Chris Wallace To Paul Ryan: 'Why Are You And Romney Losing?'

lpast · Sep 30, 2012

So its obamas fault your losing Paulie...ok cant be that far right agenda thingy you got going can it ?? lol

Chris Wallace got tough with Paul Ryan on 'Fox News Sunday' this week.

Discussing the economy, Wallace asked Ryan, "Why aren't you guys running away with this race? Let me pull up some of the statistics. Unemployment is 8.1 percent. No president has won reelection with unemployment that high since FDR ... given all of that, why are you and Romney losing at this point?”
Wallace also noted that no president has won reelection with GDP growth as low as the current 1.3 percent since the U.S. started measuring GDP growth.
“We’re gonna win this race,” Ryan said, to which Wallace responded, “But you’re not at this point. You’re losing.”
Recent polls have shown Obama leading Romney in major swing states. Polls also show that Obama's approval rating has seen a bump following the Democratic National Convention.
Wallace wondered, “The fact that the message has not gotten through as effectively as it could, so far, is that your fault, the Romney campaign’s fault or is it the voters’ fault?”
"It's not the voter's fault," said Ryan. "I think the president has done an effective job at trying to confuse the issue, at trying to distort our postions, at trying to distract people, but at the end of the day I don't think that's going to work."

pbrauer · Sep 30, 2012

lpast said:
So its obamas fault your losing Paulie...ok cant be that far right agenda thingy you got going can it ?? lol

Chris Wallace got tough with Paul Ryan on 'Fox News Sunday' this week.

Discussing the economy, Wallace asked Ryan, "Why aren't you guys running away with this race? Let me pull up some of the statistics. Unemployment is 8.1 percent. No president has won reelection with unemployment that high since FDR ... given all of that, why are you and Romney losing at this point?”
Wallace also noted that no president has won reelection with GDP growth as low as the current 1.3 percent since the U.S. started measuring GDP growth.
“We’re gonna win this race,” Ryan said, to which Wallace responded, “But you’re not at this point. You’re losing.”
Recent polls have shown Obama leading Romney in major swing states. Polls also show that Obama's approval rating has seen a bump following the Democratic National Convention.
Wallace wondered, “The fact that the message has not gotten through as effectively as it could, so far, is that your fault, the Romney campaign’s fault or is it the voters’ fault?”
"It's not the voter's fault," said Ryan. "I think the president has done an effective job at trying to confuse the issue, at trying to distort our postions, at trying to distract people, but at the end of the day I don't think that's going to work."

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specklebang · Oct 1, 2012

Too bad. If I ever see a specific plan that makes sense and is politically plausible, I'll vote for that plan. Since neither candidate has any sort of plan that they dare disclose, I won't vote for either of them.

If it was a good plan, you think they (either) wouldn't shout it from the rooftops? Or are we all gonna get rich by a mystery formula, so they don't want the secret of alchemy to get out ahead of its time.

Obama - 4.732 new programs, some will work in some caes but because most of the money will go to the bureaucrats who will farm it out to connected contractors all of whom are rewarde for getting more clients and thus doing a piss poor job of helping those who DESERVE help and REWARDING those who are grabbing a free lunch. Cost - 1-bizillion dollars
Romney - Will cut his own taxes and instead of only having a 15-million dollar a year income he'll have a 17-million dollar a year income. Now that he can afford it, he will give away car elevators to his friends for X-mas. No elevator mechanic will be unemployed ever again. Cost - 1-bizillion dollars

Decisions, decisions.

Camlon · Oct 1, 2012

lpast said:
So its obamas fault your losing Paulie...ok cant be that far right agenda thingy you got going can it ?? lol

What far right campaign? Romney was the moderate candidate in the republican nomination. He was the one who liberals told republicans to vote for and beside mistakes I can't think of many far right positions that Romnney has proposed after he got nominated. It was gaffes that destroyed Romney.

What do you expect Ryan to say? Do you think he is going to admit the truth and say it is Romneys fault for running such a terrible campaign?

obvious Child · Oct 1, 2012

Camlon said:
What far right campaign?

The Ryan Budget. Romney himself isn't even Conservative. But picking Ryan has given the Democrats all kinds of goodies.

Romney was the moderate candidate in the republican nomination. He was the one who liberals told republicans to vote for and beside mistakes I can't think of many far right positions that Romnney has proposed after he got nominated. It was gaffes that destroyed Romney.

I agree, some of the gaffes are causing serious trouble, but I do think the Ryan choice is really coming out to bite him in the ass. The Democrats are now going hard on the Ryan proposal, especially Medicare in states where it matters. I said before that Ryan was a poor choice and may cost the Republicans the White House.

What do you expect Ryan to say? Do you think he is going to admit the truth and say it is Romneys fault for running such a terrible campaign?

Actually Ryan should just shut the hell up and go away. That man is nothing but compulsive liar these days, whether it be on dismantling the space program, or going to a company that exists because of an SBA loan and berating Obama on his "you didn't build that" speech.

Mycroft · Oct 1, 2012

lpast said:
So its obamas fault your losing Paulie...ok cant be that far right agenda thingy you got going can it ?? lol

Chris Wallace got tough with Paul Ryan on 'Fox News Sunday' this week.

Discussing the economy, Wallace asked Ryan, "Why aren't you guys running away with this race? Let me pull up some of the statistics. Unemployment is 8.1 percent. No president has won reelection with unemployment that high since FDR ... given all of that, why are you and Romney losing at this point?”
Wallace also noted that no president has won reelection with GDP growth as low as the current 1.3 percent since the U.S. started measuring GDP growth.
“We’re gonna win this race,” Ryan said, to which Wallace responded, “But you’re not at this point. You’re losing.”
Recent polls have shown Obama leading Romney in major swing states. Polls also show that Obama's approval rating has seen a bump following the Democratic National Convention.
Wallace wondered, “The fact that the message has not gotten through as effectively as it could, so far, is that your fault, the Romney campaign’s fault or is it the voters’ fault?”
"It's not the voter's fault," said Ryan. "I think the president has done an effective job at trying to confuse the issue, at trying to distort our postions, at trying to distract people, but at the end of the day I don't think that's going to work."

Sounds to me like Ryan gave a clear, concise and accurate answer to the question. Personally, I find it refreshing to hear a candidate do so...instead of spin or dodge.

btw, I also found interesting Ryan's statement about Obama's foreign policy. Again, clear, concise and accurate:

Camlon · Oct 1, 2012

obvious Child said:
The Ryan Budget. Romney himself isn't even Conservative. But picking Ryan has given the Democrats all kinds of goodies.

Picking Ryan helped Romney. He increased his polling by about 3% immediately after picking Ryan and despite all of Romneys gaffes and the democratic convention he has only dropped to the same level as when Ryan got nominated. Nothing that Democrats tried to hit Ryan with sticked. Now Democrats are not even talking about Ryan, but Ryan is supposedly what is making Romney fail.

I agree, some of the gaffes are causing serious trouble, but I do think the Ryan choice is really coming out to bite him in the ass. The Democrats are now going hard on the Ryan proposal, especially Medicare in states where it matters. I said before that Ryan was a poor choice and may cost the Republicans the White House.

Except they are not talking about Ryan. Not talking about him is not going hard. Last Obama ad against Ryan on youtube was 30 August.

I can give you a way Democrats can lose this election. Start talking about Paul Ryan again and stop talking about Romney. Also, don't be too sure the medicare attacks will be very successful. The Obama ads I have seen hasn't been very strong and they are targeting Romney, not Ryan. Also, Republicans will answer with claiming that democrats are transferring money from Medicare to obamacare.

Actually Ryan should just shut the hell up and go away. That man is nothing but compulsive liar these days, whether it be on dismantling the space program, or going to a company that exists because of an SBA loan and berating Obama on his "you didn't build that" speech.

I get it, you hate Paul Ryan, but he is not the reason Romney is losing. The reason Romney is losing is Romney.

Also, Romney - Ryan is not your candidate, Obama - Biden is. So why should he shut up for your sake?

lpast · Oct 1, 2012

Camlon said:
What far right campaign? Romney was the moderate candidate in the republican nomination. He was the one who liberals told republicans to vote for and beside mistakes I can't think of many far right positions that Romnney has proposed after he got nominated. It was gaffes that destroyed Romney.

What do you expect Ryan to say? Do you think he is going to admit the truth and say it is Romneys fault for running such a terrible campaign?

Thats the point, the far right were unhappy with romney forced him to the right on issues and forced him to choose paul ryan..If romny loses it wont be him that lsoes the election it will be the far right agenda

shiang · Oct 1, 2012

Camlon said:
What far right campaign? Romney was the moderate candidate in the republican nomination. He was the one who liberals told republicans to vote for and beside mistakes I can't think of many far right positions that Romnney has proposed after he got nominated. It was gaffes that destroyed Romney.

What do you expect Ryan to say? Do you think he is going to admit the truth and say it is Romneys fault for running such a terrible campaign?

After doing some extensive research one will find out Romney tries to come off more to the right than even he really is in the GENERAL election. One might scratch their heads and wonder WTF? But I think it shows a lack of leadership and incompetence.

lpast · Oct 1, 2012

Mycroft said:
Sounds to me like Ryan gave a clear, concise and accurate answer to the question. Personally, I find it refreshing to hear a candidate do so...instead of spin or dodge.

btw, I also found interesting Ryan's statement about Obama's foreign policy. Again, clear, concise and accurate:

LOL a clear concise perfect "DODGE" of the question

shiang · Oct 1, 2012

Found this video while watching the last thought it was mildly enertaining

FOX NEWS CALLS PAUL RYAN A LIAR?! - YouTube

Camlon · Oct 1, 2012

lpast said:
Thats the point, the far right were unhappy with romney forced him to the right on issues and forced him to choose paul ryan..If romny loses it wont be him that lsoes the election it will be the far right agenda

As pointed out above, Paul Ryan does not seem to be the issue here or democrats wouldn't completely ignore him. Last ad against Ryan on Obama's youtube page was 30 August. Ryan is not the cause of Romneys problems, Romney is the cause of Romneys problems.

Many of Romneys problems have nothing to do with the nomination at all. The nomination did not force him to say the 47% comment. The nomination did not make him socially awkward. The nomination did not force him to say he likes firing people or paint his skin orange to pander to Hispanics. And the nomination did not force him to pander to the left so he could take office in Massachusettes and then reverse all of his positions to become President. A governor from for instance Utah would have done well.

If a tea party candidate won, then you could really say at is a loss of the far right agenda, but Romney was the candidate liberals and the GOP establishment recommended. Republicans will see this as a failure of picking a moderate candidate, not a failure of the far right agenda. The only way they can see it as an failure of the far right agenda is by picking a far right candidate.

Camlon · Oct 1, 2012

shiang said:
After doing some extensive research one will find out Romney tries to come off more to the right than even he really is in the GENERAL election. One might scratch their heads and wonder WTF? But I think it shows a lack of leadership and incompetence.

I think it shows that he is scared of losing his base. Had his personal aspects and his consistency been better then he could have pandered more to the left. But if he decided to go to the left now he risk losing everyone.

Mycroft · Oct 1, 2012

lpast said:
LOL a clear concise perfect "DODGE" of the question

A dodge??? He didn't dodge the question at all. He clearly answered the question...that he'll let others decide if Obama engaged in a cover up and that there are Republicans and Democrats calling for an investigation. It's a good answer because he doesn't presume to judge Obama on the issue of a cover up. He then goes on to address the upcoming statement by Romney and explains how bad Obama's foreign policy really is.

lpast · Oct 1, 2012

Camlon said:
As pointed out above, Paul Ryan does not seem to be the issue here or democrats wouldn't completely ignore him. Last ad against Ryan on Obama's youtube page was 30 August. Ryan is not the cause of Romneys problems, Romney is the cause of Romneys problems.

Many of Romneys problems have nothing to do with the nomination at all. The nomination did not force him to say the 47% comment. The nomination did not make him socially awkward. The nomination did not force him to say he likes firing people or paint his skin orange to pander to Hispanics. And the nomination did not force him to pander to the left so he could take office in Massachusettes and then reverse all of his positions to become President. A governor from for instance Utah would have done well.

If a tea party candidate won, then you could really say at is a loss of the far right agenda, but Romney was the candidate liberals and the GOP establishment recommended. Republicans will see this as a failure of picking a moderate candidate, not a failure of the far right agenda. The only way they can see it as an failure of the far right agenda is by picking a far right candidate.

You can spin it anyway you want to...but since Paul Ryan being chosen romni has gone nothing but down...Its most definitely the far right agenda that has turned off middleclass america....If it was a far right candidate he would be losing in even greater numbers....

lpast · Oct 1, 2012

Mycroft said:
A dodge??? He didn't dodge the question at all. He clearly answered the question...that he'll let others decide if Obama engaged in a cover up and that there are Republicans and Democrats calling for an investigation. It's a good answer because he doesn't presume to judge Obama on the issue of a cover up. He then goes on to address the upcoming statement by Romney and explains how bad Obama's foreign policy really is.

"Why aren't you guys running away with this race? Let me pull up some of the statistics. Unemployment is 8.1 percent. No president has won reelection with unemployment that high since FDR ... given all of that, why are you and Romney losing at this point?”
Wallace also noted that no president has won reelection with GDP growth as low as the current 1.3 percent since the U.S. started measuring GDP growth.
“We’re gonna win this race,” Ryan said, to which Wallace responded, “But you’re not at this point. You’re losing.”
Recent polls have shown Obama leading Romney in major swing states. Polls also show that Obama's approval rating has seen a bump following the Democratic National Convention.

Fisher · Oct 1, 2012

I personally think that Romney is starting to hone in on the issues in a relate-able way to swing voters. This weekend I saw 2 ads that I recall--One was Obama trying to play up the 47% thing with crappy sound showing workers and a pretty slick Obama is killing coal commercial by Romney with clear quotes from Obama. I felt that the Obama ad played to the base at best and the Romney ad played to the economic fears mainstream folks have. It could be an effective way to turn the debate around.

Mycroft · Oct 1, 2012

lpast said:
"Why aren't you guys running away with this race? Let me pull up some of the statistics. Unemployment is 8.1 percent. No president has won reelection with unemployment that high since FDR ... given all of that, why are you and Romney losing at this point?”
Wallace also noted that no president has won reelection with GDP growth as low as the current 1.3 percent since the U.S. started measuring GDP growth.
“We’re gonna win this race,” Ryan said, to which Wallace responded, “But you’re not at this point. You’re losing.”
Recent polls have shown Obama leading Romney in major swing states. Polls also show that Obama's approval rating has seen a bump following the Democratic National Convention.

Cool...you don't agree with his answer. Fine.

But if you say he dodged the question, you are flat out wrong.

lpast · Oct 1, 2012

Mycroft said:
Cool...you don't agree with his answer. Fine.

But if you say he dodged the question, you are flat out wrong.

As usual you keep making irrelevent statements and your reading comprehension is lacking...I will not beat this horse forever...

Dwight · Oct 1, 2012

Camlon said:
What far right campaign? Romney was the moderate candidate in the republican nomination.

In analogy, that is like being the most sober student at the frat kegger. It just means he's the last one to puke in the kitchen sink. Because he was like that insecure guy that is trying to compensate and get socially accepted by chugging hard because that's what all the others are doing.

He was the one who liberals told republicans to vote for

There was a lot of pleading/challenging for the nomination of Cain, Newt, or Santorum.

Huntsman was really the one that got the most on-the-whole favourable nods from leftish pundit press but I think that had a lot to do with him being the only one of two (Johnson being the other) that refused to get on the anti-intellectual demagogue wagon, and very little being known nationally about his Governor record. Being it was a Deep Red state, there are things he signed that would have been tough nationally once they were talked about.

and beside mistakes I can't think of many far right positions that Romnney has proposed after he got nominated.

Off the top of my head I don't recall of many positions he has clearly proposed at all. But exactly why the divide between primary and not? We are suppose to all collectively forget him taking the harshest stance of all nominees on immigration? You don't recall Perry's "I don't think you have a heart" comment?

It was gaffes that destroyed Romney.

What gaffes?

What do you expect Ryan to say? Do you think he is going to admit the truth and say it is Romneys fault for running such a terrible campaign?

Fair enough. Yeah, I don't expect him to answer in any other way than attacking the opponent candidate [EDIT:and of course reprise the role of Baghdad Bob in denying losing]. That's what VPs do, right?

I do wonder though if it occurs to him that a good number of his own stances are losers, nationally?

wolfman24 · Oct 1, 2012

lpast said:
Thats the point, the far right were unhappy with romney forced him to the right on issues and forced him to choose paul ryan..If romny loses it wont be him that lsoes the election it will be the far right agenda

To call Romney a moderate is like calling the tea party mainstream. Its just not so.

What killed Romney was Romney. Adding Ryan only put some salt on the wound. If the Reps had chosen a real moderate (which they could not have since the Tea Party central committee would not have allowed it who knew how to communicate with regular folks, did not have off shore bank accounts, did not send jobs overseas and fire thousands and who had a clue about the middle class, the addition of Ryan might have worked. Instead they chose the Dukoukis(sp) of the Republican world.

Mycroft · Oct 1, 2012

lpast said:
As usual you keep making irrelevent statements and your reading comprehension is lacking...I will not beat this horse forever...

LOL!!!

Okay. I don't blame you for not acknowledging that you made a boneheaded statement: "LOL a clear concise perfect "DODGE" of the question". I know how hard that must be for you to do.

lpast · Oct 1, 2012

Mycroft said:
LOL!!!

Okay. I don't blame you for not acknowledging that you made a boneheaded statement: "LOL a clear concise perfect "DODGE" of the question". I know how hard that must be for you to do.

Know what your ridiculous man...he dodged the question its right there now your on ignore byebye...you just troll for pennies

lpast · Oct 1, 2012

wolfman24 said:
To call Romney a moderate is like calling the tea party mainstream. Its just not so.

What killed Romney was Romney. Adding Ryan only put some salt on the wound. If the Reps had chosen a real moderate (which they could not have since the Tea Party central committee would not have allowed it who knew how to communicate with regular folks, did not have off shore bank accounts, did not send jobs overseas and fire thousands and who had a clue about the middle class, the addition of Ryan might have worked. Instead they chose the Dukoukis(sp) of the Republican world.

I totally disagree with you...but thats what the world is all about right

wolfman24 · Oct 1, 2012

lpast said:
I totally disagree with you...but thats what the world is all about right

I appreciate the sentiment. To bad it is more often expressed. (eg You have your opinion and I have mine or We'll just agree to disagree ok?) Instead your an idiot and I'm right which I have done on occasion. the one I hate though is = this could not possibly have happened to you! Riiiiight

Thanks again

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