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Skewed Polls? Only if FOX News has become Liberal. But why?

danarhea

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Here's the real deal:

Gallup has Obama up by 6 points. Bloomburg has Obama up by 6, and they cannot be considered Liberal by any stretch of the imagination. And FOX News has Obama up by 5 points. FOX News cannot be considered Liberal by any stretch of a drug-induced hallucination. Yet Team Romney continues to cry about Liberal bias in polls. They do point to Rasmussen, which has the race tied nationally, but even the House of Ras has Obama ahead in almost all of the swing states, some by comfortable margins. OK, the House of Ras is Liberal too.

How does team Romney get around that? It relies upon a blog that is fudging the data, and claims that Romney is going to win in a landslide. But why? Is Romney desperate? Is he whining? The answer is more straightforward than you might think. It is a fact that, if one side takes a large enough lead, turnout tends to be depressed for the other side on election day. This is something that the Republican Party cannot afford, as this would affect all the close downballot races in the Senate and the House.

So, with all this in mind, here is my own analysis:

1) I think Romney knows the truth regarding his chances at this time.

2) I also believe that team Romney's talk about poll bias, along with the fake polling site, is another tool in the political toolbox, and is being used to shore up support in downballot races.

3) Finally, this election is not over, and if Obama slips up, Romney can come back. But that might be difficult if the party faithful see him so far back that some of them still don't get out and vote, thinking it's a losing cause.

4) And even if Romney loses, there are still downballot races where the GOP needs their base to get out and vote. The Senate, and possibly the House too, are at stake. Although I believe that a Democratic takeover of the House is improbable, Republican chances of a Senate takeover are higher than that.

So, in the end, Romney is acting like he has acted in the past - As a cunning businessman, who is thinking along the same kinds of logical lines that made him successful in business, and not giving up. Romney is playing a bad hand, which he dealt himself, but is playing that hand like a pro. In spite of what I think about Romney, I do like the fact that he does not give up, and keeps on fighting. That, in itself, is not a bad qualification to be president. I still think he is going to lose, but when he goes down to defeat, if the GOP still holds the House, and especially if they manage to take the Senate, Romney will have taken one for the team, and will have taken it well.
 
I think you're right. Although it isn't particularly unusual for losing politicians to claim the race is still really close despite the polls, for whatever reason, Romney's campaign has been more successful than usual. Although I saw accusations of skewed polls from both sides in 2004, 2006, 2008, and 2010, it didn't receive the same level and scrutiny and media attention that it has this year. Although I personally feel the evidence that most of the polls are being intentionally skewed is lacking, there is no question it has become a popular view over the last month. And, though I think a Republican takeover in the Senate is unlikely this year, the extra turnout things like this might create could win them an extra seat or two which would at least add to the GOP's probable majority in 2014.
 
ya gotta come up with something to say when the polls are not in your favor....media bias works just as good as anything else.

as an aside, I can't stand the polls... I hate the methodology behind them( never, not once in all my days, have I ever been polled... just who the **** gets all these calls?), and I hate that they might sway voters ( lots of idiots will go along with whomever is in the lead, just on the idiot assumption that being more popular means he's the better guy)
they can also cause the candidates to change course ( slightly) here and there, based on nothing more than what a portion of a 1,000 people may or may not like.
 
ya gotta come up with something to say when the polls are not in your favor....media bias works just as good as anything else.

Well, it sure beats his previous plan of "it's because Obama voters are lazy, stupid, poor people!"
 
It's all a conspiracy to lull the Democrats into complacency so they don't turn out to vote.
 
It's all a conspiracy to lull the Democrats into complacency so they don't turn out to vote.

Damn you liberal media!!!

Wait.
 
Well, it sure beats his previous plan of "it's because Obama voters are lazy, stupid, poor people!"

either works for me...

but then again, I'm at the point where i'm already ignoring the 2 major candidates and their respective idiocy..
 
The polls do not matter yet. The race is far from over. If I were trying to come up with a conspiracy theory for Fx, it would be either they are luring dems into complacency to depress their turnout or they hate Romney because he is not an Evangelical right winger. I don't believe either is true, but those would be the theories that could work.
 
The polls do not matter yet. The race is far from over. If I were trying to come up with a conspiracy theory for Fx, it would be either they are luring dems into complacency to depress their turnout or they hate Romney because he is not an Evangelical right winger. I don't believe either is true, but those would be the theories that could work.

I don't buy either theory. When FOX News agrees with Gallup, and that agrees with Bloomburg, then I think that the polling is fairly accurate.
 
I didn't say I did either. I was playing devil's advocate to feed the conspiracy theory folks. I think they are conducting most of these polls during the day time which will hit a total different dynamic than if they did them in the evening. I am sure Obama is ahead, but not by some of the ridiculous numbers. Even Newshour on PBS has brought up that everybody sees these things are skewed.
 
As I suggested in another thread, this is all a part of the conservatives' 1984esque propoganda campaign to illegitimize every information source that isn't from the far right. I mean, what with the "lamestream", "drive-by" media, and that cabal of conspiratorial climatologists, and the Trilateral Commission ... who can you really believe? Obviously only "truth tellers" like Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck! It would be comical but for the fact that so many rubes have fallen for it.
 
The polls are not skewed. They were pretty dead on in 2010 with republicans took seats in the house. So now we are questioning the same polls? I don't think so, Romney is losing because simply put, mess up after mess up, the media even fox rape him. Notice how Obama doesn't get even a little heat in the last year, not even from fox? I'm just saying people have made up their minds and now just waiting election day. In less the debates favor Romney, this is over.
 
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