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How will Romney's anti-poor campaign play in the heavily-subsidized red states?

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I'm curious to know how those lower-class Republican values voters will react to this.

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What "anti-poor" campaign?
 
What "anti-poor" campaign?

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

There are a lot of working-class, rural voters out there who are very strongly socially conservative and yet make a living in the main through government subsidy. Many of these voters live in states that the Republicans have historically dominated.

I don't think they'll take kindly to the implication they need a tax raise.
 
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Romney is correct in saying that there are way too many people out there dependent on government, but I don't like (and am in fact sort of offended, yes, though it's probably because I'm in a bitchy mood in general) where he says they all vote Democratic. In practice, although the urban poor really do vote Democratic, rural poor white voters, especially in the South, are a part of his base, and it seems to me to be in incredibly bad taste -- and in fact offensive -- to talk about how awful they are when many will vote for him.
 
You've got a point.

I know I do. It'll inevitably be countered with "but it's all those blacks in the South!"

To which I'll inevitably respond: "In West Virginia?"
 
What "anti-poor" campaign?

Some people are obvious to the campaign situation.

More educated people tend to be more liberal that's a fact I can look it up if you guys insist otherwise too lazy.
 
Some people are obvious to the campaign situation.

Hell, I'm nominally sympathetic to the idea that there are too many people on the welfare rolls.

And yet it's patently obvious that Romney is nothing but a callous prick.
 
Some people are obvious to the campaign situation.

More educated people tend to be more liberal that's a fact I can look it up if you guys insist otherwise too lazy.

Are you suggesting that educated people are smarter than uneducated people? Are you claiming to be one of the educated Liberals? I hope not, with that post.
 
Hell, I'm nominally sympathetic to the idea that there are too many people on the welfare rolls.

And yet it's patently obvious that Romney is nothing but a callous prick.

How much sympathy did Obama and his minions have for all the working class and poor people that were harmed by the drilling ban?

When people complained that the drilling ban would kill their jobs, Bill Maher--one of the leaders of the Democrat Party--said, "**** your jobs".
 
How much sympathy did Obama and his minions have for all the working class and poor people that were harmed by the drilling ban?

I realize you want to evade the subject of the thread, so let me head you off at the pass: I support Gary Johnson. I will be voting for Gary Johnson in November. I regard Governor Johnson as the best man for the job. I do not care about how Obama was perceived. Obama isn't in competition with Johnson for the libertarian vote.

Now, then: how will those southern whites who rely on Federal subsidy feel about this?
 
I'm curious to know how those lower-class Republican values voters will react to this.

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Even if it weren't a completely facetious and snarky thread, making a juvenile point, that point defeats itself.

You even quoted what he said:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

He wasn't referring to Republican voters, quite specifically.
 
He wasn't referring to Republican voters, quite specifically.

Then what distinguishes those Southern white Republicans on entitlements from the Democrats on entitlements?
Will the Republicans who rely on those entitlements appreciate Romney's sentiment?
 
I'm curious to know how those lower-class Republican values voters will react to this.

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Lower class Republicans will vote for Romney... or, if they are like most lower class folks, they won't vote at all.

say, can you tell me what the federal spending in all those states in your chart is comprised of?... that'd be great if you could.
( to be fair, you'll be the first person ever to do so in the 10 years i've been asking.. so i don't really expect you to substantiate them)
 
say, can you tell me what the federal spending in all those states in your chart is comprised of?... that'd be great if you could.
( to be fair, you'll be the first person ever to do so in the 10 years i've been asking.. so i don't really expect you to substantiate them)

It breaks down to about 35% military, 20% highways and public works, and 55% Federal entitlements.
 
Then what distinguishes those Southern white Republicans on entitlements from the Democrats on entitlements?
Will the Republicans who rely on those entitlements appreciate Romney's sentiment?

the Republicans won't care about his statement... it is clear he is insulting lower class Obama voters.

it's dishonest rhetoric, but still..
 
Even if it weren't a completely facetious and snarky thread, making a juvenile point, that point defeats itself.

You even quoted what he said:



He wasn't referring to Republican voters, quite specifically.

You are right, but he was mainly referring to low-income voters, which in both parties are many (poor in the city=dem, poor in a town=rep), he characterized them as teat-suckers.
 
Then what distinguishes those Southern white Republicans on entitlements from the Democrats on entitlements?

In terms of what Romney said, the fact that he wasn't referring to them. Strangely enough, I already said that.

Will the Republicans who rely on those entitlements appreciate Romney's sentiment?

It almost certainly will not matter to them, much as you'd like it to.

Look, they try to slam this "class warfare" bull**** down Republican candidates' throats all the time, yet Republicans still vote for them. Imagine that! This is no different.
 
You are right, but he was mainly referring to low-income voters, which in both parties are many (poor in the city=dem, poor in a town=rep), he characterized them as teat-suckers.

... he tied in all those evil things under one heading...."things obama voters do"
 
You are right, but he was mainly referring to low-income voters, which in both parties are many (poor in the city=dem, poor in a town=rep), he characterized them as teat-suckers.

Not by referring to Obama's base, he didn't.
 
In terms of what Romney said, the fact that he wasn't referring to them. Strangely enough, I already said that.

Strange.

So you have two individuals. One's a Republican, one's a Democrat. Both are lower-class. Both rely on Federal entitlement spending. But only the Democrat believes that he is "entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it"?

It almost certainly will not matter to them, much as you'd like it to.

If it makes them even look at third-party alternatives, then I am all for it.

Look, they try to slam this "class warfare" bull**** down Republican candidates' throats all the time, yet Republicans still vote for them. Imagine that! This is no different.

What happens when it's the Republican engaging in class warfare?
 
Well if those people actually voted on policy rather than party lets just say a landslide would be an understatement.

just noticed this is based on 2005 tax- data & the 2004 Election_ Wonder how Much that has changed in the last ( 7 ) or ( 8 ) years- now that there are millions more Un-_Employed' ...........Ya'll........... reckon there might be some change or No ?
 
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