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Where does Romney really stand on "Obamacare"?

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After saying that he would work to repeal "Obamacare", (perhaps a better term is "Obomneycare") on "day one" he seems to support key components of the health care reform act, maybe:

[h=1]Romney Campaign Backpedals After He Says Nice Things About Obamacare[/h]
There seems to be some confusion about what provisions of Obamacare Mitt Romney says he wants to keep, but some of that confusion seems to belong to Romney himself. On Meet The Press yesterday, Romney stated that there are "a number of things" in the President's health care reform bill that he plans to include in his own, once he gets the chance to replace it.

...spokesman later clarified that stance by saying that Romney would not pass a federal law that required insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions.

Just as an aside, I wonder just when the Constitution was changed to allow the president to pass laws of any sort? Somehow, I must have missed that one.
 
After saying that he would work to repeal "Obamacare", (perhaps a better term is "Obomneycare") on "day one" he seems to support key components of the health care reform act, maybe:

[h=1]Romney Campaign Backpedals After He Says Nice Things About Obamacare[/h]




Just as an aside, I wonder just when the Constitution was changed to allow the president to pass laws of any sort? Somehow, I must have missed that one.

Like most things being said right now by both sides, this is just campaign season rhetoric to give his base what they want, unfortunately for this instance he didn't think everything fully through so he didn't have a good answer when his comments were questioned. They'll come up with some good notes and release them to the press later and everything will be fine as usual :).
 
Like most things being said right now by both sides, this is just campaign season rhetoric to give his base what they want, unfortunately for this instance he didn't think everything fully through so he didn't have a good answer when his comments were questioned. They'll come up with some good notes and release them to the press later and everything will be fine as usual :).

You mean to say that campaign rhetoric is as meaningless as the hooting of chimpanzees in the local zoo?

Say it isn't so! I've been hanging on every word uttered by the two candidates.
 
You mean to say that campaign rhetoric is as meaningless as the hooting of chimpanzees in the local zoo?

Say it isn't so! I've been hanging on every word uttered by the two candidates.

Romney is so proud of his Health Care legislation in Mass, that he had an image of the bill included in his official portrait.

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Romney pushed for individual mandate in Mass., emails show | Need to Know | PBS

Romney encouraged Obama to "Follow his example in Mass".

The idea that he will Repeal Obama's legislation and replace it with anything significantly different is absurd. He loves that the Fed law was based on Mass. Any changes he suggests will be superficial at most.
 
After saying that he would work to repeal "Obamacare", (perhaps a better term is "Obomneycare") on "day one" he seems to support key components of the health care reform act, maybe:

[h=1]Romney Campaign Backpedals After He Says Nice Things About Obamacare[/h]

Just as an aside, I wonder just when the Constitution was changed to allow the president to pass laws of any sort? Somehow, I must have missed that one.

Are you trying that hard to remain unattached to him, that you feel a need to create confusion he doesn't have?

Do you really think everything about the federal government trying to look after the health of its citizen is a bad thing, and that every aspect of the ACA is wrong? The ACA was wrong on many levels, but Romney is right to point out, the protection of being able to keep your healthcoverage when you lose a job is a good thing... and that's one area of the ACA which resembles CommonwealthCare...

This is nothing new... he's said that all along...

The problem with the ACA comes more from the added costs, the added governmental oversight, the lack of low-cost private pool coverage... the lack of indiviuality to cater to the specific needs of the states (as in, the difference between MA increasing from 92/93% insured residents to 97/98% insured residents being different from the national average of 17% uninsured, FL has 22% uninsured (and 17% on Medicare/Medicaid)... America's Uninsured Belt - Jobs & Economy - The Atlantic Cities , the size of the penalties both on individuals who do not purchase insurance and on companies that have over 50 empoyees to provide health insurance... etc.

The problem with the ACA is not that it helped people afford healthcare...

So what Romney said all along is that he's going to repeal ObamaCare, keep the good parts, get rid of the other parts... block grant the money to the states, and allow the states to craft whatever plan they want to deal with the insurance issue... and that many of the states plans will look similar to his in MA, but that it won't work everywhere... That his MA plan was dealing with a specific problem to MA, not the national problem...

Again, he's said that all along... he said that in 2008 (regarding his own plan, and his intentions for dealing with healthcare as president), and he's said the same thing in 2012 (as he'd been saying about the ACA since 2010)...

Maybe the confusion is really yours...
 
Are you trying that hard to remain unattached to him, that you feel a need to create confusion he doesn't have?

Do you really think everything about the federal government trying to look after the health of its citizen is a bad thing, and that every aspect of the ACA is wrong? The ACA was wrong on many levels, but Romney is right to point out, the protection of being able to keep your healthcoverage when you lose a job is a good thing... and that's one area of the ACA which resembles CommonwealthCare...

This is nothing new... he's said that all along...

The problem with the ACA comes more from the added costs, the added governmental oversight, the lack of low-cost private pool coverage... the lack of indiviuality to cater to the specific needs of the states (as in, the difference between MA increasing from 92/93% insured residents to 97/98% insured residents being different from the national average of 17% uninsured, FL has 22% uninsured (and 17% on Medicare/Medicaid)... America's Uninsured Belt - Jobs & Economy - The Atlantic Cities , the size of the penalties both on individuals who do not purchase insurance and on companies that have over 50 empoyees to provide health insurance... etc.

The problem with the ACA is not that it helped people afford healthcare...

So what Romney said all along is that he's going to repeal ObamaCare, keep the good parts, get rid of the other parts... block grant the money to the states, and allow the states to craft whatever plan they want to deal with the insurance issue... and that many of the states plans will look similar to his in MA, but that it won't work everywhere... That his MA plan was dealing with a specific problem to MA, not the national problem...

Again, he's said that all along... he said that in 2008 (regarding his own plan, and his intentions for dealing with healthcare as president), and he's said the same thing in 2012 (as he'd been saying about the ACA since 2010)...

Maybe the confusion is really yours...

Perhaps it is.

What I remember is that he said he would work to "repeal Obamacare from day 1". Perhaps, in my confusion about all of the rhetoric, I heard "repeal" when he really said, "make some minor changes here and there."

Could campaign rhetoric really have some meaning after all?
 
Romney is still waiting for his magic Etch-A-Sketch to tell him what his position is.
 
The only thing were are sure about with Romney is that he wants to be president. He desperately wants to make his dad in Heaven proud.
 
Perhaps it is.

What I remember is that he said he would work to "repeal Obamacare from day 1". Perhaps, in my confusion about all of the rhetoric, I heard "repeal" when he really said, "make some minor changes here and there."

Could campaign rhetoric really have some meaning after all?

No, you heard correctly. He will repeal that monster...then he'll ask Congress to craft a more sensible health care bill that might keep some of the very few good parts of Obamacare, add some better parts that the Democrats ignored...and then he'll pass it.

He intends to make more than "minor changes" to Obamacare.
 
The only thing were are sure about with Romney is that he wants to be president. He desperately wants to make his dad in Heaven proud.

Technically, his dad is on planet Kolob.
 
I thought there already was 10 threads on this topic, but I could be mistaken.
 
what should be retained from obamacare? the provision that requires insurance companies to take people with previous conditions, the provision that eliminates maximum lifetime payments. The rest of the BS bill should be repealed.

There was no healthcare crisis in America, they tried to fix a problem that did not exist.
 
No, you heard correctly. He will repeal that monster...then he'll ask Congress to craft a more sensible health care bill that might keep some of the very few good parts of Obamacare, add some better parts that the Democrats ignored...and then he'll pass it.

He intends to make more than "minor changes" to Obamacare.

The link seemed to be talking about a few tweaks.

No, just how is Romney, as president, going to repeal an act of Congress?
 
The link seemed to be talking about a few tweaks.

No, just how is Romney, as president, going to repeal an act of Congress?

ummm...

By getting Congress to send him a bill repealing it?

Come on, dude...don't tell me you don't know how the system works, eh?
 
what should be retained from obamacare? the provision that requires insurance companies to take people with previous conditions, the provision that eliminates maximum lifetime payments. The rest of the BS bill should be repealed.

There was no healthcare crisis in America, they tried to fix a problem that did not exist.


No "healthcare crisis in America"? Americans spend twice as much per capita as the next most expensive nation, the results are worse and getting worse and you still wish to claim the American healthcare system is #1? Just shows you have zero knowledge of the what is happening in the rest of the world.
 
No, you heard correctly. He will repeal that monster...then he'll ask Congress to craft a more sensible health care bill that might keep some of the very few good parts of Obamacare, add some better parts that the Democrats ignored...and then he'll pass it.

He intends to make more than "minor changes" to Obamacare.

Ok, What will he change? WHat will this new health care bill look like? Shouldn't we be able to see it before we vote?
 
ummm...

By getting Congress to send him a bill repealing it?

Come on, dude...don't tell me you don't know how the system works, eh?

I know it well enough to understand that the president can't repeal a bill that Congress has passed. A candidate making promises about what he's going to convince Congress to do is making promises he can't keep.

But, of course, they all do it. Obama did it. Romney is doing it.
 
I know it well enough to understand that the president can't repeal a bill that Congress has passed. A candidate making promises about what he's going to convince Congress to do is making promises he can't keep.

But, of course, they all do it. Obama did it. Romney is doing it.

Well...I guess it's up to the people to get it done, eh?

Look, Romney says what he wants to do. Congress says what they want to do. The fact is, all the Republicans have said they want to repeal Obamacare. So let the people vote for them and get it done.

Frankly, I think you are nit-picking when you talk about Romney not being able to deliver what he desires. Making false objections. We all know it takes Congress AND the President.
 
Ok, What will he change? WHat will this new health care bill look like? Shouldn't we be able to see it before we vote?

You really need to stop asking stupid questions that you can easily find the answers for yourself.

Romney hasn't kept his plans a secret...neither have the Republican Congressmen.

Sheesh!!
 
You really need to stop asking stupid questions that you can easily find the answers for yourself.

Romney hasn't kept his plans a secret...neither have the Republican Congressmen.

Sheesh!!

Actually, he has not only kept his plan secret, but Sunday he said he liked some of the things in Obamacare. Shortly after saying that on Meet the Press, Romney flip flopped and said he would repeal all of Obamacare. That man hasn't been specific on any of his plans and flip flops on a dime.
If ROmney has a healthcare plan that he wants to use to replace Obamacare, I wish you would give me a link to it.
 
Actually, he has not only kept his plan secret, but Sunday he said he liked some of the things in Obamacare. Shortly after saying that on Meet the Press, Romney flip flopped and said he would repeal all of Obamacare. That man hasn't been specific on any of his plans and flip flops on a dime.
If ROmney has a healthcare plan that he wants to use to replace Obamacare, I wish you would give me a link to it.

Go to mittromney.com. After that, go to gop.gov. It's all there.
 
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