Obama's Other Race Speech?

smb said:

This is a classic example of what happens to a campaign that has no core message and no core beliefs. They begin chasing the news cycle. This has been going on since March or April it seems like. Every time the news cycle starts to go against Romney, which has been almost every day now, they come up with a new "ourtrageous" video or clip or take some words out of context from a speech. They try to "pounce" on this new narrative to change the new reporting. In this case it was that Romney lost control of his debate expectations. It stopped being about how good a debater Obama was and started being about how Romney must completely destroy Obama in order to regain traction in the campaign. With that narrative Romney was sure to come in under expectations and therefore "lose" the debate and by extrapolation the election. Therefore they needed to change the news cycle. However if the campaign had a coherent message with a core set of beliefs this would not be required. They could just continue repeating their message and not worry about the news cycle. But alas, it is impossible to have coherent message with core beliefs if the candidate is incoherent and has no core beliefs (at least politically speaking).

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Lord knows the democrats NEVER EVER EVER in a million years jump on anything like say "the 47%" because their guy has such a noble, coherent message and core belief system. I mean it would be beyond belief if they ran ads focused on something as reactionary as that, but wait.....they DO!!!! Obama must not have a coherent message or any core beliefs..... you said so yourself.

poweRob said:

I'm sure you are an authority on 20 years of Rev Wright... and not just the clips Fox showed you. lol



I'm also pretty sure you don't know a damn thing about who Derrick Bell is.



Yeah.. following your own link,

YEAs 11
NAYs 79​

Surprise Surprise... there's more to it than the simple mindedness you are fronting it as.

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Hilarious projection. Look at who voted for it. You make my case for me.

All Conservative Republicans

Who voted no?

Every Democrat including Barack Obama. Look at the date of the vote:

May 15, 2007, 02:23 PM

The date of Obama's Speech in the DC video is June 2007 in which he claims that the Bush led WH was racist against African Americans because they "withheld" funds to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. He's a demagogue. He's lying to the African Americans in his audience and stirring racial fears and hatred. He knowingly lied while at the same time voting against these same Hurricane Katrina victims from getting Federal Government Assistance. Obama is comparing 9/11 to a natural disaster and telling African Americans Bush doesn't like them. It's radical racist stuff you would normally hear from Reverend Wright's pulpit, not someone claiming to be a serious candidate for President of The United States.

This is the man sold to the American People in 2008. The name of his "speech on race" was a "more perfect union":

Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' - YouTube

Then we have the "real Obama" off the teleprompter lying and dividing people with fear and racism. The fact of the matter is 110B in relief efforts were set aside for victims of Katrina:

http://www.esa.doc.gov/sites/default/files/reports/documents/may2007.pdf

Do we have a "more perfect union" after 4 years under Obama?

Fisher said:

Lord knows the democrats NEVER EVER EVER in a million years jump on anything like say "the 47%" because their guy has such a noble, coherent message and core belief system. I mean it would be beyond belief if they ran ads focused on something as reactionary as that, but wait.....they DO!!!! Obama must not have a coherent message or any core beliefs..... you said so yourself.

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This is what you don't seem to understand. From the very beginning of the campaign the President's campaign proposed the narrative that Romney was a defender of the rich and elite. That he was born wealthy and maintained his wealth through somewhat shady business practices that were detrimental to the working class. That he and his party have predisposition against the poor and working classes in America. I don't want to get into a debate on whether or not that argument has merit but that is the narrative the President's campaign has been pushing even before Romney was the nominee. The 47% video fed into that narrative it didn't change it. Romney message has been muddled and confused since March. He is not settled on a coherent message or a coherent narrative for his campaign. This isn't just liberals saying this but many conservatives. He has constantly chased the news cycle since March. This is just another example of it. Now I go a step further and propose a reason, admittedly biased, as to why the Romney campaign cannot settle on narrative. But the fact that his campaign does not have a coherent message cannot seriously be debated at this point.

smb said:

This is what you don't seem to understand. From the very beginning of the campaign the President's campaign proposed the narrative that Romney was a defender of the rich and elite. That he was born wealthy and maintained his wealth through somewhat shady business practices that were detrimental to the working class. That he and his party have predisposition against the poor and working classes in America. I don't want to get into a debate on whether or not that argument has merit but that is the narrative the President's campaign has been pushing even before Romney was the nominee. The 47% video fed into that narrative it didn't change it. Romney message has been muddled and confused since March. He is not settled on a coherent message or a coherent narrative for his campaign. This isn't just liberals saying this but many conservatives. He has constantly chased the news cycle since March. This is just another example of it. Now I go a step further and propose a reason, admittedly biased, as to why the Romney campaign cannot settle on narrative. But the fact that his campaign does not have a coherent message cannot seriously be debated at this point.

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No! A president that says one thing then the opposite the next week that sounds like.... every candidate in the last 5 presidential elections.........

Universal Truth said:

No! A president that says one thing then the opposite the next week that sounds like.... every candidate in the last 5 presidential elections.........

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Thank you Mr. glass half empty. I am continually amazed that almost total contempt and cynicism can be pawned off as a political position, aka libertarianism.

smb said:

Thank you Mr. glass half empty. I am continually amazed that almost total contempt and cynicism can be pawned off as a political position, aka libertarianism.

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So. Basically, don't point out that Obama makes the exact same idiotic fake responses that continually contradict one another because he is simply lying through his teeth. Or that Romney is doing the exact same thing, because it makes me a Mr. Glass half empty. Sweet, also thanks for summing up an entire political party with you sentence, that was nice. Here let me try.

Thank you Mr. glass always full. I am continually amazed at how little connection to the real world liberals have, not understanding human nature, and not wanting to work but have everything handed to them can be pawned off as a political position. aka Liberals.

You see, anyone can group a bunch of people in a sentence and make it sound like they are all worthless.

Bronson said:

Hilarious projection. Look at who voted for it. You make my case for me.

All Conservative Republicans
Don't look now but Obama's Kenyan birth certificate is under your bed!

Who voted no?




Every Democrat including Barack Obama. Look at the date of the vote:

May 15, 2007, 02:23 PM

The date of Obama's Speech in the DC video is June 2007 in which he claims that the Bush led WH was racist against African Americans because they "withheld" funds to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. He's a demagogue. He's lying to the African Americans in his audience and stirring racial fears and hatred. He knowingly lied while at the same time voting against these same Hurricane Katrina victims from getting Federal Government Assistance. Obama is comparing 9/11 to a natural disaster and telling African Americans Bush doesn't like them. It's radical racist stuff you would normally hear from Reverend Wright's pulpit, not someone claiming to be a serious candidate for President of The United States.

This is the man sold to the American People in 2008. The name of his "speech on race" was a "more perfect union":

Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' - YouTube

Then we have the "real Obama" off the teleprompter lying and dividing people with fear and racism. The fact of the matter is 110B in relief efforts were set aside for victims of Katrina:

http://www.esa.doc.gov/sites/default/files/reports/documents/may2007.pdf

Do we have a "more perfect union" after 4 years under Obama?

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Obama is not the second coming and he is not the anti-christ. Just because he has slightly different political views than you does not make him an evil racist hell bent on destroying America.

As far as answering your question...hell yes we have a more perfect union now then when Obama was elected. That is a no-brainer.

As far as the ammendment vote you are trying to pawn off as horrible those bastions of liberal politics Vitter, Lott and Cochran also voted against it and theirs were the states that were most affected. Please sell your weak argument and conspiracy theories on a more pliant audience. Try the FREEP site it is a better fit.

Universal Truth said:

So. Basically, don't point out that Obama makes the exact same idiotic fake responses that continually contradict one another because he is simply lying through his teeth. Or that Romney is doing the exact same thing, because it makes me a Mr. Glass half empty. Sweet, also thanks for summing up an entire political party with you sentence, that was nice. Here let me try.

Thank you Mr. glass always full. I am continually amazed at how little connection to the real world liberals have, not understanding human nature, and not wanting to work but have everything handed to them can be pawned off as a political position. aka Liberals.


You see, anyone can group a bunch of people in a sentence and make it sound like they are all worthless.

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I didn't say libertarians were worthless...just complete an utter cynics. Cynics have their uses. They are just not much fun at cocktail parties. Cynics are also next to impossible to have a meaningful debate with. They continually point out the most glaring flaws of anything or anyone. Again while this can be a useful exercise in striving for improvement it is not very pratical. If everything and everyone is effed up then nothing and no one is effed up.

As far as glaring generalities goes...every politician is a liar is pretty glaring one.

smb said:

I didn't say libertarians were worthless...just complete an utter cynics. Cynics have their uses. They are just not much fun at cocktail parties. Cynics are also next to impossible to have a meaningful debate with. They continually point out the most glaring flaws of anything or anyone. Again while this can be a useful exercise in striving for improvement it is not very pratical. If everything and everyone is effed up then nothing and no one is effed up.

As far as glaring generalities goes...every politician is a liar is pretty glaring one.

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I'm not saying everyone is effed up by any means. I'm not going to sit around and pick the best of two piles of garbage though. That's like asking me to pick which flavor of cheese to eat when I'm lactose intolerant, I'd rather not eat either. I think that there have been some good presidents, I think Ron Paul would have been a fantastic pick.

A couple of thoughts on this topic:

1. Obama has never tried to hide his tendency to pander to any person or group whom he sees as being able to advance his desires. The media, however, has been shameful in their attempts to downplay or even ignore anything that might put him in a bad light. This story is just another example. To those of us who accurately judged Obama way back in 2007 and 2008, this changes nothing.

2. I have been quite entertained by the liberal antics in this thread, but there really have been no new tactics used. Come on, liberals...your material is getting old. Shake things up and come up with something new, eh?

poweRob said:

Newspapers' daily circulation:

1. WSJ - 2,118,315
2. USA Today - 1,817,446​

Fox News boast ratings that are more than the other 24 hour news networks combined.

The right needs to find a new whipping boy beyond "oh the MSM is holding us down" cry. It's tired and the boy who cried wolf syndrome is killing any belief in it the more that victim card gets played.

Also saying that "we got fox and everything else is leftist"... doesn't fly either.

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Nope,you said WORLDWIDE....Those are national figures

List of newspapers in the world by circulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bronson said:

You don't sit in Reverend Wright's Church for 20 years and use your Justice Department to let the New Black Panther Party off free after intimidating voters at the polls if you are not a racist

You don't implore people to "embrace the teachings of Derrick Bell" if you are not a racist

Here's more bitter irony. Turns out Obama voted NO on a bill that would "prioritize Federal spending to ensure the needs of Louisiana residents who lost their homes as a result of Hurricane Katrina and Rita are met before spending money to design or construct a nonessential visitors center."

U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

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I didn't know about this vote. What was the reason for the no-vote? Unacceptable riders on the bill?

poweRob said:

I'm sure you are an authority on 20 years of Rev Wright... and not just the clips Fox showed you. lol

I'm also pretty sure you don't know a damn thing about who Derrick Bell is.

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But there are a lot of voter who do...who also know what "black liberation theology" is...and who know who "Uncle Frank" Marshall Davis was too.

Loved the accent. Sounded like a real-live field hand.

I waiting for him to start gee'n and haw'n. :rofl

Substantively there wasn't much there that wasn't already known.

As for New Orleans: "We as black people, it's time, it's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild a New Orleans, the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans. And I don't care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day."

apdst said:

Loved the accent. Sounded like a real-live field hand.

I waiting for him to start gee'n and haw'n. :rofl

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You probably think Connecticut George Bush is a real country southerner too. Find me a politician that doesn't pander to their audience with put-on accents.

Nobody will ever top Hillary's "I ain't no ways tired."

Strucky said:

Of course not,because it's your guy we're talking about now!

LMAO

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Hardly. That's just what you tell yourself to excuse your efforts. What's wrong with the Romney video is not so much what he said, but that people he was speaking to wanted that message. But, that's another issue.

pbrauer said:

LMMFAO - the video has been on YouTube for 5 ****ing years.

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Can you provide a link that shows it has been on youtube, in it's full length of 40 mins, unedited? If not, then your statement is a lie.

poweRob said:

Holy **** this reeks of more GOP desperation... to a new level. An old video came up on Romney regarding his 47% speech... you can just tell that the GOP party crew got together in a room after this came out to pull a damage control brainstorm and came up with... "Let's find an old video on OBAMA!!!11111!!!!"

It's so damn obvious. And hilarious.

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Funny how you ignored Obama's racism, and demagoguing.

AliHajiSheik said:

Substantively there wasn't much there that wasn't already known.

As for New Orleans: "We as black people, it's time, it's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild a New Orleans, the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans. And I don't care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day."

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Yeah that's right a "chocolate New Orleans" not an "all American New Orleans". Obama is a racist of the worst kind.

Josie said:

Drudge Report: Fox News Will Air ‘Obama’s Other Race Speech’ Tonight | TheBlaze.com

Fox News’ Sean Hannity said during his radio show Tuesday the “bombshell” video from 2007 will air on “Hannity” tonight at 9 p.m. ET.
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The Drudge Report, and Matt Drudge personally, are promoting the release of a six-year-old video that will supposedly spark controversy and “ignite accusations of racism — in both directions.”
According to Drudge’s personal Twitter account, there is currently an “internal debate” happening at an unidentified news network over whether to air the video tonight, the eve of the first presidential debate....

I don't know what this is about, but I'm gonna bet Hannity is gonna have record ratings tonight.

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Lost me at

Fox News’ Sean Hannity said...

Born Free said:

Yeah that's right a "chocolate New Orleans" not an "all American New Orleans". Obama is a racist of the worst kind.

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He would be if he was the one who said it.

AliHajiSheik said:

He would be if he was the one who said it.

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But this is what he did say:

Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts what role race played in that, but I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry. Number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. And that's just a fact

Why would Obama make a comment like that not knowing or seeing all the facts yet he brings up race. Why did he say “not seeing all the facts what role race played in that”. He said it because he knew it was a white officer who arrested his buddy. Now you think for a minute if a black officer made the arrest Obama would have said that.
Of course in Obama’s mind knowing the officer was white said the “Cambridge police acted stupidly”

As I said he knew the officer was white and Obama makes this remark “what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately”.

The only reason Obama made those comments was he knew the officer was white. If the officer was black Obama would not have said “not seeing all the facts what role race played in that” then he goes on to say without knowing all the facts except he knew the officer was white he says “Cambridge police acted stupidly” then last he gives us a lecture on race. Again he would not have done that if he knew the officer was black. Further by giving us a lecture on race he himself felt because the officer was white he must have been a racist. By Obama inferring he was a racist is the only reason he arrested his buddy. His whole career he’s surrounded himself with racist and the last of which is Van Jones. Obama is a racist.

Yep, Obama is a racist

THe video was nothing shocking or new to learn about Obama. We know he panders to whoever he's speaking to.

Remember in 08 when he and McCain sat down with Rick Warren? Obama was all about denouncing abortion and gay marriage. Where is he today? The man doesn't have a real conviction. Well, I take that back, he has strong convictions of protecting abortion and Planned Parenthood.

I was listening to a little Mark Levin last night on my way home from the office. He was playing the audio of when then Senator Obama made verbal arguments AGAINST the "born alive infant protection act" in Illinois. After listening, I was asking myself, "how could ANY WOMAN, OR MOTHER support this guy"??? The things he said when defending his "no" vote against the bill, which sought to protect babies of failed abortions OUTSIDE THE WOMB, were absolutely reprehensible.

This video isn't a "gotcha" type of video, it's simply a reminder of "who" Obama is. He's a Progressive politician that uses the seperating tactics of "racial politics" in an attempt to "organize" certain groups of Americans against other groups of Americans. It's the politics of division. The precise opposite of the type of politics he said he was about.

"We don't need to be building anymore roads out there in the suburbs!...." That's Obama's way of saying, "we've done enough for White America, it's time to bring "justice" to Black America".

It's pretty clear he deploys the politics of race. He did it throughout BOTH of his books. Remember when he said "white man's greed runs a world in need"? Just more segregationist, racial language that stirs up racial animosity between two sects of American groups. Then he has the audacity to go out in public and ask why America is so polarized. Well, maybe Mr. Obama, it's because of people like you that keep telling blacks in this country that they've never had it as good as whites, and left up to Republicans, they'll never have it as good as whites. That creates angst and animosity. Division.

Here's my question though Mr. Obama.....what is the black unemployment rate in America today? What is the black youth unemployment rate? CBO released a study a couple weeks ago that stated that high gas prices and high unemployment disproportionately effect minority middle class citizens. There are more black people on food stamps under your administration than there were under any other president. What up wit dat?

When you attack liberals with FACTS, they have no excuse, and no defense.....

Born Free said:

But this is what he did say:

Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts what role race played in that, but I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry. Number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. And that's just a fact

Why would Obama make a comment like that not knowing or seeing all the facts yet he brings up race. Why did he say “not seeing all the facts what role race played in that”. He said it because he knew it was a white officer who arrested his buddy. Now you think for a minute if a black officer made the arrest Obama would have said that.
Of course in Obama’s mind knowing the officer was white said the “Cambridge police acted stupidly”

As I said he knew the officer was white and Obama makes this remark “what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately”.

The only reason Obama made those comments was he knew the officer was white. If the officer was black Obama would not have said “not seeing all the facts what role race played in that” then he goes on to say without knowing all the facts except he knew the officer was white he says “Cambridge police acted stupidly” then last he gives us a lecture on race. Again he would not have done that if he knew the officer was black. Further by giving us a lecture on race he himself felt because the officer was white he must have been a racist. By Obama inferring he was a racist is the only reason he arrested his buddy. His whole career he’s surrounded himself with racist and the last of which is Van Jones. Obama is a racist.

Yep, Obama is a racist

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If a black officer falsely arrested someone I have a feeling Obama would say the exact same thing.

He's a racist because he's working towards racial equality? Do you disagree that there's been disproportionate violations by law enforcement against Blacks and Latinos? You white supremacists...