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Bumps In The Road

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obama on 60 minutes sunday:

CBS's Steve Kroft asked, “Have the events that took place in the Middle East, the recent events in the Middle East given you any pause about your support for the governments that have come to power following the Arab Spring?”

President Obama answered, “Well, I'd said even at the time that this is going to be a rocky path. The question presumes that somehow we could have stopped this wave of change. I think it was absolutely the right thing for us to do to align ourselves with democracy, universal rights-- a notion that-- people have- to be able to-- participate-- in-- their own governance. But I was pretty certain and continue to be pretty certain that there are going to be bumps in the road because-- you know, in a lot of these places-- the one organizing principle-- has been Islam. The one part of society that hasn't been controlled completely by the government. There are strains of extremism, and anti-Americanism, and anti-Western sentiment. And you know can be tapped into by demagogues. There will probably be some times where we bump up against some of these countries and have strong disagreements, but I do think that over the long term, we are more likely to get a Middle East and North Africa that is more peaceful, more prosperous and more aligned with our interests.”
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Bumps in the Road - President Obama - Fox Nation

bumps in the road?

the murder of an american ambassador, the deaths of 4 americans, protests and riots in half a hundred cities, all the way from marrakesh to bangladesh and beyond, tens of thousands burning us flags, chanting death to america, abusing effigies, screaming threats, the flag of al qaeda flying over 4 us embassies...

just a speedbump, a traffic cone

romney in pueblo, colorado, pounced:

"Bumps in the road?" Romney asked. "We had an ambassador assassinated. We had a Muslim Brotherhood member elected to the presidency of Egypt. Twenty thousand people have been killed in Syria. We have tumult in Pakistan and of course Iran is that much closer to having the capacity to build a nuclear weapon."
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Romney hammers Obama on ‘bumps in the road’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

romney could have added: we have greens killing blues with frightening frequency in afghanistan, completely undermining the presidential apologist's entire exit strategy

we have bibi netanyahu, on the brink of launching armageddon, held at arm's length while president primetime goes on the view

we have china and russia in open defiance of sanctions, dealing with holocaust deniers in both oil and arms

carney, pressed, clawed back

Carney Doubles Down On "Bump In The Road" Comment: Criticism Is "Desperate And Offensive" | RealClearPolitics

have you heard about the vicious catfight between hillary's state dept and cnn over ambassador stevens' diary?

hillary denied anderson cooper's reporting that the ambassador had expressed to his friends his fears for his life

Exclusive: Amb. Chris Stevens worried about al Qaeda hit list – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN

Clinton: No sign that Stevens believed he was on an al Qaeda hit list - CNN

then cnn revealed it had been sitting on the ambassador's diary for 11 days, one of their reporters picked it up off the floor of the bombed out consulate in benghazi 4 days after the murderous assault

CNN finds journal belonging to late U.S. ambassador - CNN.com

that was too much for mrs clinton

State Dept: CNN's Use Of Christopher Stevens' Journal Is 'Disgusting'

today, the very same rolling stone reporter who ended the career of obama's first supreme isaf commander, stanley mcchrystal, in 2010, kept pestering philippe reines, hillary's "longtime aide and personal spokesman"

how did cnn come across the diary on a floor 4 days later, why didn't you guys get it?

things got testy, the email chain shows, between both professional leftists until the state dept senior spokesman called the rolling stone reporter this morning an unmitigated a****** and told him to f*** off

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...partment-aide-tells-reporter-to-****-off.html

obama's comprehensively unprofessional foreign policy is a belly flop and he and his sadsack secretary of state don't like being called on it

but obama wasn't done on 60 minutes last nite, he was just getting started

Asked whether he feels pressured byIsraeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to take action on Iran, Obama said that he agrees with Israel's insistence that Iran not be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon.

But, he continued, "when it comes to our national security decisions — any pressure that I feel is simply to do what's right for the American people. And I am going to block out — any noise that's out there."

"Now I feel an obligation, not pressure but obligation, to make sure that we're in close consultation with the Israelis — on these issues," he added. "Because it affects them deeply. They're one of our closest allies in the region."
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Obama Dismisses Israel Criticism As 'Noise' - Business Insider

one of our closest allies in the region?

who are the others?

certainly not egypt

BBC News - Obama: Egypt is not US ally, nor an enemy

who's he talking about, here?

saudi arabia? iraq? the palestinian authority?

this guy has absolutely no clue what he's doing in the middle east, his every instinct is wrong, backwards and upside down

which is why his every move his cattywampus

his thoughts and his words all twisted

he didn't protect the consulate, he said he did

he was warned, he said he wasn't

the ambassador knew, they say he didn't

the seals weren't his guards, they say they were

it wasn't the video, it was premeditated, it was terrorist, it was AQ affiliated

they brought rpg's, we knew the very day

they knew where the safe houses were---in advance

someone left the diary on the floor

the man who planned it all, qumu, was released from gitmo---obama lets go 1/3

he wants them to like him, they don't respect him

it is what it is, a disaster

let's let the hardest working man in washington have the last word

Carney cleans up Obama gaffe: Israel is our closest ally in the Middle East | WashingtonExaminer.com
 
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nyt today, "major blow to cia:"

The attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans has dealt the Central Intelligence Agency a major setback in its intelligence-gathering efforts at a time of increasing instability in the North African nation.

Among the more than two dozen American personnel evacuated from the city after the assault on the American mission and a nearby annex were about a dozen C.I.A. operatives and contractors, who played a crucial role in conducting surveillance and collecting information on an array of armed militant groups in and around the city.

“It’s a catastrophic intelligence loss,” said one American official who has served in Libya and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the F.B.I. is still investigating the attack. “We got our eyes poked out.”

The C.I.A.’s surveillance targets in Benghazi and eastern Libya include Ansar al-Sharia, a militia that some have blamed for the attack, as well as suspected members of Al Qaeda’s affiliate in North Africa, known as Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

American intelligence operatives also assisted State Department contractors and Libyan officials in tracking shoulder-fired missiles taken from the former arsenals of the former Libyan Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s forces; they aided in efforts to secure Libya’s chemical weapons stockpiles; and they helped train Libya’s new intelligence service, officials said.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/world/africa/attack-in-libya-was-major-blow-to-cia-efforts.html

state dept seniors, the gray lady reports, "acknowledged the intelligence setback, but insisted that information was still being collected using a variety" of informants, cell phones and satellites

president pollyanna's policy is all ostrich---head buried in denial
 
The question presumes that somehow we could have stopped this wave of change.
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To even try in Egypt would have involved huge investment in support of a string of dictatorships. That is no shining city on the hill. Eventually, sooner rather than later IMO, the walls would be irreparably tarnished with shame, the lights out because we couldn’t afford to make the payment on the power bill, and ourselves not even noticing it because we’d be too busy burying our dead.

EDIT: Libya? That’s a tougher one, I think. But we have earned allies where we had none before. They have their demons in the society to fight, and it is more a risk. But they’ve got to get it out of their system eventually, they weren’t going to get their under Ghaddafi.
 
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Lets hope that the Obama Presidency is soon just a ...
 
And the right gets more and more desperate. As of Monday all polls show Romney behind.. even the right leaning ones. Engage over-panic mode! :sinking:
 
pbrauer said:
Did President Obama say the death of the ambassador and the three others was a "bump in the road," Grim? Remember your adage "truth before politics."
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Did I say that he had?
 
Romney is in for a pound on the Middle East stuff. If I were him, I'd start running high rotation ads of Obama soundbites saying sunny things about the ME with ton of footage of protestors and flag burnings and crap like that. I think it is totally unfair to try to pin all of this on Obama, but that is what I'd do now, right now, if I were him.
 
Fisher said:
Romney is in for a pound on the Middle East stuff. If I were him, I'd start running high rotation ads of Obama soundbites saying sunny things about the ME with ton of footage of protestors and flag burnings and crap like that. I think it is totally unfair to try to pin all of this on Obama, but that is what I'd do now, right now, if I were him.
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Romney is like a kitten chasing a ball of string. What an incredibly inept campaign. The only thing Romney should be talking about is the economy. It's the economy, stupid, comes to mind. The WH is only too happy to have him delve into foreign policy.
 
The only bump in the road for this election is that Romney is running. he is a flat tire looking for air.
 
AdamT said:
Romney is like a kitten chasing a ball of string. What an incredibly inept campaign. The only thing Romney should be talking about is the economy. It's the economy, stupid, comes to mind. The WH is only too happy to have him delve into foreign policy.
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It is an inept campaign, but the economy is too broad and he has yet to find his soundbite on it. I'd do the foreign stuff, follow up with ads about gas prices so people associate the two; then lead them into the hidden tax Obama puts on their income in the way of gas prices and people not being able to afford things while household income is dropping (not making any assertion--just laying out how I would do it). Romney just needs to wrap the stuff up in simple packages with a common bow if he is going to swing the swingers in the swingiest places. He comes across with the creepy "Come here kids and get in my van and I'll give you some candy" quality when he talks big picture economics.
 
Obama needs to start acting presidential and shut down the protests in the middle eastern countries.
 
wolfman24 said:
The only bump in the road for this election is that Romney is running. he is a flat tire looking for air.
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When he wins the election in November, that's really going to suck for you then.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Obama needs to start acting presidential and shut down the protests in the middle eastern countries.
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How do you suggest Obama shut down protests in the ME? I can't wait to hear your answer.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Obama needs to start acting presidential and shut down the protests in the middle eastern countries.
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And just exactly is he going to do that? He is not an official in thier governments and we dont "own them"
 
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