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Who would you really vote for?

So who would you REALLY vote for? And post why.


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That would be a wasted vote considering Johnson has absolutely no chance to win.

Obama is a reckless clown who needs to be fired. I don't believe this is the correct election to be casting protest ballots.

Casting a ballot of Johnson is the same as casting a ballot for Obama...

I support Johnson's politics 100% but I know he has (sadly) no chance of winning this election. I'm using my vote to get that ignorant clown Obama out of office...

As a libertarian I believe our goal should be to remove Obama rather than elect Romney - that is just the way I see it and I will do just that with my vote.

'Ya know, I hear all the time that, because I am voting for Gary Johnson this year, and not Mitt Romney, it is the same as a vote for Barack Obama. So I'll be frank. I am going to vote for Gary Johnson, and if Obama ends up winning, I don't give a damn. I don't whore out my vote. If the GOP wants my vote, they are going to have to earn it. I will vote Republican again when the fruitcakes have left the party, and sane people have taken it back. End. Of. Discussion. :)
 
That would be a wasted vote considering Johnson has absolutely no chance to win.

I live in Wyoming. My vote doesn't count anyway.

Obama is a reckless clown who needs to be fired. I don't believe this is the correct election to be casting protest ballots.

And Governor Romney is better how? The only issues that I trust the GOP on, and the only reasons that I ever vote for them, Romney is soft on-- and after years of being a moderate, he's finally growing a boner for the issues on which the GOP is inexcusably and unforgivably wrong.

This is absolutely the election to be casting protest ballots because this is an election where neither major party gave us a candidate worth two tugs of a dead dog's ****. If we don't protest now, we're telling both parties that we're okay with them feeding us this garbage.

Casting a ballot of Johnson is the same as casting a ballot for Obama...

Casting a ballot for Obama is the same as casting a ballot for Romney. I live in Wyoming.
 
I'll be voting for Romney. I had turned my dispositions away from the Democratic Party as a national platform at the same time that I thought Huntsman, who is perhaps more my style, unfortunately had little traction.

Unfortunately he ran one of the worst national campaigns in terms of strategy that I've seen since I started following politics
 
Unfortunately he ran one of the worst national campaigns in terms of strategy that I've seen since I started following politics

You mean trying to run a moderate's campaign that would only seem to affect people more liberal than myself (who coincidentally wouldn't be looking at the GOP to begin with)? Absolutely. In terms of energy? Absolutely. It was too demur.
 
I live in Wyoming. My vote doesn't count anyway.




Casting a ballot for Obama is the same as casting a ballot for Romney. I live in Wyoming.
Your vote has much more influence than others people who live in more populated states.
 
Your vote has much more influence than others people who live in more populated states.

Romney will win Wyoming. Period, end of conversation. Thus, the portion of the EC vote that my vote is personally responsible for will go for Romney regardless of whom I vote for. I could vote for Romney, and my vote would go for Romney. I can vote for Johnson, and my vote will go for Romney. I could vote for Jill Stein, and my vote would go for Romney. Hell, I could vote for Barack Obama himself, and my vote will still go for Romney.

Only reason I vote at all is to shut the jackasses up who say you don't have the right to complain if you didn't vote. As if it made any difference at all when the elections are all rigged.
 
Unfortunately he ran one of the worst national campaigns in terms of strategy that I've seen since I started following politics

I agree with this completely. When he first announced I didn't think he'd win, but I thought he could at least build up some support for 2016 or 2020, but I think his 2012 campaign probably torpedoed his chances at any future national election.
 
This entire post is ridiculous. It's entirely misconceived, fallacy riddled concept is built upon a foundation of pure and utter ignorance of the realities of the situation. Let me explain.

That would be a wasted vote considering Johnson has absolutely no chance to win.

This is a statement made from a basis of complete assumption, because it's a statement being made regarding the "wasted" notion of the vote without any understanding or knowledge of what Kori views as important about his vote.

If the reason you are voting is only due to your desire to see the person you vote for win...then yes, voting for Johnson is almost assuredly a "wasted" vote.

If the reason you are voting is because you wish to vote based on your principles, and Gary Johnson is closest to those, then it is NOT a wasted vote because it's inline with what you desire from your vote.

If the reason you are voting is because you wish to vote for a person you believe will be a benefit to this country, and you feel Johnson will be while feeling that Romney and Obama wouldn't be, then again it is NOT a wasted vote because it's inline with what you desire from your vote.

If the reason you are voting is as a means of protest, to demonstrate your displeasure with the Republican nominee by showing them a tangable negative effect...your defecting to a 3rd party...due to the parties selection, then again it is not a wasted vote.

If the reason you are voting is in hopes of forging the potential for the LONG TERM health of this country, by attempting to force the Republican party to focus on fiscally conservative individuals in word AND deed through protest voting currently, at the expense of SHORT TERM health...then again, your vote is not wasted.

Operating on a basis of ignorance concerning what Kori's purpose is with his vote makes one incapable of actually stating whether or not his vote is a "waste".

Obama is a reckless clown who needs to be fired. I don't believe this is the correct election to be casting protest ballots.

Good for you.

You do not make decisions for everyone. Your personal feelings are not facts. Because YOU disagree does not make something someone ELSE chooses to do "wasted".

Casting a ballot of Johnson is the same as casting a ballot for Obama...

Again, this is born from a complete lack of understanding of reality, in this case the voting process.

Casting a vote for Obama does a few things.

For one, it is a physical representation of you stating "I support Barack Obama being President of the United States". For two, it provides an actual vote that adds to the total numbers provided for Obama.

Casting a vote for Johnson is a physical representation of you stating "I support Gary Johnson being President of the United States". It also provides an actual vote that addes to the total numbers provided for Gary Johnson.

"I support Barack Obama being POTUS" is not "The same" as stating "I support Gary Johnson being POTUS"

Adding 1 to the total votes for Barack Obama is not "The same" as adding 1 to the total votes for Gary Johnson.

Not only are you earlier attempting to provide your opinions as if they're some unquestionable fact, but you are now trying to present flat out falsehoods as actual fact.

I support Johnson's politics 100% but I know he has (sadly) no chance of winning this election. I'm using my vote to get that ignorant clown Obama out of office...

So it appears YOUR view of your vote is not one based on principle, but on practicallity. That you care not for whether or not you can actually support, trust, or back the person you're voting for as president, but rather whoever has the best chance of beating the person you like the least. You care not for putting your voice behind someone who you actually principly support, but rather who is practically able to beat the person you least support.

There's nothing wrong with that, but there's nothing inherently "better" or less "wasted" about your vote than anyone elses.

As a libertarian I believe our goal should be to remove Obama rather than elect Romney - that is just the way I see it and I will do just that with my vote.

And you're free to do that. That's the glorious thing about an individuals vote....it's YOUR vote. You're able to cast it based on what's most important to YOU. You're able to use your singularly important right as a citizen to stake your claim on the direction this government should go. You should apply whatever criteria's are most important to you to determine how you cast that vote.

And so should everyone else.

The only WASTED vote would be someone casting a vote not based on what's important to them, not based on what they personally feel is the right direction, but rather because they are being bullied, shamed, or forced to vote in that direction.
 
You mean trying to run a moderate's campaign that would only seem to affect people more liberal than myself (who coincidentally wouldn't be looking at the GOP to begin with)? Absolutely. In terms of energy? Absolutely. It was too demur.

This could be an entire thread on it's own, and I know I've gone over it a ton of times but in general...

Operating within a party PRIMARY by immediete running away from the base rather than towards the base. Focusing early on in trying to seperate himself from the rest based on his stances that were contrary to the party base, rather than seperating himself from the rest based on his superior success in matters that are in line with the base. Proclaiming a desire to run a "positive" campaign in terms of attacking the other side, but then letting flippant attacks of your own side come out. Providing absolutely no seeming fight during an election cycle where the base is primed for a fight. Doing NOTHING to combat the preconcieved negatives concerning your candidacy in terms of a primary, and instead at times actually embracing it.

There were SOOOO many strategical mistakes and simple ways he could've gone in a different direction that I think would've easily given him a legitimate shot to win in a time where everyone was begging for someone other than Romney...but his campaign was just the height of incompetence.
 
Romney will win Wyoming. Period, end of conversation.
You can choose to avoid the math and your vote effect upon your electoral college, the point still stands, since you live in a low population state, your vote has a lot of influence over the states electoral count.
 
Being a bleeding heart liberal I would vote for "other". That other would be Bernie Sanders or Dennis Kucinich.
 
Mitch Daniels.
 
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