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Romney Losing Donors to GOP House, Senate Candidates | Fox Business

The Romney campaign is experiencing what some officials believe could be the beginning of a mass exodus of big money donors diverting their cash away from the Republican presidential hopeful and toward Republican candidates for the House and Senate races more likely to win in November, the FOX Business Network has learned.


If even remotely true (remember this is Fox News...) then it signals the beginning of the end of Romney within the GOP. The polls might be bad but they can change, but if he starts loosing big time donors and donors in general.. that can only mean that the GOP faithful have given up on him and turned their attention towards winning as many Senate and House seats as possible. Reallly bad news for Romney.

 
Romney Losing Donors to GOP House, Senate Candidates | Fox Business



If even remotely true (remember this is Fox News...) then it signals the beginning of the end of Romney within the GOP. The polls might be bad but they can change, but if he starts loosing big time donors and donors in general.. that can only mean that the GOP faithful have given up on him and turned their attention towards winning as many Senate and House seats as possible. Reallly bad news for Romney.


I am quite certain he is no real danger of running out of money and support among the wealthy. The Koch brothers aren't stupid. They know the masses need entertainment, and what better fun than the political arena.
 
If even remotely true (remember this is Fox News...) then it signals the beginning of the end of Romney within the GOP. The polls might be bad but they can change, but if he starts loosing big time donors and donors in general.. that can only mean that the GOP faithful have given up on him and turned their attention towards winning as many Senate and House seats as possible. Reallly bad news for Romney.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Probably even worse news for the Democrats. Romney is a loser. That's just how it's going to be. However, if that money gets focused on the Congressional races, there's still a chance to maintain at least some level of Republican control in at least one of those bodies. If the focus remained on Romney much longer, there's a solid chance the Democrats could end up with a Majority in both Houses AND the Presidency. Then again, that might not be so good for them.... Two to four years of total control might just ensure the Democrats don't control ANYTHING for a Generation.
 
Probably even worse news for the Democrats. Romney is a loser. That's just how it's going to be. However, if that money gets focused on the Congressional races, there's still a chance to maintain at least some level of Republican control in at least one of those bodies. If the focus remained on Romney much longer, there's a solid chance the Democrats could end up with a Majority in both Houses AND the Presidency. Then again, that might not be so good for them.... Two to four years of total control might just ensure the Democrats don't control ANYTHING for a Generation.

Yes as can be seen by the last year and a half they can really sabotage Obama with stuff like "tea party"
 
Yes as can be seen by the last year and a half they can really sabotage Obama with stuff like "tea party"

True. Now, if I was a Leftist, a Progressive, or a Liberal my ultimate fear would be an Obama re-election where the Democrats regain control of the House and maintain control of the Senate. Especially if the Democrats could pick up a seat or two and get to say 56-57 seats in the Senate. At that point, there would be no way for the Democrats to complain that they couldn't get their agenda through without revision or amendment by the Republicans. That might just be the worst thing to happen to the Democratic Party in 50 years. It would be bad for the Republicans and we Conservative, but it might almowt be worse for the Democrats.

I think THAT is the reason the Republican donors are focusing on the House and Senate. The Presidency is a lost cause. Their only hope now is to ensure at least one chamber of Congress remains as a barier to a Progressive agenda steamrolling through Washington D.C.
 
True. Now, if I was a Leftist, a Progressive, or a Liberal my ultimate fear would be an Obama re-election where the Democrats regain control of the House and maintain control of the Senate. Especially if the Democrats could pick up a seat or two and get to say 56-57 seats in the Senate. At that point, there would be no way for the Democrats to complain that they couldn't get their agenda through without revision or amendment by the Republicans. That might just be the worst thing to happen to the Democratic Party in 50 years. It would be bad for the Republicans and we Conservative, but it might almowt be worse for the Democrats.

I think THAT is the reason the Republican donors are focusing on the House and Senate. The Presidency is a lost cause. Their only hope now is to ensure at least one chamber of Congress remains as a barier to a Progressive agenda steamrolling through Washington D.C.

A year after Dem's took full control things got better and better, now a little over a year after tea party took over the house things are getting stale again. We don't know how this recession is going to turn out yet, but it's coming and so far doesn't look too serious. I'm willing to compromise and call it natural in the economic cycle but saying the government has no effect on the economy doesn't get us anywhere. Short term policies does take 1 to 2 years to take effect and the start changes are generally seen around a year. So if congress changes, and you want to correlate the economy to the government, then you can attribute what happens a year to two down the road to this election.
 
A year after Dem's took full control things got better and better, now a little over a year after tea party took over the house things are getting stale again. We don't know how this recession is going to turn out yet, but it's coming and so far doesn't look too serious. I'm willing to compromise and call it natural in the economic cycle but saying the government has no effect on the economy doesn't get us anywhere. Short term policies does take 1 to 2 years to take effect and the start changes are generally seen around a year. So if congress changes, and you want to correlate the economy to the government, then you can attribute what happens a year to two down the road to this election.

The ECONOMY is the least of my concerns with a Congress and Presidency controlled by the Democrats. Then again the economy is pretty much ALWAYS a secondary concern for me when it comes to politics.
 
The ECONOMY is the least of my concerns with a Congress and Presidency controlled by the Democrats. Then again the economy is pretty much ALWAYS a secondary concern for me when it comes to politics.

What's your main concern?
 
What's your main concern?

Social and Moral Issues. Which is also a large part of why many of these donors are turning away from Romney... he has shown no ability to actually even TALK the TALK, nevermind WALKING it, when it comes to any form of Social Conservatism.
 
Social and Moral Issues. Which is also a large part of why many of these donors are turning away from Romney... he has shown no ability to actually even TALK the TALK, nevermind WALKING it, when it comes to any form of Social Conservatism.

I'm assuming abortion and gay marriage are two of the issues, anything else?
 
I'm assuming abortion and gay marriage are two of the issues, anything else?

Quite a few other things. Gun Control, the War on Drugs, etc.... That's really not the main topic of this thread. As I said, a lot of the reason that Romney is losing donors can be summed up in two concepts.

1. Obama will win. Therefore the Republicans must make sure they retain/take control of at least one chamber of Congress.
2. Romney has no actual moral high ground to stand on. He won't even talk the talk, nevermind walking it. People won't surpport that.
 
Romney Losing Donors to GOP House, Senate Candidates | Fox Business



If even remotely true (remember this is Fox News...) then it signals the beginning of the end of Romney within the GOP. The polls might be bad but they can change, but if he starts loosing big time donors and donors in general.. that can only mean that the GOP faithful have given up on him and turned their attention towards winning as many Senate and House seats as possible. Reallly bad news for Romney.


I think it's even worse news for the Senate and House GOP campaigns. They are slipping in the polls quickly and any effort to put more money into those races may be too little too late. Romney has been a horrible candidate for the GOP all around.
 
What's your main concern?
bringing back the days when women were seen and not heard and couldnt hold public office appears to be the best guess based on his posts
 
I think it's even worse news for the Senate and House GOP campaigns. They are slipping in the polls quickly and any effort to put more money into those races may be too little too late. Romney has been a horrible candidate for the GOP all around.

True, but I think most of the GOP voters realize that a totally Democrat controlled government could be terminal for this nation as they believe in it. I'd be hard pressed to think they won't get out and vote for their Senators/Representatives to ensure that doesn't happen.
 
Probably even worse news for the Democrats. Romney is a loser. That's just how it's going to be. However, if that money gets focused on the Congressional races, there's still a chance to maintain at least some level of Republican control in at least one of those bodies. If the focus remained on Romney much longer, there's a solid chance the Democrats could end up with a Majority in both Houses AND the Presidency. Then again, that might not be so good for them.... Two to four years of total control might just ensure the Democrats don't control ANYTHING for a Generation.

I disagree. I think if the democrats get control of congress, the jobs bills will get passed. Jobs will be created, the economy will begin to boom. People will fall inlove with Obamacare, because they will have better access to health care. Wall Street reform will be strengthened, consumer protection laws will be strengthened, and women's reproductive rights will be protected. Once the US economy starts to boom, the global economy will improve, which will better our reputation around the world. We will move more quickly into renewable energy production, which will open up new markets. I see it all as a win for the US and the world.
 
True, but I think most of the GOP voters realize that a totally Democrat controlled government could be terminal for this nation as they believe in it. I'd be hard pressed to think they won't get out and vote for their Senators/Representatives to ensure that doesn't happen.

I think the GOP is so split that many GOP voters will just stay home out of frustration. I have no doubt that the radical right thinks a Democrat controled government will destroy the country and they will turn out to vote. But, the moderate and the rest of the GOP probably will see this election as a wash. I don't think the moderate GOP voters like the radical direction the GOP is headed. I don't see them making the effort to get out and vote for the radical right GOP candidates. They may turn out and vote if the congressional candidates in their area distances themselves from Romney. I watched the Masachusettes debate last night. Brown was claiming to be an Independent. He is a republican. He was trying his best to keep Romney out of the debate. The problem is, these candidates struggling to win their districts have all backed Romney early on.
 
True. Now, if I was a Leftist, a Progressive, or a Liberal my ultimate fear would be an Obama re-election where the Democrats regain control of the House and maintain control of the Senate. Especially if the Democrats could pick up a seat or two and get to say 56-57 seats in the Senate. At that point, there would be no way for the Democrats to complain that they couldn't get their agenda through without revision or amendment by the Republicans. That might just be the worst thing to happen to the Democratic Party in 50 years. It would be bad for the Republicans and we Conservative, but it might almowt be worse for the Democrats.

I think THAT is the reason the Republican donors are focusing on the House and Senate. The Presidency is a lost cause. Their only hope now is to ensure at least one chamber of Congress remains as a barier to a Progressive agenda steamrolling through Washington D.C.

That all depends on if Polosi is given the Speaker of the House position. She is a bulldog and has a way of getting the Democrat agenda through. Also, the GOP start to move center so they can capture more votes in mid-term elections. THey won't want to be viewed as obstructionists. They will see that this stratagy failed them in the past.
 
I disagree. I think if the democrats get control of congress, the jobs bills will get passed. Jobs will be created, the economy will begin to boom. People will fall inlove with Obamacare, because they will have better access to health care. Wall Street reform will be strengthened, consumer protection laws will be strengthened, and women's reproductive rights will be protected. Once the US economy starts to boom, the global economy will improve, which will better our reputation around the world. We will move more quickly into renewable energy production, which will open up new markets. I see it all as a win for the US and the world.

What you miss is that the vast majority of people are not going to be HELPED by these things. Most of us who actually WORK for a living are going to see LESS in our paychecks rather than MORE in that sort of system. There is a good chance I will LOSE my healthcare if Obama is elected. Many of us don't want to see the US have a better reputation around the world. It may be a win for the US and the World, but it will not be a win for AMERICANS.
 
I think the GOP is so split that many GOP voters will just stay home out of frustration. I have no doubt that the radical right thinks a Democrat controled government will destroy the country and they will turn out to vote. But, the moderate and the rest of the GOP probably will see this election as a wash. I don't think the moderate GOP voters like the radical direction the GOP is headed. I don't see them making the effort to get out and vote for the radical right GOP candidates. They may turn out and vote if the congressional candidates in their area distances themselves from Romney. I watched the Masachusettes debate last night. Brown was claiming to be an Independent. He is a republican. He was trying his best to keep Romney out of the debate. The problem is, these candidates struggling to win their districts have all backed Romney early on.

As a Massachusetts resident and a Conservative, I won't be voting for Scott Brown any more than I will for Romney. Then again, in this state it really doesn't matter because my votes are overwhelmed by the soulless masses here in the Communistwealth.

In terms of the overall, I think even the more moderate Republicans (I'm a Conservative, not a Republican) will turn out for the Congressional elections as a means to equalize the power.

That all depends on if Polosi is given the Speaker of the House position. She is a bulldog and has a way of getting the Democrat agenda through. Also, the GOP start to move center so they can capture more votes in mid-term elections. THey won't want to be viewed as obstructionists. They will see that this stratagy failed them in the past.

Actually, I believe you'll see the GOP move further RIGHT if they are out of power. Though I believe that as they do, you'll see 2-3 Senators and 10-15 Representatives switch parties to the Democrats.
 
What you miss is that the vast majority of people are not going to be HELPED by these things. Most of us who actually WORK for a living are going to see LESS in our paychecks rather than MORE in that sort of system. There is a good chance I will LOSE my healthcare if Obama is elected. Many of us don't want to see the US have a better reputation around the world. It may be a win for the US and the World, but it will not be a win for AMERICANS.

I don't see how the majority of the people can't be helped by massive job creation and a boom on the economy. How will you see less money on your paycheck if these things pass? Also, how will you lose your health care if Obama is elected? Why won't the US having a better reputation around the world be better for Americans? I don't get your logic.
 
As a Massachusetts resident and a Conservative, I won't be voting for Scott Brown any more than I will for Romney. Then again, in this state it really doesn't matter because my votes are overwhelmed by the soulless masses here in the Communistwealth.

In terms of the overall, I think even the more moderate Republicans (I'm a Conservative, not a Republican) will turn out for the Congressional elections as a means to equalize the power.



Actually, I believe you'll see the GOP move further RIGHT if they are out of power. Though I believe that as they do, you'll see 2-3 Senators and 10-15 Representatives switch parties to the Democrats.

I agree on your last statement. The old style conservatives within the GOP do not like the direction the GOP has been moving. SOme of them are retiring because of it. I think you're right that many will switch parties if the GOP move further right. Having said that, It is hard to imagine how much further right the GOP can move. I tend to wonder if the old style conservatives will switch to the Democrat party or Libertarian. That is sure something to think about.
I was wondering what you think about Elizabeth Warren? I have been watching her for some time and I have to say I am impressed with her.
 
I don't see how the majority of the people can't be helped by massive job creation and a boom on the economy.?

First off, I don't believe that another Stimulus or Job Bill is actually going to create any new jobs. Even if they do, they are going to be using MY money (via taxes) to force it, rather than the actual NEED in the economy. Like those new cops and firefighters we get every couple of years who disappear from the payroll the moment the Feds stop providing the money for their salaries. Most of us who PAY taxes are going to get raped (again) for this without really seeing any more help from it than we have from the prior Stimulus and Jobs plans.

How will you see less money on your paycheck if these things pass??

I already have a decent job. I'm not looking for a new one. I will see a reduction in my take-home pay when the taxes go up to pay for these new programs and expansions of existing programs. It's literally that simple.

Also, how will you lose your health care if Obama is elected?

I go into Union negotiations starting in January. When Obama is re-elected, I can almost guarantee that the company proposals for the new contract will include a massive reduction or elimination of our healthcare benefit because of the availability of Obamacare starting in 2014. Since I WILL NOT accept any government healthcare, there is a reasonable possibility that I will not have any healthcare coverage starting in 2014.

Why won't the US having a better reputation around the world be better for Americans?

Because real AMERICANS don't give a **** what anyone outside of the US thinks of us. Generally when I find that we've done something that foreigners LIKE, I find that it's something I disagree with in every way possible.
 
I think it's even worse news for the Senate and House GOP campaigns. They are slipping in the polls quickly and any effort to put more money into those races may be too little too late. Romney has been a horrible candidate for the GOP all around.

The problem is not just that Romney has been a total bad candidate which I agree to some point but it's truly unfair how the media sided with Obama to the point of rigging polls as well. The media bombarding Romney for free on behalf of Obama has been huge. Again, Romney could've ran a better campaign and go after Obama hard on the issues that America faces while Obama focuses on Romney's past and Bain Capital in order to distract voters. I still can't wait for election day and really see what happens... According to Romney's campaign they have totally different inside polls. Let's see what that leads them too...
 
I think the GOP is so split that many GOP voters will just stay home out of frustration. I have no doubt that the radical right thinks a Democrat controled government will destroy the country and they will turn out to vote. But, the moderate and the rest of the GOP probably will see this election as a wash. I don't think the moderate GOP voters like the radical direction the GOP is headed. I don't see them making the effort to get out and vote for the radical right GOP candidates. They may turn out and vote if the congressional candidates in their area distances themselves from Romney. I watched the Masachusettes debate last night. Brown was claiming to be an Independent. He is a republican. He was trying his best to keep Romney out of the debate. The problem is, these candidates struggling to win their districts have all backed Romney early on.

Of course Brown wanted to stay away from being a Republican because he's running in a liberal state just like a Democrat candidate would distance him/herself from Obama in the south....nothing new here just politics
 
The problem is not just that Romney has been a total bad candidate which I agree to some point but it’s truly unfair how the media sided with Obama to the point of rigging polls as well.
Romney is a “total bad candidate” but widespread polling showing him behind, and losing ground for about a month now, is because the polls (including those from consistently right leaning outlets) are rigged? :roll:
 
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