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Romeny would not try to end the "Dream Act".

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Seems the two candidates are on the same page on this one:




[h=1]Romney would allow young immigrants granted waivers to stay[/h]
CNN) – Young undocumented immigrants offered a two year deferral from deportation under President Barack Obama will be allowed to remain in the country if Mitt Romney is elected president, the GOP nominee said in an interview published Tuesday.
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Slinky is at it again. NOw you see his position now you don't cause he changed it. paraphrase " the arizona immigration law is the model for the country?" Really
 
Just like he recently endorsed portions of Obamacare, Mitt now endorses Obama's immigration executive order. does this guy have a convincing bone in his body?
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
Just like he recently endorsed portions of Obamacare, Mitt now endorses Obama's immigration executive order. does this guy have a convincing bone in his body?
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You don't get elected by taking a firm and unwavering stance on the issues. You get elected by telling the audience what it wants to hear.
 
Dittohead not! said:
You don't get elected by taking a firm and unwavering stance on the issues. You get elected by telling the audience what it wants to hear.
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Or in Romney's case, you TRY to get elected by taking every possible stance on every issue.
 
AdamT said:
Or in Romney's case, you TRY to get elected by taking every possible stance on every issue.
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That's the best strategy. Ron Paul took a firm and unwavering stance on the issues, and where did that get him?
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
Just like he recently endorsed portions of Obamacare, Mitt now endorses Obama's immigration executive order. does this guy have a convincing bone in his body?
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Romney would not be radically different than Obama who was not radically different than Bush.
 
Dittohead not! said:
That's the best strategy. Ron Paul took a firm and unwavering stance on the issues, and where did that get him?
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No one wants to hear the truth or a plan. Ron Paul was crucified not only because he told us what his platform was, but because his platform was out of sync with party politics. It is the party which controls everything now.
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
Just like he recently endorsed portions of Obamacare, Mitt now endorses Obama's immigration executive order. does this guy have a convincing bone in his body?
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The day SCOTUS upheld ACA Romney made a speech saying he'd want to ensure portions of it remained as law. How "recently" are you talking?
 
Ikari said:
No one wants to hear the truth or a plan. Ron Paul was crucified not only because he told us what his platform was, but because his platform was out of sync with party politics. It is the party which controls everything now.
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Romney would not be radically different than Obama who was not radically different than Bush.
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You got two right in a row. You must be on a roll.
 
Republicans have shown time and again that they are no more serious about halting illegal immigration than the Democrats are. This happens to be a major issue that I completely disagree with the Democrats' stance on but the GOP offers no real action of their own so it turns into a wash.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
That's the best strategy. Ron Paul took a firm and unwavering stance on the issues, and where did that get him?
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Taking a firm/crazy stance was Paul's problem. How'd being wishy washy work for McCain? OTOH, taking a firm stance seemed to work pretty well for Reagan, Clinton, and Obama.
 
tessaesque said:
The day SCOTUS upheld ACA Romney made a speech saying he'd want to ensure portions of it remained as law. How "recently" are you talking?
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Thanks for making my point. Romney said repeatedly that his first order of business as POTUS would be to repeal the ACA; but now he says otherwise.

Romney says he would keep parts of Obama healthcare law | Reuters

Romney, who faces Obama in the November 6 election, has vowed throughout the campaign to repeal and replace the Obama healthcare law. But asked about the Obama healthcare law on NBC's "Meet the Press" program, Romney said, "Well, I'm not getting rid of all of healthcare reform."
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Ikari said:
Romney would not be radically different than Obama who was not radically different than Bush.
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Except that if we take Romney at his word, he would like to see Roe v. Wade overturned, the ACA repealed (oh wait, not any more), illegal immigrants "self-deport" (oops, not any more), give huge tax breaks to the wealthy. Other than that, he's just like Obama.
 
Dittohead not! said:
That's the best strategy. Ron Paul took a firm and unwavering stance on the issues, and where did that get him?
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Ron Paul is a loon who has looney ideas; that's why he didn't get anywhere.
 
AdamT said:
Taking a firm/crazy stance was Paul's problem. How'd being wishy washy work for McCain? OTOH, taking a firm stance seemed to work pretty well for Reagan, Clinton, and Obama.
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A crazy stance? If you think of limited government as a crazy stance, then you have a point. McCain? He just wasn't a convincing Notbush. Reagan, Clinton, Obama... did we really know where they stood on the issues of the day? I'm not so sure.
 
Dooble said:
Including the illegal ones....
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Dittohead not! said:
A crazy stance? If you think of limited government as a crazy stance, then you have a point. McCain? He just wasn't a convincing Notbush. Reagan, Clinton, Obama... did we really know where they stood on the issues of the day? I'm not so sure.
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Yep, I think that promising to implement massive government cuts ASAP, which would plunge the economy into a depression, is pretty ****ing crazy. The whole Fed conspiracy thing is crazy. Social darwinism -- crazy.

McCain had the same problem Romney has, except not to the same degree. He spent his career playing the role of maverick, and then ran as a party-line Republican.

I think that Reagan, Clinton, and Obama were all quite clear on what they wanted to do. Of course none of them was able to do everything they wanted, but there wasn't much doubt about where they wanted to go.
 
AdamT said:
Yep, I think that promising to implement massive government cuts ASAP, which would plunge the economy into a depression, is pretty ****ing crazy. The whole Fed conspiracy thing is crazy. Social darwinism -- crazy.

McCain had the same problem Romney has, except not to the same degree. He spent his career playing the role of maverick, and then ran as a party-line Republican.

I think that Reagan, Clinton, and Obama were all quite clear on what they wanted to do. Of course none of them was able to do everything they wanted, but there wasn't much doubt about where they wanted to go.
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Tax cutter and limited government Reagan signed into law the biggest tax increase in California history as governor of that state. Obama, well, it depends on who you listen to. He isn't the extreme left peacenik that he was painted to be during the campaign, but then, that wasn't necessarily him saying where he stood. I don't remember what Clinton said he would do. He did turn out to be a decent president, despite the blue dress incident.
 
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