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Obama's Team Responds to "2016 Obama's America"

You have "shown" nothing. You have an opinion that it is and it is nothing more than your opinion. Everybody has them.

You can keep defending Obama all you want. I hope it makes you happy.



I have others who have seen the film and not being an Obama basher, find it nothing more than typical republican bashing...I've proven the bashing continues. How do you stretch my showing proof the film is a fantasy and based on the film producers book and also that videos are used by right wing pundit to lie about Obama as supporting Obama? Are you that insecure that the film which is obviously biased defines who you are?
 
I don't think liberals can understand a man like Romney.

Family comes first above all else and he helps other people as well.
Bull****. My wife and I 'loaned' a highschool friend of hers about $7,000 total to help her out. She had become a single mom of a young child after the child's father decided to take up using her as a punching bag. The father went out of his way to be a deadbeat. Her extended family was borderline dysfunctional and were counter-productive to be around. She was on SS, living in an area with poor economic prospects. As a single parent SS really isn't capable of being a 'hand up', it is too small for that. So we loaned money for her to move across country (with a couple of suitcases), get an apartment, stocked the pantry and sundry household items, stopgap for the weeks till she got a first paycheque, and extra money to close the gap between living and daycare costs and that initial wage for some months till she increased her income to cover the gap.

That was several years ago. At a time when $7,000 was a hellva lot of money to us. Neither my wife or I were born on third with the chance to delude oursides that we'd got there hitting a triple. I didn't get to declare that deduction on my tax returns as 'charity'.

So you can take your presumptions about what I can't understand and what comes first above all else to me and shove that straight up your ass.
 
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What envy? Oh, the old propaganda lines of the right wingers that democrats are envious of the wealth on the right. That's as trite as Obama 2016 being a documentary.

What is explains is that his father's wealth allowed Romney to go to elite schools. His father's political and CEO background put interest in him. Romney did not have work harder than anyone to pay the bills. Did Romney take advantage of the fact his dad was rich and study hard? He claims so. But he got where he was by his daddy's wealth, and background, opening doors for him.

Again so what? Romney put in the work. He didn't just sit around spending his fathers money. He learned what he needed to to make his way inthe world. Why is it important how he did that?

Is Obamas education any more valid that Romneys because, well we don't really know how it was paid for, it wasn't paid for by his mother? The fact is that Obamas education was paid for and it doesn't matter who did it, the result is the same.
 
Bull****. My wife and I 'loaned' a highschool friend of hers about $7,000 total to help her out. She had become a single mom after the child's father decided to take up using her as a punching bag. Her extended family was borderline dysfunctional and were counter-productive to be around. She was on SS, living in an area with poor economic prospects. As a single parent SS really isn't capable of being a 'hand up', it is too small for that. So we loaned money for her to move across country (with a couple of suitcases), get an apartment, stopgap for the weeks till she got a first paycheque, and extra money to close the gap between living and daycare costs and that initial wage.

That was several years ago. At a time when $7,000 was a hellva lot of money to us (neither my wife or I were born on third, with the chance to delude oursides that we'd got there hitting a triple. I didn't get to declare that deduction on my tax returns.

So you can take your presumptions about what I can't understand and what comes first above all else to me and shove that straight up your ass.

Nice tantrum. I am not sure why you felt like you had to have it but nice tantrum.
 
I have others who have seen the film and not being an Obama basher, find it nothing more than typical republican bashing...I've proven the bashing continues. How do you stretch my showing proof the film is a fantasy and based on the film producers book and also that videos are used by right wing pundit to lie about Obama as supporting Obama? Are you that insecure that the film which is obviously biased defines who you are?

I don't care about the film at all.

You keep making assumptions about something you haven't seen and talking like you know what you are talking about. The fact is that you don't.
 
Again so what? Romney put in the work. He didn't just sit around spending his fathers money. He learned what he needed to to make his way inthe world. Why is it important how he did that?

Is Obamas education any more valid that Romneys because, well we don't really know how it was paid for, it wasn't paid for by his mother? The fact is that Obamas education was paid for and it doesn't matter who did it, the result is the same.

Obama's family background makes him far more in touch with 99% of Americans than Romney. HE at least understands that the working poor pay federal and state and local income taxes but make TOO little on the chart of IRS taxes to pay and additional income tax at the end of the year. And those that DO pay who make just up from the working poor pay MORE than Romney's "I think I'll give to charity and lower my tax rates AFTER the election" 14%.

Wanna see the Romney 47% quote again?

How can you be a president and NOT understand the plight of 99% of Americans? You can't. Bush, Reagan and Bush proved that.
 
I don't care about the film at all.

You keep making assumptions about something you haven't seen and talking like you know what you are talking about. The fact is that you don't.



I can make assumptions about it because it's been reviewed by UNBIASED people. You guys claimed it was based on a book written by Obama...it was not..then you say Obama is quoted in the movie from videos...I have shown you the history of republican pundits and videos...I don't need to see the film

Which Michael Moore movies did you not like and why?
 
I can make assumptions about it because it's been reviewed by UNBIASED people. You guys claimed it was based on a book written by Obama...it was not..then you say Obama is quoted in the movie from videos...I have shown you the history of republican pundits and videos...I don't need to see the film

Which Michael Moore movies did you not like and why?

Obamas own words would be his reading, audio book, of his own book. They are his words and not cut and spliced to make him say something he did not say. I am sure that doesn't make any difference to you though.
 
Obama's family background makes him far more in touch with 99% of Americans than Romney. HE at least understands that the working poor pay federal and state and local income taxes but make TOO little on the chart of IRS taxes to pay and additional income tax at the end of the year. And those that DO pay who make just up from the working poor pay MORE than Romney's "I think I'll give to charity and lower my tax rates AFTER the election" 14%.

Wanna see the Romney 47% quote again?

How can you be a president and NOT understand the plight of 99% of Americans? You can't. Bush, Reagan and Bush proved that.

Why does Obama's background make him more in touch? How many people do you know who went to Columbia and Yale? Who worked for community organizing groups? Who are attorneys apparently specializing in civil rights? How many do you know who buy $1 million houses in Chicago? Yeah, he's just an ordinary guy . . .

You don't get to be President of the United States by being an "ordinary guy."
 
Obamas own words would be his reading, audio book, of his own book. They are his words and not cut and spliced to make him say something he did not say. I am sure that doesn't make any difference to you though.

Yeah, go with that. You've provided nothing to me that's been reviewed by critics that tells me there is anything more than political propaganda in this movie staged to come out in an election year and BASED on the book by the Producer.

Correction: 2016: Obama's America-Fact Check story - SFGate

"2016: Obama's America," a new conservative film exploring the roots of President Barack Obama's political views, took in $6.2 million to make it one of the highest-grossing movies of last weekend. The film, written and narrated by conservative scholar Dinesh D'Souza, argues that Obama was heavily influenced by what D'Souza calls the "anti-colonial" beliefs of his father, Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan academic who was largely absent from the president's life.

To document that claim, D'Souza travels to Kenya to interview members of Obama's extended family as well as to Hawaii and Indonesia, where Obama grew up. He also cites several actions and policy positions Obama has taken to support the thesis that Obama is ideologically rooted in the Third World and harbors contempt for the country that elected him its first black president.

The assertion that Obama's presidency is an expression of his father's political beliefs, which D'Souza first made in 2010 in his book "The Roots of Obama's Rage," is almost entirely subjective and a logical stretch at best.

It's true that Obama's father lived most of his life in Kenya, an African nation once colonized by the British, and that Obama's reverence for his absent father frames his best-selling memoir. D'Souza even sees clues in the book's title: "Notice it says 'Dreams From My Father,' not 'of' my father," D'Souza says.

But it's difficult to see how Obama's political leanings could have been so directly shaped by his father, as D'Souza claims. The elder Obama left his wife and young son, the future president, when Obama was 2 and visited his son only once, when Obama was 10. But D'Souza portrays that loss as an event that reinforced rather than weakened the president's ties to his father, who died in an automobile accident when Obama was in college.

D'Souza interviews Paul Vitz, a New York University psychologist who has studied the impact of absent fathers on children. In Obama's case, Vitz says, the abandonment meant "he has the tension between the Americanism and his Africanism. He himself is an intersection of major political forces in his own psychology."

From there, the evidence D'Souza uses to support his assertion starts to grow thin.

D'Souza says Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, shared his father's left-leaning views. After living in Indonesia for several years, D'Souza said, Dunham sent the younger Obama to live with his grandparents in Hawaii so he would not be influenced by her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian who worked for American oil companies and fought communists as a member of the Indonesian army.

"Ann separates Barry from Lolo's growing pro-Western influence," D'Souza says in the film. Obama has said his mother had sent him back to Hawaii so he would be educated in the United States.

In Hawaii, D'Souza asserts with no evidence that Obama sympathized with native Hawaiians who felt they had been marginalized by the American government when Hawaii was becoming a state. D'Souza also asserts — again with no evidence — that Obama had been coached to hold those views at Punahou, the prestigious prep school he attended.

Read more: Correction: 2016: Obama's America-Fact Check story - SFGate


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Tell me, when did Obama speak his own words?
 
Why does Obama's background make him more in touch? How many people do you know who went to Columbia and Yale? Who worked for community organizing groups? Who are attorneys apparently specializing in civil rights? How many do you know who buy $1 million houses in Chicago? Yeah, he's just an ordinary guy . . .

You don't get to be President of the United States by being an "ordinary guy."

How many people do you know were raised by a single parent, abandoned by a father, then raised by grandparents of a different race? How many from a poor background MAKE it into Harvard? Affirmative Action helped, no doubt, because discrimination against blacks, even those bi-racial who looked black, were not allowed in and OBAMA'S father did not send him money.

It makes it more striking what Obama did with his life, than what Romney did. And Obama saw his mother struggle...and he was not rich.
 
Nice tantrum. I am not sure why you felt like you had to have it but nice tantrum.
Simply a forceful statement in an attempt to get the cognitive correction past your mental haze.

That you hadn't noticed yet that actual charity isn't the issue.
 
How many people do you know were raised by a single parent, abandoned by a father, then raised by grandparents of a different race? How many from a poor background MAKE it into Harvard? Affirmative Action helped, no doubt, because discrimination against blacks, even those bi-racial who looked black, were not allowed in and OBAMA'S father did not send him money.

It makes it more striking what Obama did with his life, than what Romney did. And Obama saw his mother struggle...and he was not rich.

Yes, you're obviously correct. Obama is a much better man.
 
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