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Conservative Prime Minister Cameron: "All of England" united against Mitt Romney

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Cameron 'claimed Britain is united against Mitt Romney' - Telegraph

Harvey Weinstein, an Oscar-winning producer, said he had personally heard Mr Cameron make the disparaging remarks to a group of people.

The revelation will risk inflaming tensions between Mr Cameron and Mr Romney, which could make trans-Atlantic relations difficult if the Republican wins the race.

Mr Weinstein told the BBC: “I witnessed Prime Minister saying to a group of people, myself included, that Mitt Romney had that unique distinction of uniting all of England against him with his various remarks. On behalf of my love of England, I have to support the President [Barack Obama] who is anything but making faux-pas.”

Mr Romney did not win many fans during his visit to Britain when he publicly cast doubt on whether Britain was prepared for the Olympics.

If true, I'd be deeply concerned about the status of our alliance with Great Britain, the oldest and most productive in America's history.
 
British conservatives are now against romney. Romney has no base. Conservatives and liberals hate him.
 
British conservatives are now against romney. Romney has no base. Conservatives and liberals hate him.

I don't think it really matters an iota to Romney's domestic supporters, except maybe that tiny fraction of authentic, genuinely ideological neo-conservatives who take their foreign policy seriously.

As to the rest? It'll be a "hurr" here and a "durr" there, and a "who needs those tea-drinking ******s?" everywhere.
 
I don't think it really matters an iota to Romney's domestic supporters, except maybe that tiny fraction of authentic, genuinely ideological neo-conservatives who take their foreign policy seriously.

As to the rest? It'll be a "hurr" here and a "durr" there, and a "who needs those tea-drinking ******s?" everywhere.

they will call Cameron a European socialist.
 
Then again... english politicians, and especially at the top, are the wussies and they are "great compromisers". I bet my marbles that if Romney wins, Cameron will quickly eat his words and suck up to Romney. Cheering for the great victory of democracy in the most democratic country.
 
Then again... english politicians, and especially at the top, are the wussies and they are "great compromisers". I bet my marbles that if Romney wins, Cameron will quickly eat his words and suck up to Romney. Cheering for the great victory of democracy in the most democratic country.

I sincerely doubt it. What you take as being a "wussy" is actually noblesse oblige; Cameron in particular is generally a hard man to impress if you've made a bad first impression on him.

Ah, if only Cameron were on the ballot in America this year....
 
I'll believe it when Mr. Cameron actually comes out and says it. Other than that it's a he said article not worthy of much to put in to.
 
I sincerely doubt it. What you take as being a "wussy" is actually noblesse oblige; Cameron in particular is generally a hard man to impress if you've made a bad first impression on him.

Ah, if only Cameron were on the ballot in America this year....

Cameron is a dope.. who cares.. unless he is another illegal vote for Obama..

plus the article is total nonsense.. Cameron is not on record with any point of view
 
Cammeron is a dope.. who cares.. unless he is another illegal vote for Obama..

Cameron is, by far, a better and more intelligent leader than any Republican President or aspirant to the Presidency since Richard Nixon.

You wouldn't understand it, since your brand of 'conservatism' is the intellectual equivalent of an Oscar-Meyer hot dog, but Cameron is actually representative of that philosophy.
 
On the other hand, our man child in chief is doing a wonderful job illustrating to the Arab world that Israel isn't much of an ally anymore.

More cover threads for Obama's collosal failure to bring stability to the MIddle East....something he promised he could deliver. How's that Arab Spring working out now Obama?
 
I sincerely doubt it. What you take as being a "wussy" is actually noblesse oblige; Cameron in particular is generally a hard man to impress if you've made a bad first impression on him.

Ah, if only Cameron were on the ballot in America this year....

You are giving him too much credit. Sure he can stand up to the other European leaders because he has leverage... his country hasn't adopted the euro and all the other leaders, from EU closet maoist barosso to the "iron lady" merkel... all want the UK to adopt the euro in order to "increase confidence". So he can basically do whatever he wants because he is the man. With the US, it is a different story. As it is with all other countries... and with those in his country. His administration has bowed down to islamist demands one too many times and his accommodation policy will most likely end him. As well as his failure to get the economy up and running. The only place he doesn't give ground to is the real euro-skeptics in Britain... but after this next election cycle, we'll see.

Islamists... not muslims. Just the muslims extremists...
 
See, this -

His administration has bowed down to islamist demands one too many times and his accommodation policy will most likely end him. As well as his failure to get the economy up and running. The only place he doesn't give ground to is the real euro-skeptics in Britain... but after this next election cycle, we'll see.

Islamists... not muslims. Just the muslims extremists...

- isn't a real issue at all. Cameron knows that these people are going to assimilate within two or three generations, and isn't willing to get his hands dirty pandering to the base on it. Cameron's genius lies in his ability to ensure that the markets are working smoothly without having to resort to insipid populism of the sort that the Republicans in America have stooped to.
 
Cameron is, by far, a better and more intelligent leader than any Republican President or aspirant to the Presidency since Richard Nixon.

You wouldn't understand it, since your brand of 'conservatism' is the intellectual equivalent of an Oscar-Meyer hot dog, but Cameron is actually representative of that philosophy.

Thanks for another vacant post of nothing.. your posts teach me that though pixels are sorta free, some still can waste them..

I think we all know Cameron..
 
Thanks for another vacant post of nothing.. your posts teach me that though pixels are sorta free, some still can waste them..

I think we all know Cameron..

Quick: name a single policy position that the Cameron ministry has tried to pass.
 
Why on Earth would any American politician, seeking to engender support from the Right-Wing of the American Political Spectrum listen to a word that the British people, press, or politicians say?
 
Mr Weinstein told the BBC: “I witnessed Prime Minister saying to a group of people, myself included, that Mitt Romney had that unique distinction of uniting all of England against him with his various remarks. On behalf of my love of England, I have to support the President [Barack Obama] who is anything but making faux-pas.”

I'm sorry.

But I need more evidence than hearsay to believe this was said.
 
Why on Earth would any American politician, seeking to engender support from the Right-Wing of the American Political Spectrum listen to a word that the British people, press, or politicians say?

Why wouldn't they?

I realize that you're an isolationist and, as such, not particularly qualified intellectually to speak on matters of foreign policy, but that nation has historically been America's most important ally. The last row the United States had with the United Kingdom was in 1921.

If I offend your foreign policy sensibilities, perhaps I can appeal to your traditionalism: all of America's intellectual and cultural heritage comes from Great Britain. And the British people remain far closer to that heritage than do Americans. Perhaps it would be wise to listen to their leader.
 
See, this -

- isn't a real issue at all. Cameron knows that these people are going to assimilate within two or three generations, and isn't willing to get his hands dirty pandering to the base on it. Cameron's genius lies in his ability to ensure that the markets are working smoothly without having to resort to insipid populism of the sort that the Republicans in America have stooped to.

Though the general consensus is that the hindu indian communities in the UK have integrated well enough... there have been signals over the past 2 years that said image, painted perfectly by leaders of the asian indian communities and the UK leaders over decades... is actually a lie. Or rather... its starting to crack. With an increase set of challenges between the UK and India, on both the diplomatic and the economic field, hindu youth in England seems to develop a sort of nationalism towards their country. Moreover, with the increase in political correctness, more and more hindu indians are finding themselves put in the same pot as muslims and arabs from pakistan.. who are generally viewed as trouble makers (because they are) and religious extremists (because they are). Add to that the fact that muslims and hindu's don't get along, historically and locally in the UK... you get quite the boiling pot over there.

I don't think integration by traditional means works. I don't think that because Islam is not a religion of integration and because the constant influx of migrants from home reminds people where their traditional place is... and what their traditional values are.

You see, the difference between asian indians and arabs is that asian indians who came in the UK came from an environment which was already very westernized. India was the jewel of UK colonies and western influence was prominent. Pakistan is no India from any point of view... and the cultural baggage it exports with every citizen is far from the westernized cultural baggage indians came in the UK with.
 
Though the general consensus is that the hindu indian communities in the UK have integrated well enough... there have been signals over the past 2 years that said image, painted perfectly by leaders of the asian indian communities and the UK leaders over decades... is actually a lie. Or rather... its starting to crack. With an increase set of challenges between the UK and India, on both the diplomatic and the economic field, hindu youth in England seems to develop a sort of nationalism towards their country. Moreover, with the increase in political correctness, more and more hindu indians are finding themselves put in the same pot as muslims and arabs from pakistan.. who are generally viewed as trouble makers (because they are) and religious extremists (because they are). Add to that the fact that muslims and hindu's don't get along, historically and locally in the UK... you get quite the boiling pot over there.

I don't think integration by traditional means works. I don't think that because Islam is not a religion of integration and because the constant influx of migrants from home reminds people where their traditional place is... and what their traditional values are.

You see, the difference between asian indians and arabs is that asian indians who came in the UK came from an environment which was already very westernized. India was the jewel of UK colonies and western influence was prominent. Pakistan is no India from any point of view... and the cultural baggage it exports with every citizen is far from the westernized cultural baggage indians came in the UK with.

You're vastly overstating the case.

I have business dealings in England and travel there on a fairly routine basis. I'm at a loss as to where you get the idea that the Pakistanis or Arabs are viewed as 'trouble makers'; that's a common perception in the States, but the view from the ground in Britain is that militant Muslims are less of a nuisance than the white nationalists in the British National Party (and for good reason, too, as the Islamists have been responsible for far fewer deaths).

I've never seen any signs of a latent Indian nationalism, and I wouldn't be particularly bothered by it if it existed.
 
Quick: name a single policy position that the Cameron ministry has tried to pass.

huh?... I know he wanted to lower taxes, but never did.. he really was very typical, talked like a conservative as far as taxes but never really did any sort of reform.. I think he wanted to do reform with the aviation industry and lowering of taxes.. Im not sure if he got that done..

again.. who cares.. the guy talks out of both sides of his mouth... Thatcher he is not..
 
huh?... I know he wanted to lower taxes, but never did.. he really was very typical, talked like a conservative as far as taxes but never really did any sort of reform..

again.. who cares.. the guy talks out of both sides of his mouth... Thatcher he is not..

What taxes did he want to lower, Travis007?

See, I'm betting you can't name any.
 
I realize that you're an isolationist and, as such, not particularly qualified intellectually to speak on matters of foreign policy, but that nation has historically been America's most important ally. The last row the United States had with the United Kingdom was in 1921.

That self-same nation is also the one which my forefathers had to bleed and shed other's blood to separate ourselves from due to their tyrany and lack of values. I do not believe that the United States HAS, EVER HAS HAD, or EVER WILL HAVE true Allies. Not the UK, not NATO, definitely not the UN. Nobody.

If I offend your foreign policy sensibilities, perhaps I can appeal to your traditionalism: all of America's intellectual and cultural heritage comes from Great Britain. And the British people remain far closer to that heritage than do Americans. Perhaps it would be wise to listen to their leader.

No. SOME of America's intellectual and cultural heritage comes from Great Britian. Other parts of it come from France, Germany, Spain, and a host of other nations whose people have come to these shores seeking to add something to the melting pot. America is a "Stone Soup" and pretty much always has been. For those unfamiliar with "Stone Soup", it's a term for a type of pot-luck even where everyone brings whatever ingredient they may have and places it in a kettle. The resulting, often quite unusual meal is divided between all who have provided something.

The people of this nation chose to separate ourselves from Great Britian BY FORCE. Maybe that should have told someone on that side of the pond that we're not interested in their opinions anymore.
 
they will call Cameron a European socialist.

That'd be a riot and a half.

If it should be immaterial what Americans think of Cameron, why should we care what Brits (or anyone else external) think about Romney?

I certainly don't. I don't care what they think about our election, period. It's not their election.

The Guardian once tried to organize an e-mail campaign to influence the 2004 election. How should Brits react if Americans attempted to do the same in the UK?
 
I've been to England too. Though I had no contact directly with either of the things I talk about, that's because I wasn't going there to look for these things. I was there minding my own bloody business.

I get these opinions from the same place everybody does... the news, talk shows and what naught. I am not looking for them, but when I see something that sparks my interest and I want to verify it, I come across such things. What I mentioned are things I verified. Also, I'm not talking about things on a huge scale... as with all things, they are small groups of people with big mouths who are supported, silently or occasionally, by large groups of people.
 
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