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Obama Projecting to win 90%+ Black Vote, But if Romney wins 75%+ of the White Vote...

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poweRob said:
I think you will fail at your objective being that you can't even see that this sentence of yours at the beginning of your monologue is a complete paradox.
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I believe you are missing the essential Element of Principle 0.


0] All people, regardless of history or minority/majority status, have a right to gather, discuss, and politically advocate the interests of their race, ethnicity, creed, gender, political viewpoint, religion or sexual preferences. Advocating the Interests primarily means seeking to insure truly EQUAL treatment. Advocating the Interests does NOT include asking for or demanding special preferences, treatment, set-asides, payments, benefits, advantages, reparations or exemptions.


This Principle states that all people have a right to advocate their Racial Interests, but that advocacy is limited to asking for NOTHING MORE and hopefully nothing less than exactly what every other race gets.


You are justified in asking for EQUALITY.


You are not justified in asking for special preferences and spoils.


In the Ending Paragraphs of the OP, I go on state that living by these principles, means that you will inherently take on the challenge of insuring that all other races are threated equally.


How is that a Paradox with my goals?


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Kurmugeon said:
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President Obama and his BLT wing of the Democrats have openly stated that they no longer are even attempting to represent White Working Class Americans.
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Since when?
 
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poweRob said:
I think you will fail at your objective being that you can't even see that this sentence of yours at the beginning of your monologue is a complete paradox.
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In paradox there lies the deepest of truths. However... the first paragraph is not a paradox, it's a logic fallacy through false implications.

Such as when he says

"If it is acceptable for Black Americans to make their voting decisions based primarily on their RACIAL interests...


Is it also acceptable for White Americans to make their voting decisions based primarily on their Racial Interests?


If it is acceptable for Black Americans to demand "Equality", is it not also acceptable for White Americans to demand true EQUALITY!?"

He implies that Black Americans make voting decisions based on race while White Americans don't. Both parts of the statement are partially true or partially false, if you just add the word 'some' before black and white it would make a true statement.

In the 2nd sentence he implies white people don't demand equality, also not true. There's plenty of outcry against measures such as affirmative action (boosting minority GPA/SAT to get in better colleges), which I think has some validity. The issue itself is complicated, on the one hand everyone should be treated equal. On the other, you can argue that since Whites and Asians on average have better resources and financial means than Blacks and Hispanics, two individuals having the same GPA/SAT, the one with less resources is likely more "capable".
 
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shiang said:
Since when?
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The Future of the Obama Coalition - NYTimes.com


November 27, 2011, 11:34 pm 509 Comments

The Future of the Obama Coalition

By THOMAS B. EDSALL


For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.
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shiang said:
Since when?
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Obama to abandon white working class? « The Greenroom

Obama to abandon white working class?






posted at 3:39 pm on November 28, 2011 by Karl


Not quite. Slate’s resident JournoLister, Dave Weigel, apparently thinks it’s raaaacist of FoxNation to highlight the most provocative part of an NYT post by Thomas Edsall making the claim. Weigel is particularly taken by a photo of “Obama gritting his teeth and waving ‘see ya,’ while flanked by his wife and an unidentified black guy. Others might figure the photo was selected for the first part, not the second, but others don’t have a history of secretly trying to shape media coverage of Obamacare while pretending to be covering the right from the inside. At least Weigel is imputing bad motive openly now.

The sad part is that Weigel kinda gets the real story right. Here’s Edsall’s hot-button lede:


For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

The blogosphere is mostly focused on the second sentence. Before casually flinging the race card, Weigel correctly emphasizes the first: “The funny thing here is that ‘abandoning’ the white working class means ‘continuing to lose voters who have been voting Republican since 1966.’ ” It’s not clear whether Weigel is implicitly flinging the race card again by selecting 1966 as his benchmark, but between 1960 and 2004, Democrats lost 12 percent of the non-Southern white men and 17 percent of white men in the South.
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Kurmugeon said:
Obama to abandon white working class? « The Greenroom
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If you know me then you know my opinion of articles writen by individuals. ...They're just opinions.

One article is under the "opinion pages" of the New York Times. Other is on a site I've never heard of.

Even if Obama believe most white working class will vote for Romney (I don't know if that's true but I'll take your word for it). I have yet to see, and doubt he would say "I'm going to abandon white working class votes". It's stupid to not try to win every possible vote you can.

There's a difference between not having the majority in a certain demographic, and completely abadoning the whole group.

The problem with Romney's 47% is he's completely abandoning their vote "I'll never convince them to vote for me" and even more importantly he sounded resentful "They fell ENTITLED to ...you name it". Ultimately this is just one of many topics and is not going to be the soul, or even key definer of this election but it does or at least should hurt Romney somewhat.
 
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poweRob said:
Really? You read my posts and they are all about race and how the white man is being held back? It's either that or you are too stupid to know what "pot meet kettle" statement means.

Being that I'm an optimist, I'm going to just assume that you are not super stupid and are instead hyper intelligent and you see white power racism in my posts that resembles yours that even I didn't know I was doing.

I guess I'm going to have to start hating Danahrea...
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^NOTE - If he starts hating me, it won't be because I am part Jewish and have black family. It will be because I fart a lot. LOL.
 
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Kurmugeon said:
President Obama and his BLT wing of the Democrats
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If there were a Bacon Party, I would join it today.
 
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danarhea said:
^NOTE - If he starts hating me, it won't be because I am part Jewish and have black family. It will be because I fart a lot. LOL.
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Well, that's why I hate you. Luckily the smell doesn't come through on line. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Obama Projecting to win 90%+ Black Vote, But if Romney wins 75%+ of the White Vot

I am hardly the only person on the Internet Objecting to the Problem of Government Institutionalized Racial Discrimination:


Obama Wants to Increase Affirmative Action | Conservative Heritage Times
Obama Wants to Increase Affirmative ActionWalter

Posted under Affirmative Action & Race

Apparently the Obama regime is trying to muscle colleges and universities to increase their race-based affirmative action quotas. As noted by Steve Sailer, “the Affirmative Action President wants, unsurprisingly, more
Affirmative Action.” The NY Times reports:

“The Obama administration on Friday urged colleges and universities to get creative in improving racial diversity at their campuses, throwing out a Bush-era interpretation of recent Supreme Court rulings that limited affirmative action in admissions.”

This is part of Obama’s new election strategy. As reported by the NY Times last week, the Democratic Party is now openly abandoning working-class whites in favor of blacks and mestizos. In other words, give your new constituency more goodies (college admission handouts), while screwing over your old European-American constituency.

Unfortunately, college seats are a finite resource. For every affirmative action token, it means that a more qualified white person will be turned down. Furthermore, two recent studies show that lower-income whites already are the most discriminated against group in college admissions.

Thomas Espenshade and Alexandria Radford have found:
“When lower-class whites are matched with lower-class blacks and other non-whites the degree of the non-white advantage becomes astronomical: lower-class Asian applicants are seven times as likely to be accepted to the competitive private institutions as similarly qualified whites, lower-class Hispanic applicants eight times as likely, and lower-class blacks ten times as likely. These are enormous differences and reflect the fact that lower-class whites were rarely accepted to the private institutions...
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I am one of a group of people who have banded together to try to LEAD White Americans to vote for their Racial Interests.


President Obama and his Administration is NOT in the Best Interests of Low-Mid Income White Americans.
 
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I know a white supremacist that has missed 8 days of work so far this year. I'm sure he blames affirmative action. :lol:
 
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danarhea said:
With all due respect, this sludge does not represent the Republican Party.
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Mitt Romney's official platform is basically saying 47% of Americans are of poor character. Because they don't pay federal income taxes.

Example of said group of victims who will never take personal responsibility:

Deployed combat troops.
 
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Deuce said:
Mitt Romney's official platform is basically saying 47% of Americans are of poor character. Because they don't pay federal income taxes.

Example of said group of victims who will never take personal responsibility:

Deployed combat troops.
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You didn't build that
 
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lonewolf said:
You didn't build that
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Understand, while I think that President Obama is at the top of the list of politicians that the American White Voters Solidarity Movement will organize a Bloc Vote against,
largely because his creation of many new and increased Government Institutionalized Anti-White Racial Discrimination Preferences and Policies...


Despite President Obama being the Largest Political Opponent to Racial Equality in America.


The American White Voters Solidarity Movement is NOT a movement which begins and ends with Obama.


President Obama, and his huge increases in Government Institutionalized Discrimination is the the straw which broke the camel’s back.


The American White Voters Solidarity Movement is going to be working to remove from the American political scene ANY politician which advocates Racial Preferences for ANY person of ANY race.


We will be just as active at condemning and fighting any Republican or TEA party candidate that would be foolish enough to advocate "Special" privileges and preferences for Whites as we are now condemning President Obama and other Democrats for advocating racial preferences for non-whites.


We support EQUALITY, nothing more, and nothing less.


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lonewolf said:
You didn't build that
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Not by themselves.
 
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Velvet Elvis said:
Dude, I hate to break it to you but your posts are a little...uh...tinged with racism.
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Would you call Obama Racist because he pursues the support of the NAACP and a majority of the Black Vote?


Why is it "Racist" for a White American to vote their racial interest, but socially acceptable for any other race to vote their racial interests?


Exactly how do you define "Racist"? When a Liberal loses?
 
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Thorgasm said:
I know a white supremacist that has missed 8 days of work so far this year. I'm sure he blames affirmative action. :lol:
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I have watched some "Designated Minorities" blame Whitie for their own personal failings all day everyday for thirty plus years... :lol:


The difference is, nobody gives a set of "Racial Set Aside" college scholarship or jobs program to the white supremacist ( oh yes, they are out there ) for his griping.


I have also watched completely-innocent-of-committing-any-racism White Americans suffer great injustice when it comes to receiving equal treatment from our Government.


It is well past time for the Government Institutionalized Racial Discrimination to END!


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The OP is a white segregationist Stormfront message. There is no "Black Voter Solidarity Movement" - so all the crap about a counter "White Voter Solitarity Movement" is just racist crap.
 
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joko104 said:
The OP is a white segregationist Stormfront message. There is no "Black Voter Solidarity Movement" - so all the crap about a counter "White Voter Solitarity Movement" is just racist crap.
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How?


How is it racist to advocate for nothing more and nothing less than absolute EQUAL treatment of all Americans with regard to race?



It does not advocate segregation in any way. It is not allied or even mention stormfront (whatever that is) in any way.



You state that there is not "Black Solidarity Movement", Prove it!



Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com


rac•ism
noun

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.



ra•cial
adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one race or the races of humankind.
2. arising, occurring, or existing because of differences between races or racial attitudes: racial conflict; racial motivations.




I have advocated that White American band together to demand nothing more and nothing less than EQUAL treatment, and I have made it abundantly clear that I advocate that position BECAUSE I beleive that there is NOT a difference between people based on their race.


Because we are all the same in aptittue and ability, giving one or more particular racial groups a huge set of never ending and always increasing set of Government Institutionalized Racial Preferences and Advantages, you are creating a great injustice to the denied group of White Americans.


I am Advocating EQUALITY of Treatment based on a Beleif in Equality of the Races. What I am advocating may be RAICAL, but by the very definition of the Terms, is NOT Racist.



You Sir, and those like you, are the "pre-judging" Racists here!
 
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Re: Obama Projecting to win 90%+ Black Vote, But if Romney wins 75%+ of the White Vot

So now that we've seen a bit more of Obama / Biden compared to Romney / Ryan, which pair better represent the interests of working class White Americans?
 
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Thorgasm said:
I know a white supremacist that has missed 8 days of work so far this year. I'm sure he blames affirmative action. :lol:
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I know lots of Liberals who have been profiting from racial pandering for forty plus years.


I'm sure they're in denial to the damage Government Institutionalized Racial Discrimination is doing to Low-Mid Income Working White Americans.


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