- Joined
- Feb 19, 2012
- Messages
- 29,957
- Reaction score
- 14,683
- Location
- Netherlands
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Moderate
The government is not god PAC has gone all out, out with the truth and in with the lies.
LIE Number 1
Says Obama is only president in history who has deliberately removed the words "endowed by their Creator" when referring to the Declaration of Independence.
First of all, it seems that not just Obama in a speech forgot the words "endowded by their creator" but the likes of Reagan, Dwight D. Eisenhower and Calvin Coolidge also forgot to mention them in a speech. Reagan did it in his speech to proclaim MLK day. In that speech he said
Proclamation 5431 -- Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, 1986
Proving that this PAC is packing on the lies. Also, Obama often does say "endowed by their creator" as can be seen on the politifact page about this PACk of lies.
PolitiFact | Ad says Obama leaves 'Creator' out of Declaration
They rate it FALSE
LIE Number 2
"Barack Hussein Obama will ... force local authorities to allow Occupy protesters to live in parks."
This pac says:
"Barack Hussein Obama will move America to force local authorities to allow Occupy protesters to live in parks,"
Politifact rules:
There’s a First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, but local governments are generally allowed to enforce time and place restrictions on those gatherings. An expert from the First Amendment Center told us he saw no evidence that the president was interested in changing the law and we found no evidence of that in our searches. To the contrary, we found evidence of the administration supporting current law. And a president can’t overturn a Supreme Court decision, anyway. Pants on Fire!
The entire motivation can be found here PolitiFact | Government is Not God PAC says Obama wants to allow Occupy protesters to live in parks
They rate it PANTS OF FIRE
LIE Number 3
"Barack Hussein Obama will ... force Christian schools to hire non-Christian teachers."
Politifact ruling
The ad claims that Obama will "force Christian schools to hire non-Christian teachers." But he has not sought to do that himself and the only evidence is a weak link to the solicitor general's argument in the Hosanna-Tabor case.
The case did address the proper balance between the government and religious institutions in personnel decisions, but even participants in the case say the government did not say what the ad claims. On balance, we rate the claim False.
The entire motivation/story can be read here http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/26/government-not-god-pac/newspaper-ad-says-barack-obama-will-force-christia/
They rate it FALSE
Lie number 4
"Barack Hussein Obama will .. force Christian organizations to pay for abortions."
Politifact rules that there is "some" truth, some truth because the "abortion" mentioned is the preventive care, as defined by HHS, which encompasses birth control, emergency contraceptives and sterilization -- health services that some people equate with abortion (but most do not).
These preventive care will be paid by the money paid by all the people and among them might be Christian organizations and their employees but even so, to call that abortion is a bit/very misleading.
Politifact writes:
You can read everything here PolitiFact | PAC ad says Obama will force Christian groups to pay for abortions
They rate it MOSTLY FALSE
Lie number 5
"Barack Hussein Obama will ... force courts to accept Islamic Sharia law in domestic disputes."
Politifact writes
you can find all the evidence/rest of the story here PolitiFact | PAC claims Obama would force Sharia law on courts
They rate it PANTS OF FIRE
Not to be outdone by the deceitful PAC Government is not god, the anti-tax group Americans for Tax reform thinks they have to add to the pile of lies in this political campaign by
Lie number 6
Obama sent $450 million to China to build a wind farm in Texas.
Politifact writes:
Our ruling
The Americans for Tax Reform flyer said that Obama sent $450 million to China to build a wind farm in Texas.
The wind farm was never built, the project sponsors never applied for government funds and never received any.
These facts have been well known for at least two years and were publicly reported several times. The source cited by Americans for Tax Reform noted that the project had not been funded.
The flyer spreads a discredited claim. We rate the statement Pants on Fire.
read the rest here PolitiFact | Anti-tax group says Obama sent $450 million to China to build Texas wind farm
They rate it PANTS OF FIRE
Why do political parties believe they need to blatantly lie (both parties do this) to make their point. There should be enough ammo to make your point by using actual factual truths and not total and utter lies like the above issues. Because of the 6 claims, 2 are lies, 3 are pants of fire lies and 1 was misleading but mostly false.
LIE Number 1
Says Obama is only president in history who has deliberately removed the words "endowed by their Creator" when referring to the Declaration of Independence.
First of all, it seems that not just Obama in a speech forgot the words "endowded by their creator" but the likes of Reagan, Dwight D. Eisenhower and Calvin Coolidge also forgot to mention them in a speech. Reagan did it in his speech to proclaim MLK day. In that speech he said
He made it possible for our nation to move closer to the ideals set forth in our Declaration of Independence: that all people are created equal and are endowed with inalienable rights that government has the duty to respect and protect.
Proclamation 5431 -- Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, 1986
Proving that this PAC is packing on the lies. Also, Obama often does say "endowed by their creator" as can be seen on the politifact page about this PACk of lies.
PolitiFact | Ad says Obama leaves 'Creator' out of Declaration
They rate it FALSE
LIE Number 2
"Barack Hussein Obama will ... force local authorities to allow Occupy protesters to live in parks."
This pac says:
"Barack Hussein Obama will move America to force local authorities to allow Occupy protesters to live in parks,"
Politifact rules:
There’s a First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, but local governments are generally allowed to enforce time and place restrictions on those gatherings. An expert from the First Amendment Center told us he saw no evidence that the president was interested in changing the law and we found no evidence of that in our searches. To the contrary, we found evidence of the administration supporting current law. And a president can’t overturn a Supreme Court decision, anyway. Pants on Fire!
The entire motivation can be found here PolitiFact | Government is Not God PAC says Obama wants to allow Occupy protesters to live in parks
They rate it PANTS OF FIRE
LIE Number 3
"Barack Hussein Obama will ... force Christian schools to hire non-Christian teachers."
Politifact ruling
The ad claims that Obama will "force Christian schools to hire non-Christian teachers." But he has not sought to do that himself and the only evidence is a weak link to the solicitor general's argument in the Hosanna-Tabor case.
The case did address the proper balance between the government and religious institutions in personnel decisions, but even participants in the case say the government did not say what the ad claims. On balance, we rate the claim False.
The entire motivation/story can be read here http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/26/government-not-god-pac/newspaper-ad-says-barack-obama-will-force-christia/
They rate it FALSE
Lie number 4
"Barack Hussein Obama will .. force Christian organizations to pay for abortions."
Politifact rules that there is "some" truth, some truth because the "abortion" mentioned is the preventive care, as defined by HHS, which encompasses birth control, emergency contraceptives and sterilization -- health services that some people equate with abortion (but most do not).
These preventive care will be paid by the money paid by all the people and among them might be Christian organizations and their employees but even so, to call that abortion is a bit/very misleading.
Politifact writes:
Our conclusion: There is a narrow window in this claim that has some truth.
The wording -- "Christian organizations will be forced to pay for abortions" -- is clearly an overreach. Christian organizations won’t be "forced" to hand over money for abortion procedures performed at clinics by doctors.
But because employers are now required to provide health insurance for employees under the Affordable Care Act (or otherwise face fines) and because that law dictates that preventive care must be provided at no cost to the insured person, there is some force being applied by the federal government. Preventive care, as defined by HHS, encompasses birth control, emergency contraceptives and sterilization -- health services that some people equate with abortion.
Overall, the statement creates a misleading impression. But that one element of truth leads us to rate it Mostly False.
You can read everything here PolitiFact | PAC ad says Obama will force Christian groups to pay for abortions
They rate it MOSTLY FALSE
Lie number 5
"Barack Hussein Obama will ... force courts to accept Islamic Sharia law in domestic disputes."
Politifact writes
Our ruling
The ad from the Government is not God PAC said Obama "will move America to force courts to accept Islamic Sharia law in domestic disputes."
The PAC offered no evidence -- and we couldn’t find any either.
The idea itself runs counter to the constitutional separation of powers and individual protections defined in the Bill of Rights.
We rate the statement Pants on Fire.
you can find all the evidence/rest of the story here PolitiFact | PAC claims Obama would force Sharia law on courts
They rate it PANTS OF FIRE
Not to be outdone by the deceitful PAC Government is not god, the anti-tax group Americans for Tax reform thinks they have to add to the pile of lies in this political campaign by
Lie number 6
Obama sent $450 million to China to build a wind farm in Texas.
Politifact writes:
Our ruling
The Americans for Tax Reform flyer said that Obama sent $450 million to China to build a wind farm in Texas.
The wind farm was never built, the project sponsors never applied for government funds and never received any.
These facts have been well known for at least two years and were publicly reported several times. The source cited by Americans for Tax Reform noted that the project had not been funded.
The flyer spreads a discredited claim. We rate the statement Pants on Fire.
read the rest here PolitiFact | Anti-tax group says Obama sent $450 million to China to build Texas wind farm
They rate it PANTS OF FIRE
Why do political parties believe they need to blatantly lie (both parties do this) to make their point. There should be enough ammo to make your point by using actual factual truths and not total and utter lies like the above issues. Because of the 6 claims, 2 are lies, 3 are pants of fire lies and 1 was misleading but mostly false.