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Where does Romney really stand on "Obamacare"?

Mycroft said:
Go to mittromney.com. After that, go to gop.gov. It's all there.
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I have, and there is nothing specific. It's all policial speak. Where are the specifics.
What will Romney keep when it comes to AHA? How will Romney strengthen Medicare and SS? How will Romney turn the economy around? What will he do to make the environment in this country better so businesses can start up or create jobs? I have more questions than answers after visiting these sites.
 
Hairytic said:
I have, and there is nothing specific. It's all policial speak. Where are the specifics.
What will Romney keep when it comes to AHA? How will Romney strengthen Medicare and SS? How will Romney turn the economy around? What will he do to make the environment in this country better so businesses can start up or create jobs? I have more questions than answers after visiting these sites.
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Mitt's Plan

On his first day in office, Mitt Romney will issue an executive order that paves the way for the federal government to issue Obamacare waivers to all fifty states. He will then work with Congress to repeal the full legislation as quickly as possible.

In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.
Health Care | Mitt Romney for President
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Sounds pretty specific to me.

btw, I won't discuss your off-topic issues in this thread. You can start new threads...or better yet, just read his words at that site.
 
Somerville said:
No "healthcare crisis in America"? Americans spend twice as much per capita as the next most expensive nation, the results are worse and getting worse and you still wish to claim the American healthcare system is #1? Just shows you have zero knowledge of the what is happening in the rest of the world.
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obamacare will not change any of that. The cost will not go down but the quality and availability will go down.

Before obamacare no one was denied healthcare treatment--NO ONE--even those here illegally were given free treatment. Those citizens that could not pay were treated FREE. Now, they may have had to wait in line at an ER rather than a fancy clinic, but they were treated.

Your claim about the US being #17 is total BS. People come to the US from all over the world for medical treatment. No other country has healthcare facilities equal to Mayo, Ochsner, MD Anderson, Cleveland clinic, Johns Hopkins and many others.

Obamacare was nothing more than a govt power grab. if it is allowed to continue, it will destroy the best medical system in the world.

Its you, my friend, who has zero knowledge on this topic.
 
Hairytic said:
Actually, he has not only kept his plan secret, but Sunday he said he liked some of the things in Obamacare. Shortly after saying that on Meet the Press, Romney flip flopped and said he would repeal all of Obamacare. That man hasn't been specific on any of his plans and flip flops on a dime.
If ROmney has a healthcare plan that he wants to use to replace Obamacare, I wish you would give me a link to it.
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nice spin. there are a couple of good things in obamacare---that ins companies have to take people with preexisting conditions, and the no limit on lifetime payments. The rest of it needs to go and that is what Romney has proposed.
 
Bobcat said:
nice spin. there are a couple of good things in obamacare---that ins companies have to take people with preexisting conditions, and the no limit on lifetime payments. The rest of it needs to go and that is what Romney has proposed.
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Actually, Romney said he would repeal Obamacare the first day. Then he said he would keep some of it. Then he said he would repeal it and replace it. Then he said he would let the states decided. Romney can't make up his mind.
 
Hairytic said:
Actually, he has not only kept his plan secret, but Sunday he said he liked some of the things in Obamacare. Shortly after saying that on Meet the Press, Romney flip flopped and said he would repeal all of Obamacare. That man hasn't been specific on any of his plans and flip flops on a dime.
If ROmney has a healthcare plan that he wants to use to replace Obamacare, I wish you would give me a link to it.
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You do realize that him wanting to repeal all of PPACA does not mean he can't like part of it. In order for him to be flip flopping he would have had to say there was nothing in PPACA he liked.
 
Bobcat said:
nice spin. there are a couple of good things in obamacare---that ins companies have to take people with preexisting conditions, and the no limit on lifetime payments. The rest of it needs to go and that is what Romney has proposed.
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I like the part about spending a specific % on care and services.
 
Romney stands where ever it is politically convenient to stand at any given time, on any given issue.
 
Hairytic said:
Actually, Romney said he would repeal Obamacare the first day. Then he said he would keep some of it. Then he said he would repeal it and replace it. Then he said he would let the states decided. Romney can't make up his mind.
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there is nothing inconsistent in what he said. first repeal the whole thing, then pass laws to make the good parts permanent. Then pass some laws to fix the real problems in healthcare, like tort reform, eliminate corruption and fraud in medicare and medicaid, and put some reasonable controls on drug patents and pricing.

OH, and stop giving free treatment to illegals--give them life saving treatment only and then deport them.
 
Bobcat said:
there is nothing inconsistent in what he said. first repeal the whole thing, then pass laws to make the good parts permanent. Then pass some laws to fix the real problems in healthcare, like tort reform, eliminate corruption and fraud in medicare and medicaid, and put some reasonable controls on drug patents and pricing.

OH, and stop giving free treatment to illegals--give them life saving treatment only and then deport them.
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I never heard him propse these ideas.
 
Mycroft said:
Well...I guess it's up to the people to get it done, eh?

Look, Romney says what he wants to do. Congress says what they want to do. The fact is, all the Republicans have said they want to repeal Obamacare. So let the people vote for them and get it done.

Frankly, I think you are nit-picking when you talk about Romney not being able to deliver what he desires. Making false objections. We all know it takes Congress AND the President.
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Do we? When you say "we all", does that really include the average voter? I'm not so sure.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Do we? When you say "we all", does that really include the average voter? I'm not so sure.
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Well...from a nation-wide perspective, sure...I'd say there is a sizable portion of people who don't have a clue how our government works. But my post was referring to you and the readers on this forum. I don't consider any of us "average voters".
 
Mycroft said:
Well...from a nation-wide perspective, sure...I'd say there is a sizable portion of people who don't have a clue how our government works. But my post was referring to you and the readers on this forum. I don't consider any of us "average voters".
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Exactly, which is why candidates for president tell us what laws they're going to repeal and what legislation they're going to pass. The average voters eat that stuff up, then blame the president when legislation doesn't get passed or repealed.

Well, they blame him if he belongs to the other party. If he belongs to the party they're cheerleading for, then they tend to forget what he's promised.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Exactly, which is why candidates for president tell us what laws they're going to repeal and what legislation they're going to pass. The average voters eat that stuff up, then blame the president when legislation doesn't get passed or repealed.

Well, they blame him if he belongs to the other party. If he belongs to the party they're cheerleading for, then they tend to forget what he's promised.
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So...what?...you are going to act, in this forum, as if we are all dumbass average voters?
 
Dittohead not! said:
After saying that he would work to repeal "Obamacare", (perhaps a better term is "Obomneycare") on "day one" he seems to support key components of the health care reform act, maybe:

[h=1]Romney Campaign Backpedals After He Says Nice Things About Obamacare[/h]






Just as an aside, I wonder just when the Constitution was changed to allow the president to pass laws of any sort? Somehow, I must have missed that one.
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Silly thread on a couple of points. First in a document, why is it surprising that there may be a couple of good things and a lot of bad? Is that really hard for you to understand?

Next, he is saying what he would want to do, this is called taking a position. Now if you are talking about a president allowed to change a law without congress ask your hero about what he did about certain illegal immigrants, or the killing of American citizens without a trial.
 
Dittohead not! said:
There are plenty of dumbass voters on this forum, if that's what you're asking.
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Okay, dude. You are having fun with your inane one-liners. Cool.

Let me know when you want to get serious, eh?
 
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