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Obama's war on children

tererun said:
yes, you can't argue with what is correct. You have tried very hard to do it.
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When you post something that's correct I'll argue you. Thus far you've not done so.
 
tererun said:
Sorry, but that is not a declaration of war, nor is it obama killing babies. Bad lie is still a bad lie.
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Clearly you need to read #3 of the text.
A live child born as a result of an abortion shall
25 be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate
26 protection under the law.
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Grim17 said:
In your world, not protecting babies from being murdered is not supporting their being killed?

Really?

So, are you going to answer the question, or is your ideology so weak you can't even answer a simple yes or no question?
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There is no murders, you are a liar, no one is killing little babies in a war on children. Please, you are not talking to a world full of romtards who would buy that obama is out there killing little babies. You should probably go to a Romney discussion site if you do not want your crazy lies to be debunked.

In the real world you are just lying. You are making **** up. You are full of ****.
 
For the 4th time.... Do you support or oppose legislation that would protect babies who survive an abortion and are born alive?
 
Grim17 said:
For the 4th time.... Do you support or oppose legislation that would protect babies who survive an abortion and are born alive?
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I support a woman's right to abortion and birth control. No, some pictures of abortion is not going to change that. calling it a war on babies or murder is not going to change that. Really stuipid arguments like you are making here will not effect that. As a matter of fact, these really stupid arguments and lies are the reason i changed from not really caring about abortion to not wanting a complete uncaring idiot making the decision for a woman on whether or not to have a baby. You have proven yourself too insane to make a decision for anyone about the life of a child, and i cannot endorse your bull**** with any law.

but feel free to keep on spouting it.
 
hazlnut said:
Yeah, GOP, let's cut funding to unfit mother's who want an abortion.
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What are you talking about? There is no "funding for unfit mothers who want an abortion" to cut. The taxpayers don't pay for that ****.

If THAT was funded at all in the first place, the United States would have already busted out in a second Civil War. You post about abortion an awful lot to not know anything about its practice within the United States. Come on!
 
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hazlnut said:
Oh, it's time to post disturbing videos to make your case...





Yeah, GOP, let's cut funding to unfit mother's who want an abortion.
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Dumb argument. Abortion is legal. These woman chose not to have them and then caused harm to their children. That would happen with or without laws banning abortion because they didn't utilize abortion instead of murdering their born children when it was already legal.
 
tererun said:
I support a woman's right to abortion and birth control. No, some pictures of abortion is not going to change that. calling it a war on babies or murder is not going to change that. Really stuipid arguments like you are making here will not effect that. As a matter of fact, these really stupid arguments and lies are the reason i changed from not really caring about abortion to not wanting a complete uncaring idiot making the decision for a woman on whether or not to have a baby. You have proven yourself too insane to make a decision for anyone about the life of a child, and i cannot endorse your bull**** with any law.

but feel free to keep on spouting it.
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You support killing a live human being, born out of the womb, that survives a botched abortion...

Killing a live human being is murder, which you support.

How lovely.
 
JayDubya said:
What are you talking about? There is no "funding for unfit mothers who want an abortion" to cut. The taxpayers don't pay for that ****.
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When a women can't afford an abortion, where does she go?


If THAT was funded at all in the first place, the United States would have already busted out in a second Civil War.
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If a women is poor, on welfare, struggling with mental health or substance abuse issues and she walks into a clinic that takes medicaid, she's making the most clear-headed choice of her sad and dysfunctional life.

BUT SHE BETTER LIVE IN ONE OF THE 15 STATES WHERE MEDICAID COVERS ABORTION. Or her drug-addicted baby may get left in a dumpster or die in microwave. Pro-lifers don't like to talk about real world logic and consequences. They cut funding for women who need it the most. Women who are have babies they can't feed or properly care for.

You people make me sick that you think a zygote and a living 3 month old are the same.
 
Grim17 said:
You support killing a live human being, born out of the womb, that survives a botched abortion...

Killing a live human being is murder, which you support.

How lovely.
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When you cut funding to low-income women, that is an unintended consequence. Live babies are killed by unfit mothers.

GOP reps will force a rape victim to have a trans-vaginal probe, but when a pregnant women gets arrested for a drug charge or domestic abuse, will they pay for a social worker to counsel her about considering an abortion?
 
hazlnut said:
When a women can't afford an abortion, where does she go?
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Hopefully to a charity group for prenatal care, instead of trying to figure out a way to pay a hit man. Contract killing should be expensive secondary to the contractor not wanting to face a well-deserved life sentence.

If a women is poor, on welfare, struggling with mental health or substance abuse issues and she walks into a clinic that takes medicaid, she's making the most clear-headed choice of her sad and dysfunctional life.
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Again, the Hyde Amendment prevents federal funds from paying for such abortions. And no, adoption is an option, and that is the "clear-headed choice."

Instead, what your character above is is doing is paying someone to commit homicide for her own selfish benefit. That is more tragic than anything else in anyone's life up to that point. It is someone staring at a moral event horizon and deciding to leap into oblivion.

You people make me sick that you think a zygote and a living 3 month old are the same.
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Funny, I could say the same thing about people who don't support human rights and equality, and want the innocent to die because of restrictive personhood policies. Can, and will. You folks and your lack of humanity make me sick.
 
tererun said:
Yes, we know, Obama kills babies. he goes to people's houses and rips them from pregnant women's uterus. Take a breath beavis, and come up with a real argument. because i missed the years where Obama fought a war on children. It never happened. He has never shown up at a person's house and strangled the life out of their baby. It is a bad argument.
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and you ahole hero Fluke said "Ryan wants women to die on the delivery table"

that worthless POS Fluke is a dirtbag...
 
Grim17 said:
You support killing a live human being, born out of the womb, that survives a botched abortion...

Killing a live human being is murder, which you support.

How lovely.
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According to President Obama, he felt like that bill would have undermined Roe v. Wade. He said he would have fully supported a bill which provides any assistance a person born, even after an induced abortion. There was already a law in place in Illinois which provided assistance to infants.
 
zstep18 said:
According to President Obama, he felt like that bill would have undermined Roe v. Wade. He said he would have fully supported a bill which provides any assistance a person born, even after an induced abortion. There was already a law in place in Illinois which provided assistance to infants.
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That's a load of crap... Read the bills he voted against.
 
JayDubya said:
Hopefully to a charity group for prenatal care, instead of trying to figure out a way to pay a hit man.
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Hyperbole much?

Good god, that is ****ing retarded statement. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you call a doctor a hit man?

A totally idiotic thing to say.



Again, the Hyde Amendment prevents federal funds from paying for such abortions.
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Exactly. So you did know and still pretended not to understand my previous post.



Instead, what your character above is is doing is paying someone to commit homicide for her own selfish benefit.
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A legal medical procedure = "homicide".

Your statements get more moronic and pathetic with each turn.

and deciding to leap into oblivion.
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Kinda like the extreme pro-life does when they use words like 'homicide".





Funny, I could say the same thing about people who don't support human rights and equality, and want the innocent to die because of restrictive personhood policies. Can, and will. You folks and your lack of humanity make me sick.[/QUOTE]
 
tessaesque said:
It did come up in the Illinois state Senate. Obama argued with the bill's author that it would set a dangerous precedent to consider any baby but a full-term baby as having a recognized "right to life" (I'm summarizing, not his exact words, but basic premise).
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That's not the same thing as surviving an abortion and then being denied constitutional rights.
 
Grim17 said:
That's a load of crap... Read the bills he voted against.
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"On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I’ve said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn’t have that"--President Obama
 
hazlnut said:
Hyperbole much?
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None is not much.

Good god, that is ****ing retarded statement. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you call a doctor a hit man?
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How do you expect people to respond to you when you do nonsense like calling hit men "doctors?"

Doctors swear an oath to help the patients in their care... hit men kill for money. An abortionist is certainly not the former, but is definitively the latter.

Exactly. So you did know and still pretended not to understand my previous post.
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Dude, you said conservatives want to cut funding that doesn't currently exist. That still doesn't make sense.

A legal medical procedure = "homicide".

Your statements get more moronic and pathetic with each tun
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Your ignorance of what words mean would not be nearly as pathetic if you didn't try to besmirch others' intellect while you revealed it.
 
Grim17 said:
You support killing a live human being, born out of the womb, that survives a botched abortion...

Killing a live human being is murder, which you support.

How lovely.
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No sane person believes in murdering babies, you don't, I don't and President Obama doesn't. For you to suggest that he has a war against children proves that you are nothing more than a partisan hack and you put politics ahead of the truth.
 
pbrauer said:
No sane person believes in murdering babies, you don't, I don't and President Obama doesn't. For you to suggest that he has a war against children proves that you are nothing more than a partisan hack and you put politics ahead of the truth.
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well guess what...You are wrong.. proof shows us Obama voted to support Infanticide..
 
zstep18 said:
"On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I’ve said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn’t have that"--President Obama
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its proper to provide a link to this sort of quoting..
 
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