given you were limited to three reasons, I figured those you gave were the best you had - if this is indeed the case, additional reasons will only strenghthen my point.

So please - feel free to list as many as you'd like.

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I would love to.


Make a thread for it.

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Jredbaron96 said:

I would love to.
Make a thread for it.

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You can either make the thread, or you can add them to this one - you're the one with something to say, so its up to you to proceed.

Either way, you'll just strengthen my point.

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H. Lee White said:

You can either make the thread, or you can add them to this one

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No. This thread specifically asked for three reasons. I consider myself on good terms with MarineTpartier and would prefer not to derail his thread.

- you're the one with something to say, so its up to you to proceed.

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And you're the one asking the question. You want to know so badly, why don't you supply me the means to do so.

Either way, you'll just strengthen my point.

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You have no point, other than being incapable of reading the thread title.

Re: Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama

1. He will protect our Supreme Court from falling into the hands of right-wing activists
(If you don't want to see the Supreme Court adopt the radical right-wing social agenda...this should be the number one reason to vote for Obama. Its very likely that there will be at least 2 if not 3 new appointments in the next term. A vote for Romney will set this country back decades.)

2. Unless you are part of the 1%, it is against your economic interests to vote for Romney. Obama's interest is in the working class and middle class. Romney doesn't care about those groups.

3. Foreign Policy. Romney has already shown several times that he has no clue how to deal with foreign policy issues. Obama has helped American regain its standing in the world community after years of GWB destroying our reputation and our relationships with our allies. Romney would be a return to the imperialistic neocon policies of Bush.

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Jredbaron96 said:

No. This thread specifically asked for three reasons
And you're the one asking the question. You want to know so badly, why don't you supply me the means to do so.

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I really don't care of you have more reasons or not, and welcoming you to list those additional reaosns is not a request to supply those reasons.

Fact of the matter is, none of your reasons have anything to do His with promises of hope and change, deliverance from the policies of GWB, ending tax cuts for the rich, decifit reduction, improving unemployment, and creating economic growth - and so, thus far, one can only assume that you agree He has failed at all of these things and have had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find a reason to support Him.

So, if you have something other than the milktoast prattle you originally responded with and you have the fortitutde to post it, be my guest -- otherwise, the facts of the matter speak for themselves.

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TurtleDude said:

You have a million in dividends (which was already taxed 35% before you got it) and you go from paying 150K on it to 430K on it that is going to cause major lifestyle changes and affect others around you

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So what changes will you make? I mean with only $570,000 in income you will need to cut back on Starbucks or what?

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H. Lee White said:

I really don't care of you have more reasons or not, and welcoming you to list those additional reaosns is not a request to supply those reasons.

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If you really don't care, then quit bugging me.

Fact of the matter is, none of your reasons have anything to do His with promises of hope and change, deliverance from the policies of GWB, ending tax cuts for the rich, decifit reduction, improving unemployment, and creating economic growth - and so, thus far, one can only assume that you agree He has failed at all of these things and have had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find a reason to support Him.

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Once can only assume that not only are you incapable of accepting the fact that I am happily voting for Obama without me being a radical Marxist/communist/socialist, or whatever political buzz word that you come up with.
I can list those reasons. Make a thread, and I'll answer. What's the matter? Afraid that I'll actually back up what I say?

So, if you have something other than the milktoast prattle you originally responded with and you have the fortitutde to post it, be my guest -- otherwise, the facts of the matter speak for themselves.

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I picked three random things he accomplished beacuse I was too damn lazy to actually pick something big. (Although I would say that the whole prior disabilities would count as big.) The facts of the matter are is that you suck at debating.

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Jredbaron96 said:

If you really don't care, then quit bugging me.

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Bugging you? You took exception to my "that's all you got" comment, and have yet to show that you have more.

Now, you can do one of two things:
1: List those other, better, reasons to vote for Obama
2: Do not.

At this point, its prettly clear you're trying to avoid 1 becuse you know you'll only strengthen my point.

Re: Three Reasons to Vote for President Obama

1. You're an envirowhacko
2. You're a liberal progressive, and quite possibly insane.
3. You're gay, a single black female, a single latino female, a single white female, an illegal immigrant, a union employee, live in a state or work for a company that is exempt from Obamacare, work for the bloated government in some capacity, you're a unionized teacher or administrator.. Etc.. Etc..

Basically, if you're special interest, you're voting for Obama. If you actually care about our nation, you vote for Romeny. It's that simple!


Tim-

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Rosie1 said:

Also...Sorry this is more than three. But, no, Medicare and Social Security (insurance programs) do not need have vouchers. They are separate from the rest of the federal budget.

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They arent budgeted at all - they are entitlements, where the money is spent regardless of available revenue.
Certainly, you recognize the problem with spending money without regard to revenue...?

Wall Street should never get its greedy paws on those funds. They've stolen enough already.

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The Socisl Security Trust Fund has exacly $0 in it. Why is that? Hint: It doesn't have anyting to do with wall street.

Lastly, P. Rye-n Budget Plan - no way - Slash and burn the gvmt...That's just nuts. It would devastate America, and if you think unemployment is a problem now....

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At some point in time, our public debt will collapse the government and crush the economy; any "devastation" brought by the Ryan plan will look like a vacation in comparison.

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LGBT support - particularly potential scotus appointments

National healthcare support - not the public option I wanted but I will take it.

National prestige- Respect from the international community

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Hicup said:

You're gay, a single black female, a single latino female, a single white female, an illegal immigrant, a union employee, live in a state or work for a company that is exempt from Obamacare, work for the bloated government in some capacity, you're a unionized teacher or administrator.. Etc.. Etc..

Basically, if you're special interest, you're voting for Obama. If you actually care about our nation, you vote for Romeny. It's that simple!

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Seriously? Unmarried women are a special interest? A woman's interests aren't "normal" until she marries and starts breeding? That sums up the Republican position pretty effectively, I think.

And then most of the rest of your list is people who work and pay taxes, but not in situations you approve of. So you feel like you can pass judgment on them and ask for them to be fired... but you also want unemployment down.

Tim is certainly a good reason to vote for Obama, because his side espouses a "brood mare" view of half the population, and then wants to lay off another portion of the population so their taxes can (theoretically) go down.

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1) If I fail Im just a victim, the roads sucked.. I didnt build that..
2) I wont work hard anymore..who cares.. the USA is ruined, and I might as well become a leach.. if you cant beat em join em
3) I cant even think of anything else

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Paschendale said:

Seriously? Unmarried women are a special interest? A woman's interests aren't "normal" until she marries and starts breeding? That sums up the Republican position pretty effectively, I think.

And then most of the rest of your list is people who work and pay taxes, but not in situations you approve of. So you feel like you can pass judgment on them and ask for them to be fired... but you also want unemployment down.

Tim is certainly a good reason to vote for Obama, because his side espouses a "brood mare" view of half the population, and then wants to lay off another portion of the population so their taxes can (theoretically) go down.

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yes Obama claims unmarried women are a special interest.. why do you doubt Chairman Erkle Obama? see life of Julia film by Obama.. she has the goverment to assist her life..

Your post was a wowza..

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H. Lee White said:

They arent budgeted at all - they are entitlements, where the money is spent regardless of available revenue. Certainly, you recognize the problem with spending money without regard to revenue...? The Social Security Trust Fund has exacly $0 in it. Why is that? Hint: It doesn't have anyting to do with wall street.

Call SS and Medicare what you like. SS was funded until 2033. That's hardly $0. Social Security and Medicare Could Run Out Sooner Than Expected - ABC News. SS should be fixed for the future, but also guarantee that those who have paid into it their whole lives, get their funds.

At some point in time, our public debt will collapse the government and crush the economy; any "devastation" brought by the Ryan plan will look like a vacation in comparison.
That's your opinion..

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