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Romney's big mistake

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Instead of running a negative campaign based on untrue charges such as our economy is worse off than when Obama took office, or Obama wants to gut medicare, or Obama hates business, or Obama loves terrorists. -outrageous

Romney should've ran on a message that the President did a good job but he's got new ideas of his own different from previous Republican polices (which he has none), which failed miserably and had disastrous consequences. He should list those policies and ideas, then say why they are better than the policies of the current administration.

Instead of saying "the other guy sucks" and then making up false statistics and claims, he should've ran on "why I can do even better". List what he would've done differently if he were Obama in the past four years and why those decisions are better, and then say what he thought the president did well and would have done the same himself. Then of course apply the same process with a road map for the future if he were elected president.
 
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Romney needs to take advantage of his running mate.

Ryan's plan to change the way our government handles finances is the perfect solution.

We need to make significant cuts in entitlement programs like welfare and medicare.
 
shiang said:
Instead of running a negative campaign based on untrue charges such as our economy is worse off than when Obama took office, or Obama wants to gut medicare, or Obama hates business, or Obama loves terrorists. -outrageous

Romney should've ran on a message that the President did a good job but he's got new ideas of his own different from previous Republican polices (which he has none), which failed miserably and had disastrous consequences. He should list those policies and ideas, then say why they are better than the policies of the current administration.

Instead of saying "the other guy sucks" and then making up false statistics and claims, he should've ran on "why I can do even better". List what he would've done differently if he were Obama in the past four years and why those decisions are better, and then say what he thought the president did well and would have done the same himself. Then of course apply the same process with a road map for the future if he were elected president.
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In otherwords you want Romney to endorse Obama and concede.
 
shiang said:
Instead of running a negative campaign based on untrue charges such as our economy is worse off than when Obama took office, or Obama wants to gut medicare, or Obama hates business, or Obama loves terrorists. -outrageous

Romney should've ran on a message that the President did a good job but he's got new ideas of his own different from previous Republican polices (which he has none), which failed miserably and had disastrous consequences. He should list those policies and ideas, then say why they are better than the policies of the current administration.

Instead of saying "the other guy sucks" and then making up false statistics and claims, he should've ran on "why I can do even better". List what he would've done differently if he were Obama in the past four years and why those decisions are better, and then say what he thought the president did well and would have done the same himself. Then of course apply the same process with a road map for the future if he were elected president.
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You are aware he HAS done this?

A constant refrain from hard right liners is that he calls Obama a nice guy too much. That his criticism isnt blunt enough. Your first paragraph is a fantasy in regards to whats been said by Romney. Just a heads up but the economic trends all point to Obama's policies not moving things in the right direction or moving it very slowly and is showing signs of stalling again. QE3 wasnt launched because the economy was good---just a heads up.

Compile that with an almost total failure of soft power in the middle east and you have a President whose policies have been very ineffectual.
 
Well you technical can blame current slowdowns on the republican house blocking measures as policies take 1-2 years to take effect and guess what interim elections were 1-2 years ago.

If Romney said Obama did a good job and he can do better. The hard right who thinks Obama is terrible will still vote for Romney while he doesn't have to be in a position to defend his lies and will be better at reaching independents and moderate lefts.

This is what happens when you don't take constructive criticism.

joko104 said:
In otherwords you want Romney to endorse Obama and concede.
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not such a bad idea at this point
 
A republican candidate taking constructive criticism from a progressive is the definition of a fool. And Romney is no fool.
 
clownboy said:
A republican candidate taking constructive criticism from a progressive is the definition of a fool. And Romney is no fool.
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Good, solid, conservative reasoning. By that definition then I totally agree Romney is brilliant.
 
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Actually, I think that's a valid strategy. If I had thrown my hat in the ring (SPECKLEBANG 2012) I would say that Obama was a good guy who meant really well and has done a few great things but overall, I'm much more qualified and here is a package of my great ideas (like the Mandatory Savings Account and other brilliant concepts by Specklebang) and I bet I'd get more votes. Being nice is a good strategy and a disappointed Obama-previous-voter might agree that Obama has been mediocre. When you use all lies and hostility, it just hardens positions.

...and before anyone decides this is partisan to anyone but Specklebang of course, I'm voting for Gary Johnson. Who has pretty much used that strategy so far. Polite criticism.
 
shiang said:
Good, solid, conservative reasoning. By that definition then I totally agree Romney is brilliant, at not taking constructive criticism.
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From his advisors, yes. From a progressive who wants nothing more than for him to be defeated? Terrible argument. C'mon you're not a sock puppet. Even a heavily biased person can see how foolish that would be.
 
specklebang said:
Actually, I think that's a valid strategy. If I had thrown my hat in the ring (SPECKLEBANG 2012) I would say that Obama was a good guy who meant really well and has done a few great things but overall, I'm much more qualified and here is a package of my great ideas (like the Mandatory Savings Account and other brilliant concepts by Specklebang) and I bet I'd get more votes.
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Unfortunately, you'd get blown out of the water.

Being nice is a good strategy and a disappointed Obama-previous-voter might agree that Obama has been mediocre. When you use all lies and hostility, it just hardens positions.

...and before anyone decides this is partisan to anyone but Specklebang of course, I'm voting for Gary Johnson. Who has pretty much used that strategy so far. Polite criticism
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Negative campaigns work better. I'm not saying it should be that way, but they definitely do. If a positive campaign were a better way to get votes, then the candidates would do that. But the easiest way to get people riled up for you is to get the riled up against someone else. People love being part of "us vs them's."
 
johnny_rebson said:
We'll have to agree to disagree there. Mitt created RomneyCare. Mitt also signed anti-gun legislation into law and raised taxes.
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I'm fine with the first, but that last, not the sign of a fool, just someone we disagree with. I'm not stumping for Mitt, but I am voting for him. Lesser of two evils in my book.
 
Oh, yeah, I know you're probably right. That's why I didn't run this year. Still, if I had, I would have to try my strategy for better or worse.

As it is now, in just 2 months half of us will hate the other half of us. Look at the damage done to Romney by his competitors. That bad stuff sticks inside peoples heads.

Sorry, I have to go and brush my Unicorn now......


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Unfortunately, you'd get blown out of the water.



Negative campaigns work better. I'm not saying it should be that way, but they definitely do. If a positive campaign were a better way to get votes, then the candidates would do that. But the easiest way to get people riled up for you is to get the riled up against someone else. People love being part of "us vs them's."
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shiang said:
Instead of running a negative campaign based on untrue charges such as our economy is worse off than when Obama took office, or Obama wants to gut medicare, or Obama hates business, or Obama loves terrorists. -outrageous

Romney should've ran on a message that the President did a good job but he's got new ideas of his own different from previous Republican polices (which he has none), which failed miserably and had disastrous consequences. He should list those policies and ideas, then say why they are better than the policies of the current administration.

Instead of saying "the other guy sucks" and then making up false statistics and claims, he should've ran on "why I can do even better". List what he would've done differently if he were Obama in the past four years and why those decisions are better, and then say what he thought the president did well and would have done the same himself. Then of course apply the same process with a road map for the future if he were elected president.
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I prefer Obama as POTUS yet if Romney had been that smart and stayed true to his beliefs as he governed in Massachusetts he could have gained some of the "undecideds' votes. By pandering swaying which ever way the Rush base wanted he has lost ... not just the election yet he lost his sense of self and respect.

He is a fool ... he bad mouthed policies he believes in and supported ... lied at every turn and then blew off his mouth he could run the economy based on his genius at making money ...yet it is unwilling to be transparent and truthful on his own finance.

Damn ... he is slippery ... hundreds of millions in offshore accounts and not paying taxes ... yet he sure can blow off his mouth on how he would spend our tax revenues.
 
specklebang said:
Actually, I think that's a valid strategy. If I had thrown my hat in the ring (SPECKLEBANG 2012) I would say that Obama was a good guy who meant really well and has done a few great things but overall, I'm much more qualified and here is a package of my great ideas (like the Mandatory Savings Account and other brilliant concepts by Specklebang) and I bet I'd get more votes. Being nice is a good strategy and a disappointed Obama-previous-voter might agree that Obama has been mediocre. When you use all lies and hostility, it just hardens positions.

...and before anyone decides this is partisan to anyone but Specklebang of course, I'm voting for Gary Johnson. Who has pretty much used that strategy so far. Polite criticism.
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Politicians, as elected officials, are purely products of the public's voting habits. If people truly have a problem with the behavior of politicians, they should begin by looking at themselves.

The fact is, the stigma of the two party system combined with the lesser of two evil attitudes has made attack-based politics advantageous. Politicians get elected not by making themselves look good, but by making the other guy look bad. Combine this with the notion that third party voting is doing nothing but getting that evil guy they told you about elected and you have a fairly successful political strategy. This won't change until the public dismisses the lesser of two evils mantra and votes for the best candidate regardless.
 
And here I thought Romney's big mistake was becoming a puppet for the republican establishment.
 
Dion said:
Damn ... he is slippery ... hundreds of millions in offshore accounts and not paying taxes ... yet he sure can blow off his mouth on how he would spend our tax revenues.
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You should write the IRS and share your proof with them, they'll be interested. Because as far as they're concerned, now, he's on the up and up.
 
Yes- that fire 750 people or reduce wages from poor $10 to $8 hr,....... GRAND plans like that he has! LMAO

( this is what ROMNEY has already done in the companys he took over)
 
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