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Poll: In Ohio, 15% of "very conservative" think Romney killed Osama Bin Ladin

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Obama was inaugurated on Jan 20, 2009, his first major legislation was the $831 Billion Stimulus plan American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia was enacted on Feb 17 2009. If you know anything about economics, policies take at least a year or two to take effect. So the effect of his policies should be seen between 2010 and 2011. Republicans (and the "Tea party") took control of the House in 2011 so if I wanted to be picky I can attribute the current slow down in growth to them. I'm willing to take it as a natural mini recession in the economic cycle.

So...
1.Employment is UP
2.Unemployment was over 10% when Obama took office it's down to 8.3% (not good, and our president agrees, but much better)

This is generally common knowledge but if you want me to cite sources I can. The 8.3% is words from Romney adds not my words.

Stocks:

Dow Jones:

From under 7000 to over 14000
Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) History

Nasdaq:

From under 1400 to over 3100
NASDAQ Composite History

S&P500:

From under 700 to over 1400
S&P 500 History

I swear if no drastic measures and policy changes were made the Dow would go under 4k and we'd be headed into depression. I give credit to Bush for making some good decisions at the end of his office. Though the tax cuts and deregulation policies along with starting unnecessary wars were key contributors to our economic collapse.

National Debt:

Debt went from 10+ trillion to 14+ Trillion. For those of you who aren't familiar with global economics this is completely NORMAL. Given the hand he was dealt, the companies he saved, the expansion of health coverage under Obamacare I'd say he did a good job.

BTW to put things in perspective Reagan almost quadrupled the debt (and George W. Bush almost doubled the debt (from under 6 trillion to over 10 trillion)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ng/800px-US_Public_Debt_Ceiling_1981-2010.png

Keep in mind this graph is linear and you have to use % increase.

Heck even gas prices are down from four years ago where it was over $4.10 now now hovering around $3.80
 
4% very liberal say Romney is more responsible as well.

I wonder what inclines people to state these things?

The same thing that inclines such low voter turnout and voting on party lines. Some people just don't pay attention.
 
Well, some people are stupid....

Agreed, and a goodly number of democrats think President Obama has been a good president. Some folks just don't pay attention to any but their own internal dialogue, especially where it comes to politics. :mrgreen:
 
Agreed, and a goodly number of democrats think President Obama has been a good president. Some folks just don't pay attention to any but their own internal dialogue, especially where it comes to politics. :mrgreen:

Difference in opinion is not the same as ignorant. Whether or not Obama is a good president is not a fact, it's an opnion. Whether or not Romney was in a position to assassinate Bin Laden is a fact.
 
Romney killed bin laden...ok...lol...
 
Did you WATCH the videos? its the perfect foil to anyone that points out 'very conservative people...simply show videos of 'Obama supporters'. Like...did you know they SUPPORT his choice of Palin for VP because she is a smart woman and good candidate? Did you know Obama supporters really believe in Obamas anti abortion stand? It goes on and on.



lol who's Barney Frank? I don't even know who he was. Apparently he's the head of House Financial Services Committee. That video is so messed up it's practically quizzing people on political trivia for average Americans on short sound clips.

Regarding redistribution of wealth

http://www.mydollarplan.com/tax-brackets/

Take a look at the 2012 tax brackets those numbers I've verified from multiple sources.

Now tell me if you made 50 million a year which bracket do you belong to? Romney is paying no more than 14% and donating next to nothing in charity except the 10% to his church as some well noted "his tax to his god".

If the tax brackets are fair the super rich should pay 50% taxes not 15%. AFTER they show proof that they invest their money THEN that money should be tax deductible.

Sure it's re-distribution of wealth. It's re-distribution of wealth that favor the super rich.

I prefer to call these tax hikes the "un-distribution of wealth".

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I looked the the poll in detail, I actually didn't no much about Julian Castro except seeing him at the democratic national convention.
 
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Agreed, and a goodly number of democrats think President Obama has been a good president. Some folks just don't pay attention to any but their own internal dialogue, especially where it comes to politics. :mrgreen:

Sure sounds like you I just posted a pile of data supporting my claim. You didn't address or refute any of it and here comes empty lies.
 
lol who's Barney Frank? I don't even know who he was. Apparently he's the head of House Financial Services Committee. That video is so messed up it's practically quizzing people on political trivia for average Americans on short sound clips.

Regarding redistribution of wealth

http://www.mydollarplan.com/tax-brackets/

Take a look at the 2012 tax brackets those numbers I've verified from multiple sources.

Now tell me if you made 50 million a year which bracket do you belong to? Romney is paying no more than 14% and donating next to nothing in charity except the 10% to his church as some well noted "his tax to his god".

If the tax brackets are fair the super rich should pay 50% taxes not 15%. AFTER they show proof that they invest their money THEN that money should be tax deductible.

Sure it's re-distribution of wealth. It's re-distribution of wealth that favor the super rich.

I prefer to call these tax hikes the "un-distribution of wealth".

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I looked the the poll in detail, I actually didn't no much about Julian Castro except seeing him at the democratic national convention.
What that video proves is that you can take any average dumbass...such as yourself apparently...ask them a question associated with 'their boy'...and prove they dont have the first ****ing clue about their boy...they are just voting for them. Extremists...left-right... all the same.
 
Props to ILIVEONRAMEN for finding this gem...

PPP Ohio Poll 09/09/2012

Q15 Who do you think deserves more credit for the
killing of Osama bin Laden: Barack Obama or
Mitt Romney?
Barack Obama................................................ 63%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 6%
Not sure .......................................................... 31%

Of those who self identify as "Very Conservative" 15% think Romney deserves credit for killing OBL, 51% are not sure. WOW!!!!


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_9912.pdf

Why would a reputable organization conducting a serious poll even ask such a question? What purpose would such a biased question serve? Unless they were just fishing. In which case people would not feel obligated to take it seriously. Public Policy polling is a just another dem outfit intent on shaping opinion instead of reporting it.
 
There was no error. What I said was clear... I was indicating that both sides would do the same thing.

If you were indicating they would do the 'same thing' you would have typed in:

Watch. Now we get to see a whole host of liberals posting studies that show that liberals are smarter, and a whole host of conservatives posting studies that show conservatives are smarter, proving... nothing.

not

Watch. Now we get to see a whole host of liberals posting studies that show that liberals are smarter, and a whole host of conservatives showing that conservatives are smarter, proving... nothing.

As I said, anyone should have caught your ERROR and understood what you were saying. But have no doubt, you did in fact posted something that lists both sides performing different actions.

Because posting studies to 'show' something, is not the same as merely 'showing' something. You can 'show' in many different ways. Sorry, words have meanings. No wiggling out of that reality.

Most people have the ability to admit when they make such a simple mistake and at least say they did, and further clarify. Or in the case of DP, at least become uncivil and scream that people should have been able to figure out what you were trying to say even though you words did not say it.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by avusbluem5 View Post:


Of those who self identify as "Very Conservative" 15% think Romney deserves credit for killing OBL, 51% are not sure. WOW!!!!

MY RESPONSE:

Should be a helluva lot higher than 15% because Obama killed Osama:

(1) NOT out of any sense of patriotism but because it was the political correct thing to do. Obviously Obama doesn't deserve any credit because he was dissuaded by Valerie Jarrett, his Chief Advisor & self-acknowledged "obama brain" THREE TIMES.

(2) The CIA Agent Rodriquez who attended WaterBoarding Sessions claimed that in WaterBoarding Khaild Sheik MoHaHaHaMAD, one the leaders of Al Queda, the info that was extracted from this POS, and others, led to the info that deepsixed The IslamoFascist Swine Obama Bin Laden.

(3)It is our agents that favor Romney.....not the Muslim Appeaser Obama ......who can be counted on to destroy the IslamoFascist Swine.

Check out the attitude of the Obama-type State Dept response to the latest IslamoFascist Atrocity in Egypt:
 
Quote Originally Posted by avusbluem5 View Post:


Of those who self identify as "Very Conservative" 15% think Romney deserves credit for killing OBL, 51% are not sure. WOW!!!!

MY RESPONSE:

Should be a helluva lot higher than 15% because Obama killed Osama:

(1) NOT out of any sense of patriotism but because it was the political correct thing to do. Obviously Obama doesn't deserve any credit because he was dissuaded by Valerie Jarrett, his Chief Advisor & self-acknowledged "obama brain" THREE TIMES.

(2) The CIA Agent Rodriquez who attended WaterBoarding Sessions claimed that in WaterBoarding Khaild Sheik MoHaHaHaMAD, one the leaders of Al Queda, the info that was extracted from this POS, and others, led to the info that deepsixed The IslamoFascist Swine Obama Bin Laden.

(3)It is our agents that favor Romney.....not the Muslim Appeaser Obama ......who can be counted on to destroy the IslamoFascist Swine.

Check out the attitude of the Obama-type State Dept response to the latest IslamoFascist Atrocity in Egypt:

From the Most recent NEW YORKER article:

Egyptian demonstrators climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo today and pulled down the American flag to protest a film they say is insulting to the prophet Mohammad.

Reuters reports that protesters tried to raise a black flag carrying the slogan: "There is no god but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger."

The news agency says about 2,000 protesters have gathered outside the embassy and about 20 have scaled the walls.

After the protest, the U.S. Embassy issued this statement on its website:
"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims â?? as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."

PATHETIC !!!
 
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If you were indicating they would do the 'same thing' you would have typed in:



not



As I said, anyone should have caught your ERROR and understood what you were saying. But have no doubt, you did in fact posted something that lists both sides performing different actions.

Because posting studies to 'show' something, is not the same as merely 'showing' something. You can 'show' in many different ways. Sorry, words have meanings. No wiggling out of that reality.

Most people have the ability to admit when they make such a simple mistake and at least say they did, and further clarify. Or in the case of DP, at least become uncivil and scream that people should have been able to figure out what you were trying to say even though you words did not say it.

No, anyone with an understanding of how conversations work would understand that what I said was equivalent. There was no error.
 
Well, some people are stupid....
So are the 45% of somewhat liberals and 54% of very liberal who have a favourable view of Castro. Only 11% among both of them had an unfavourable view.

I can see why a very liberal would have a favourable view of Castro, but not among somewhat liberals. They should know better or admit they are far left.
 
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Poll: In Ohio, 15% of "very conservative" think Romney killed Osama Bin Ladin

And twice as many liberals actually believe the economy is booming and jobs are plentiful, so what's your point?
 
Poll: In Ohio, 15% of "very conservative" think Romney killed Osama Bin Ladin

And twice as many liberals actually believe the economy is booming and jobs are plentiful, so what's your point?

Tell me Grim. What do you think of the 15% of "very conservatives" who think that Romney had something to do wit Bin Ladin being killed?
 
Romney does like taking credit for things he opposed. Wouldn't surprise me if romney takes credit for killing obl too.

 
why wasn't "SEAL team 6" an option on the poll question?

Exactly. It would have been a valid and, as a matter of fact, the correct answer. Obama himself didn't kill them, then again, he gave the order. But still...
 
Exactly. It would have been a valid and, as a matter of fact, the correct answer. Obama himself didn't kill them, then again, he gave the order. But still...


By that logic obl wouldnt be responsible for 9-11 because he didnt fly the planes into the buildings. Obama killed obl. Deal with it.
 
By that logic obl wouldnt be responsible for 9-11 because he didnt fly the planes into the buildings. Obama killed obl. Deal with it.

If I tell you to kill someone and you kill them, who is, in the eye's of the law, guilty? The answer is: both. But in the end, who pulled the trigger?
 
I keep saying we need to bring back poll testing.
 
No, anyone with an understanding of how conversations work would understand that what I said was equivalent. There was no error.

It's not unexpected that upstairs you are limited. Denial is pointless when everyone can see it. I even gave you credit that most people should have been able to figure it out.

You have been proven wrong again. Time for you to find a coping method.
 
I bet a lot of people still believe Obama's Muslim. Not that it even matters.

Could be because of things like this:







And him explaining the Islamic/Muslim religion in a praising way and praises Muslims.






Yet on Christmas he never mentioned Jesus Christ or Christianity nor a positive word about Christianity or the holiday's religious meaning.







No, I am not saying Obama is a Muslim. I don't know what his religion is because, like nearly all politicians, Obama is a liar - often. I don't care what his religious beliefs are. However, highly active Christians may care a lot and may also notice such statements for content - and lack of content.

Thus, there are reasons people say he is a Muslim between him saying he is a Muslim until corrected by a reporter and his giving a Islamic religious statement on a Muslim religious holiday and no mention of Christianity or Christ that the Christian holiday is named after - as examples.
 
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